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Morning, gang.

Following some info from Fred (thanks, Fred!):-

viewtopic.php?p=33521#p33521

.....I've finally realised where I was going wrong with my attempts to make a portable version of Flashpeak's Slimjet browser. I was "over-thinking" it, as usual; the simplest solution is, of course, always the best.

Couple of other slightly modded 'workarounds' for Slimjet's somewhat fussy launch requirements, but nothing yrs truly can't handle. All sorted.

We're currently at v39.0.1.0.

(For those who need to know, I haven't included the WideVine module in the 32-bit build. There's no point, since 32-bit WideVine is now deprecated and no longer functional. Anything that needs DRM decoding isn't going to run here. Sign o' the times, I'm sorry to say.)

Fear not! YouTube runs as well as it ever did..... At least Flashpeak have managed to get a 32-bit, Chromium 90-based build running. That's more than you can say for SRWare of Germany, whose 32-bit "legacy" Iron download is now 'pinned' at v88.....

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As with my other, recent portable builds, you have the ability to add a MenuEntry to launch the portable from wherever you've located it. The "MenuReadMe" explains how it works.

Usual instructions. Download; unzip; move the portable's directory wherever you like. Then, click to enter, followed by clicking on the appropriate 'LAUNCH' script.....the "LaunchReadMe" will explain which one is required for your use-case. Add a MenuEntry IF you want one.

For anyone who would like to try them out, both arches will always be found here:-

https://mega.nz/folder/yaRhwICQ#qODo0dx4DTpXMn24gocIiw

Choose the one you require. See what ya think. Enjoy!

Mike.

@mikewalsh

I tried the 32 bit version under Bionicpup32. It works remarkably well! Thank you!

BologneChe wrote: ↑Tue Aug 10, 2021 1:16 am

@mikewalsh

I tried the 32 bit version under Bionicpup32. It works remarkably well! Thank you!

You're very welcome, mate. Enjoy....

Mike.

mikewalsh wrote: ↑Tue Aug 10, 2021 1:55 am

BologneChe wrote: ↑Tue Aug 10, 2021 1:16 am

@mikewalsh

I tried the 32 bit version under Bionicpup32. It works remarkably well! Thank you!

You're very welcome! Enjoy....

Mike.

Hi @mikewalsh,

thank you for your efforts,

the 64-bit build download on mega.nz is only of 1 MB size ...

peace

@one :-

Sorry about that; I really don't know what happened there. This was uploaded in the background using the MEGA desktop sync client; usually it seems to work pretty well, but I'm still quite new to MEGA.....still getting used to 'em!

It should be there now.

Mike.

Thanks MIKE!

This browser, though not ungoogled, is fantastic! It's fast and full featured, and has solved a problem I've been working on as of yesterday, that being finding a fast and efficient way to convert web pages to pdf in a printer-friendly format. This browser has a 'save to pdf' option that creates a no nonsense printer-friendly pdf of html pages. So this portable is very timely for me. I was opening pages in librewolf, and then printing to pdf using CUPS, but the pages are not very well formated, and text gets covered, images cut in half from page to page. This browser takes care of that, all built in.

I love your work, I've experienced a lot great benefits this year.

~geo

@geo_c :-

Mmm..! Glad you like it.

TBH, I'd forgotten all about the 'Save to PDF' thing. It's summat close to 3 years since I last used Slimmie regularly. I started playing around with other Chromium-based 'clones', and Slimjet releases were being awkward at that time, so it kinda got dropped in favour of other stuff.

I'd got the building of most of the portable 'clones' down pat, but Slimjet still evaded conversion. It was only when I spotted Fred's reply to gilles the other day that I finally saw what was causing the issue for us here in Puppyland.....a wee snippet of Flashpeak's own custom code that was really throwing a spanner in the works.

As always, because it's really intended for mainstream, multi-user distros where everybody runs as a "normal user"..!

This is coming to you from the 32-bit Slimjet-portable, running in a Xenial 'chroot', under Slacko 5.6.0 on a 2GB SD card in an SD-to-USB adapter.....my own custom Slacko 5.6.0, rebuilt to use the k4.1.48 kernel from radky's DPup 'Stretch', along with upgrading the glibc from the original 2.15 to 2.20. (The kernel swap was necessary to get audio working; at the time when the default k3.10.5 kernel was released, this audio chip didn't even exist in some engineer's imagination, let alone in actual silicon!)

Only in Puppy could you contemplate such a crazy combination, AND expect to get away with it for daily use! But I suspect I'm preaching to the converted here, aren't I?

Mike.

