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Anyone tried the Brave browser?

Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2021 10:53 pm
by J_D_

Brave is a new web browser I just found. There are some downloads for linux but I did not see one for Puppy. Anyone try it yet ?


Re: Brave

Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2021 11:03 pm
by sonny
J_D_ wrote: Tue Jul 06, 2021 10:53 pm

Brave is a new web browser I just found. There are some downloads for linux but I did not see one for Puppy. Anyone try it yet ?

https://github.com/brave/brave-browser/ ... -amd64.zip (116 MB)


Re: Brave

Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2021 12:57 am
by J_D_

I downloaded it but how do I install it ?


Re: Brave

Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2021 1:11 am
by sonny
J_D_ wrote: Wed Jul 07, 2021 12:57 am

I downloaded it but how do I install it ?

Just download this one instead and double click to install ...

https://github.com/brave/brave-browser/ ... _amd64.deb (82.2 MB)


Re: Brave

Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2021 2:49 am
by J_D_
sonny wrote: Wed Jul 07, 2021 1:11 am
J_D_ wrote: Wed Jul 07, 2021 12:57 am

I downloaded it but how do I install it ?

Just download this one instead and double click to install ...

https://github.com/brave/brave-browser/ ... _amd64.deb

Thank you. I will take Brave for a test drive. :mrgreen:


Re: Brave

Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2021 2:57 am
by sonny
J_D_ wrote: Wed Jul 07, 2021 2:49 am
sonny wrote: Wed Jul 07, 2021 1:11 am
J_D_ wrote: Wed Jul 07, 2021 12:57 am

I downloaded it but how do I install it ?

Just download this one instead and double click to install ...

https://github.com/brave/brave-browser/ ... _amd64.deb

Thank you. I will take Brave for a test drive. :mrgreen:

My pleasure.
On my all computers, Brave browser always feels "lighter" and more responsive ...


Re: Anyone tried the Brave browser?

Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2021 3:00 am
by J_D_

It installed and shows up inthe menu but it does not open. Even set it as default app and it does not work. Am I missing something ?


Re: Anyone tried the Brave browser?

Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2021 3:12 am
by sonny
J_D_ wrote: Wed Jul 07, 2021 3:00 am

It installed and shows up inthe menu but it does not open. Even set it as default app and it does not work. Am I missing something ?

Brave browser needs to be run as spot:

1. Open this as text (right click on this file, then choose Open As Text)
/usr/share/applications/brave-browser.desktop

2. Add
run-as-spot

like this ...
Exec=run-as-spot /opt/brave.com/brave/brave

or wherever your Brave location is


Re: Anyone tried the Brave browser?

Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2021 4:30 am
by J_D_

Could not get it done. Will get back to it tomorrow. THANKS for your help;


Re: Anyone tried the Brave browser?

Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2021 1:59 pm
by HerrBert

On my Slacko64 7.0 there is a symlink /usr/bin/brave-browser-stable -> /opt/brave.com/brave/brave-browser
From the .rpm install files the .desktop file contains three Exec= lines. I have deleted anything after MimeTypes= and edited the Exec= line to
Exec=run-as-spot /usr/bin/brave-browser-stable


Re: Anyone tried the Brave browser?

Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2021 12:10 am
by J_D_

I tried this on Fossapup and Xenial with no success. Even did a new install of Fossapup. Probably doing someting wrong. I will wait a while and try again in the future.


Re: Anyone tried the Brave browser?

Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2021 12:26 am
by sonny
J_D_ wrote: Thu Jul 08, 2021 12:10 am

I tried this on Fossapup and Xenial with no success. Even did a new install of Fossapup. Probably doing someting wrong. I will wait a while and try again in the future.

1. Would you please reopen this as text:

/usr/share/applications/brave-browser.desktop

2. Find and copy a line which starts with
Exec=

3. Paste the line on your reply here ...


Re: Anyone tried the Brave browser?

Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2021 2:23 am
by J_D_

I do not know where to find that, I have searched but not found.


Re: Anyone tried the Brave browser?

Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2021 3:06 am
by sonny
J_D_ wrote: Thu Jul 08, 2021 2:23 am

I do not know where to find that, I have searched but not found.

