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Puppy Package Manager v2.5 Quirks

Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2021 3:31 am
by JASpup

First time this has happened: I click "Do it!" and nothing happens.

I wait at least five minutes from the last attempt, click again and it starts to install. Processing?

It no longer visibly calculates installation space requirements.

I see more package details upon selecting one.

I can't select more than one package to install at a time. Improved?


Re: Puppy Package Manager v2.5 Quirks

Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2021 9:46 am
by bigpup

Are you talking about PPM offered here:
viewtopic.php?p=13209#p13209


Re: Puppy Package Manager v2.5 Quirks

Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2021 5:32 pm
by 666philb

hi JASpup & bigpup,

i also don't like the new PPM and raised an issue on github about it https://github.com/puppylinux-woof-CE/w ... ssues/2186

i rolled back to the last good version in both bionicpup64 & fossapup64 and have recently uploaded a pet of the older version to ibiblio http://distro.ibiblio.org/puppylinux/pe ... -2.1.2.pet

i've not tested the above .pet and it may not be complete ..... test and see :)


Re: Puppy Package Manager v2.5 Quirks

Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2021 5:33 pm
by JASpup

Link version is older on a 64 system.

I'm wrestling 2.5, 32bit.

Kudos 666.

Don't fix not broken.

@peebee


Re: Puppy Package Manager v2.5 Quirks

Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2021 5:40 pm
by 666philb

the PPM is noarch .... meaning that it will run on both 32 & 64bit


Re: Puppy Package Manager v2.5 Quirks

Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2021 5:46 pm
by JASpup

Good to know. I thought that just meant Slackware, Upup, Debian etc.


Re: Puppy Package Manager v2.5 Quirks

Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2021 12:33 am
by JASpup

If PPM is how .pets are installed, how do we replace it?

Do you install the second (older) copy first, or remove the existing one and install by some other method?


Re: Puppy Package Manager v2.5 Quirks

Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2021 9:09 am
by 666philb

just installing that .pet should work


Re: Puppy Package Manager v2.5 Quirks

Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2021 11:03 am
by JASpup
666philb wrote: Thu Aug 19, 2021 9:09 am

just installing that .pet should work

People spend a lot of time/words on explanations here for various reasons, sometimes I imagine because they want to be helpful and think it's required.

I would just ask: trying to install a newer version of Pale Moon over builtin Pale Moon is almost tormenting without experienced knowledge.

How can we just install a replacement PPM and expect it to run instead of the builtin one without conflict?

I see it's faily sophisticated but wonder if we couldn't just make an .sfs of it, or run it standalone.


Re: Puppy Package Manager v2.5 Quirks

Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2021 12:02 pm
by bigpup

Installing a different version of a builtin program or file.
If you install by using a pet package of the different version.
Make sure to update the save.
Boot now using this updated save.
The version the pet installed should now be the one used.

A SFS package of a program will not load over a builtin program.
The built in program will still be the version that runs.
Well, maybe it would, if the SFS package was correctly put together, to do that.
But the builtin files/programs, need to be a permanent change, not a temp change, that a SFS package may do by loading it.


Re: Puppy Package Manager v2.5 Quirks

Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2021 2:44 pm
by JASpup

@bigpup I think what you're explaining is installing vs. loading .sfs is radically different, whereby installing an app essentially updates it and loading an .sfs doesn't, even if it's just for that session.

I could look for those newer Pale Moon .pet, but if memory serves that is contrary to my (limited) experience.