Yeah, preaching to the choir here. That library stuff is all above my pay grade. I'm glad there are people like you who have the knowledge base to figure it out.

Slimjet has a lot of cool things going on: Save as pdf, Save as screenshot, Capture screenshot of selected area, Record video from current tab. Don't know if I remember all that ever being in one browser, or any of it really.

~geo

Hi
Strange : If I choose to download the 32 bits, I download both the 32 and the 64 bits in only one "slimjet.zip". When downloading I see it is 218,6 Mo instead of 103,7 Mo. It is exactly the 32 bit + the 64 bits.
Well, I extract the "slimjet.zip", and I get "slimjet.zip.extrait". Clic and I have "slimjet" Clic and I have "32 bit" and "64 bit", clic 32 bit and I have "Slimjet-portable32.tar.gz" and "slimjet-portable32.tar.gz.md5" So I extract the Slimjet-portable32.tar.gz.
And finaly, I have the following messages in UExtract :

tar : Exiting with failure status due to previous errors

Echec de l'extraction (which means : fail to extract)

Fichiers ratés (failed files) : > /mnt/ (path to) /Slimjet-portable32.tar.gz

i did it many times, and it is always the same thing

What is wrong ?

@gilles :-

gilles wrote: ↑Wed Aug 11, 2021 10:37 am

Hi
Strange : If I choose to download the 32 bits, I download both the 32 and the 64 bits in only one "slimjet.zip". When downloading I see it is 218,6 Mo instead of 103,7 Mo. It is exactly the 32 bit + the 64 bits.
Well, I extract the "slimjet.zip", and I get "slimjet.zip.extrait". Clic and I have "slimjet" Clic and I have "32 bit" and "64 bit", clic 32 bit and I have "Slimjet-portable32.tar.gz" and "slimjet-portable32.tar.gz.md5" So I extract the Slimjet-portable32.tar.gz.
And finaly, I have the following messages in UExtract :

tar : Exiting with failure status due to previous errors

Echec de l'extraction (which means : fail to extract)

Fichiers ratés (failed files) : > /mnt/ (path to) /Slimjet-portable32.tar.gz

i did it many times, and it is always the same thing

What is wrong ?

I suspect you're trying to download the "32-bit" directory, aren't you? You're not supposed to do that..! You should never, EVER try to download more than one file at a time from ANY cloud host, because they will ALWAYS zip the files before downloading them.....and then you always get problems.

It's my fault. I didn't give the usual usage instructions that I normally post....

You double-click to enter "32-bit". You then right-click on 'Slimjet-portable32.tar.gz', and choose 'Download'. Then do the same again, separately, for the MD5 checksum file. See if that works for you.

I'll amend the first post.

Mike.

@mikewalsh
Hi Mike,
Thanks for this. Just downloaded both the 32 and 64 bit versions. So far only tried the 32 bit version on Dpup Stretch and not spent much time with it but at least it's another up to date 32 bit browser which seems to be working. I'll give it a better test when I get a bit more time.

Regards,

Ken.

@keniv :-

Ah, you're very welcome, Ken. Hopefully, it can help fill the gap Iron's left behind, since SRWare seem to have given up on 32-bit.....though I wouldn't like to say how long Flashpeak will keep it going for.

Enjoy it while ye may!

Mike.

Hello,
This slimjet portable works fine with the computer I always use at home, with xenial 32. I keep this web brower in this computer.
But it is imposible to install it on the very little netbook (with bionic 32) I use only when I am traveling.
I solved the problem by installing slimjet-27.07.0-i386 which works fine with this old little netbook.
Thank you

Hello.

I've downloaded this slimjet portable 32bit but it doesn't start on Slacko 7.0

# ./LAUNCH 
/mnt/sda3/x86/Slimjet-portable32/slimjet/flashpeak-slimjet: error while loading shared libraries: libwayland-client.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
# 

I then downloaded the 32bit Zip Package(tar.xz) for other linux distributions from https://www.slimjet.com/en/dlpage.php, commented this exit_if_root lines in flashpeak-slimjet and launched it from terminal with the --no-sandbox option. Posting from it now.

Also i tried 'my install' in FocalPup32 and it also works.

Though it has nothing to do with your portable version i wonder why the 64bit slimjet can be run as spot (at least on Slacko64 7.0) but not the 32bit.

@HerrBert :-

Hm. Odd... Even more curious, when you consider that the zip package "for other distributions" which you downloaded is the exact same one I used to build the 'portable'..!

(5 minutes later....)

Ah, I know why. The 32-bit 'portable' has some "extras" added to the /slimjet/lib directory.....NSS & GTK3 stuff, mostly. 99% of the time, I run this in a Xenialpup 'chroot'. Because Xenial includes

libwayland-client.so.0

.....by default - along with a bunch of other "libwayland"-related dependencies - I never get this error come up. Obviously, one of the additions expects libwayland-client to be present on the system.....and in Slacko 7.0 it's not there OOTB.

It's more than likely related to the included GTK-3.0 stuff which I've "built-in" to the portable. I suspect it needs upgrading, since the versions of libgdk-3.0/libgtk-3.0 in use here are Tahrpup-era...!

(A lot of this dates back to the time when I first built the chrooted Iron browser package we ended up using with Darry's 431 "Phoenix". That was based on Tahrpup for the chroot environment, and although that's since been upgraded to Xenial-based instead, I've basically modified the Iron chroot package to run Slimjet, too.)

Mike.

Hello.

I make an sfs from the official .deb package and use it. Nothing is added to the original.
Slimjet 31.0.x cannot be run on Tahrpup 32bit and Xenialpup 32bit without --no-sandbox option.

64bit version of Slimjet can be run as spot without --no-sandbox option.

So I start 32bit version of Slimjet with the following command:
# run-as-spot env GTK_IM_MODULE="xim" flashpeak-slimjet --no-sandbox
(env GTK_IM_MODULE="xim" is only necessary when you input 2-byte characters such as Japanese.)

I do not know the cause, but I am afraid it is getting more difficult to run Chromium-based browsers in the 32bit environment.
They stopped developing 32bit version of Iron.
It seems that they stopped developing 32bit version of Vivaldi.
32bit version of Slimjet now behaves differently from before ...

hi,
i'm running precise puppy 5.7.1 --32 bit--
when i try slimjet32 ''launch'' doesn't
do anything. when i enter ''slimjet'' in a
console i'm told that ''libatk-bridge-2.0.so.0''
is missing. i've had a hard look for it, without
finding it, obviously. any help welcome.
cheers, mm

mmmrr wrote: ↑Sat Aug 28, 2021 3:47 am

hi,
i'm running precise puppy 5.7.1 --32 bit--
when i try slimjet32 ''launch'' doesn't
do anything. when i enter ''slimjet'' in a
console i'm told that ''libatk-bridge-2.0.so.0''
is missing. i've had a hard look for it, without
finding it, obviously. any help welcome.
cheers, mm

The only recent browser that works with Slacko 5.7 is Palemoon 29.1.1 (32 bit).
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/ ... 2E931cj9lz

thanks, bologneche

i've been running palemoon 28.13.0 for several weeks,
since i made a full install of precise571-32bit. it crashes
on youtube or other 'movie' content, except when that
content is in the context of a newspaper website.

for several months i ran precise571-32- as a frugal install
with palemoon 28.04. xx as browser. no problem with youtube
or movies.

both versions of palemoon said/say that no upgrades
are available.

cheers, mm

@mmmrr :-

mmmrr wrote: ↑Sat Aug 28, 2021 5:11 am

thanks, bologneche

i've been running palemoon 28.13.0 for several weeks,
since i made a full install of precise571-32bit. it crashes
on youtube or other 'movie' content, except when that
content is in the context of a newspaper website.

for several months i ran precise571-32- as a frugal install
with palemoon 28.04. xx as browser. no problem with youtube
or movies.

both versions of palemoon said/say that no upgrades
are available.

cheers, mm

No upgrades are available for the simple reason that Moonchild Productions have quit building them; like everybody else, they've gone 64-bit only. There ARE 'current' 32-bit builds still available, but only because these have been compiled, packaged & supplied by a third-party developer.

Although I'm not actively building the PaleMoon packages any longer, I've got a couple of 32-bit Pale Moon 'portables' built around the current v29.4.02. You can find them here:-

https://mega.nz/folder/vWxRmCQa#MRY_sTdVzBJ5-_NMKlTpBg

Try the ordinary one first. That may not work; if so, give the 'glibc-tweaked' version a try. Precise is getting very "long in the tooth" by now, and most of its system dependencies are way too old to keep modern browsers happy any longer.

Let us know what happens, please...

Mike.

I use Palemoon version 28.14.2 with Precise, very good. I think up to version 28.16 works with the standard Precise 571 out of the box without any system upgrades at all.

thanks mikew,
i'll give that version a try...
i installed yr gtk3 lib packages
a few weeks ago. the hardware
is 64bit but 32bit precise was
the puppy which suited me best,
out of the box, including booting
through the imac firmware.
thanks for yr efforts for these many
years.
big cheers, mm

thanks amethyst,

good to know about palemoon28.14.2
where did you get it?
what is standard precise572?

cheers, mm

hi mikew,

i downloaded the untweaked version.
unpacked it to a folder/directory
named palemoon32 and script LAUNCH
clicked LAUNCH -- flashing rectangle
indicating action but nothing hhappened.

opened palemoon32 looking for a gearwheel
named palemoon to click on, which is how
i start the version of palemoon i'm using.

no such gearwheel in this palemoon32.

open terminal in palemoon32,

# palemoon
bash: palemoon: command not found
# Palemoon
bash: Palemoon: command not found
# palemoon32
bash: palemoon32: command not found

move up directory, enter LAUNCH,
same result.

download md5 file from yr stash,
remove .md5 suffix.
xarchiver accepts renamed file but
adds a small symbol like a thick 'x'
at the end of the name.

i don't have the energy to describe
the wierdness with which xarchiver
declines to open the md5 file but i
will if it is wanted.

after posting this i'll try the tweaked
version. patience is the prime requirement
for computerland. puppy is the operating
system which requires least, rewards most.

cheers, mm

mmmrr wrote: ↑Sat Aug 28, 2021 1:09 pm

thanks amethyst,

good to know about palemoon28.14.2
where did you get it?
what is standard precise572?

cheers, mm

http://archive.palemoon.org/palemoon/28.x/
Try version 28.16, I don't see the one that I'm using (28.14.2) there. I think 28.16 was the last version to work out of the box with the official release of Precise 5.7.1 without having to do any system upgrades. Unzip the tarball to a location of your choice and run the executable.

hi mikew

downloaded tweaked version of palemoon32.
opened fast with click on LAUNCH.
fast on text sites, like this one,
immediate crash on streaming video.

would not restart off LAUNCH, message
saying profile missing.

i had an already installed portable
palemoon so i started it off click on
pale moon gearwheel . this time it
started the version which had just crashed.
i could tell by the tabs it opened with.

i was starting to get confused. i went
back to the tweaked folder/directory, saw
warning orange triangle where the profile
used to be, saw a script icon named plmn,
clicked it, that started palemoon....

hi amethyst

thanks for the info. i will try it later when my
present confusion is less present, i found my way
to the old forum,and got my avatar and location.
i started there in march, 2009, after several years
of puppydom. rip john murga. not only did he host
that forum, he made the fastest puppy ever. in just
under 50mb: it would fit on a mini cd !!

cheers, mm

i went to the palemoon download page
but the versions which i tried all crash
on streaming video while working fine
on everything else i look at.

i'm wondering about a standalone video player
as a workaround.
also thinking about a current 64bit puppy.

thamks for all the help. mm

mmmrr wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 5:37 pm

i went to the palemoon download page
but the versions which i tried all crash
on streaming video while working fine
on everything else i look at.

i'm wondering about a standalone video player
as a workaround.
also thinking about a current 64bit puppy.

thamks for all the help. mm

Do you have a low specs computer? Web pages like that of youtube are very resource hungry. I normally play youtube via an embedded player using a different search engine like Duckduckgo.

hi,
the target computer is a
dual core imac, about ten
years old. i am not at home
so i can't give numbers. not
low-spec.

the installed mac system
worked fine but it wasn't puppy.
dual booting required coaxing
each boot so i ditched the mac
for a puppy that booted out of
the box ...off the cd/dvd and
ran the way i was used to.

that was precise571

please tell me more about how
you set to watch streaming video.
i looked earlier today in the package
manager under multimedia .

cheers, mm

edit: specifically, what embedded player
and how do you attach it to duckduckgo?

thanks

mmmrr wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 8:04 pm

hi,
the target computer is a
dual core imac, about ten
years old. i am not at home
so i can't give numbers. not
low-spec.

the installed mac system
worked fine but it wasn't puppy.
dual booting required coaxing
each boot so i ditched the mac
for a puppy that booted out of
the box ...off the cd/dvd and
ran the way i was used to.

that was precise571

please tell me more about how
you set to watch streaming video.
i looked earlier today in the package
manager under multimedia .

cheers, mm

edit: specifically, what embedded player
and how do you attach it to duckduckgo?

thanks

No, you don't need to install anything else. Just use another search engine like Duckduckgo or Bing. Search for your video eg: youtube rod stewart. You will get a list of all the results, then click the videos tab and click the video you want to play. This works for youtube don't know if videos from other sites will work. BTW - you don't seem to have such an old machine. You should try a new Puppy which should be able to run all browsers without any upgrades and/or other potential problems.