My Puppy is not on right now but please try to

1. Open your ROX-Filer program
2. On its toolbar, click on the "Up" arrow button
3. Double click on the usr folder
4. Double click on the share folder
5. Double click on the applications folder
6. Right click on "brave-browser.desktop" to open its shortcut menu
7. On the menu, choose Open As Text
8. Find a line that starts with
Exec=
9. Highlight the entire line, copy, then paste it here


Re: Anyone tried the Brave browser?

Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2021 3:27 am
by J_D_

Here you go. =/usr/bin/brave-browser-stable --incognito
I opened that last night. Totally found it a different way. Did not scroll down far enough :( :( . It is the last entry on the page.


Re: Anyone tried the Brave browser?

Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2021 3:32 am
by sonny
J_D_ wrote: Thu Jul 08, 2021 3:27 am

Here you go. =/usr/bin/brave-browser-stable --incognito
I opened that last night. Totally found it a different way. Did not scroll down far enough :( :( . It is the last entry on the page.

Brilliant!

1. Now, edit that line to
Exec=run-as-spot /usr/bin/brave-browser-stable --incognito

2. Save it (it's on the File menu)
3. Try double-clicking on the brave-browser.desktop file you just saved
4. Lemme know how it turns out


Re: Anyone tried the Brave browser?

Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2021 3:52 am
by J_D_

This is what I saved. Still not working.
Exec=run-as-spot /usr/bin/brave-browser-stable --incognito


Re: Anyone tried the Brave browser?

Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2021 3:58 am
by sonny
J_D_ wrote: Thu Jul 08, 2021 3:52 am

This is what I saved. Still not working.
Exec=run-as-spot /usr/bin/brave-browser-stable --incognito

What about taking off the "--incognito"?
Don't forget to resave it.


Re: Anyone tried the Brave browser?

Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2021 4:05 am
by J_D_

Already tried that. Just tried again. no luck. Since I did a fresh install of Fossapup, Firefox is working well so this is not that important. I am willing to keep trying though.


Re: Anyone tried the Brave browser?

Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2021 4:10 am
by sonny
J_D_ wrote: Thu Jul 08, 2021 4:05 am

Already tried that. Just tried again. no luck. Since I did a fresh install of Fossapup, Firefox is working well so this is not that important. I am willing to keep trying though.

Wait, lemme open my Ventoy real quick ...
As far as I remember Brave browser's default folder is saved in /opt.
I'll get back to you shortly.


Re: Anyone tried the Brave browser?

Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2021 4:21 am
by sonny

Got it!

There are 3 (three) EXEC lines in the .desktop file (under Desktop Entry, Desktop Action new-window, and Desktop Action new-private-window)

Just add run-as-spot to each of those lines!


Re: Anyone tried the Brave browser?

Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2021 7:52 am
by HerrBert
J_D_ wrote: Thu Jul 08, 2021 3:52 am

This is what I saved. Still not working.
Exec=run-as-spot /usr/bin/brave-browser-stable --incognito

As i mentioned before, this is one of the three Exec= entries.

If you want to try, this is the content of a basic .desktop file:

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[Desktop Entry]
Version=1.0
Name=Brave Web Browser
Exec=run-as-spot /usr/bin/brave-browser-stable
StartupNotify=true
Terminal=false
Icon=brave-browser
Type=Application
Categories=WebBrowser
MimeType=application/pdf;application/rdf+xml;application/rss+xml;application/xhtml+xml;application/xhtml_xml;application/xml;image/gif;image/jpeg;image/png;image/webp;text/html;text/xml;x-scheme-handler/http;x-scheme-handler/https;x-scheme-handler/ipfs;x-scheme-handler/ipns;

Also keep in mind that you have to rebuild the menu after saving your changes.

In a terminal run:

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fixmenus
jwm -reload

Re: Anyone tried the Brave browser?

Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2021 9:52 am
by mikewalsh
sonny wrote: Thu Jul 08, 2021 4:21 am

Got it!

There are 3 (three) EXEC lines in the .desktop file (under Desktop Entry, Desktop Action new-window, and Desktop Action new-private-window)

Just add run-as-spot to each of those lines!

Three-quarters of the stuff that comes with a standard desktop entry is not needed.....not here in Puppyland, anyway.

Remember, this is a standard entry developed by the folks at FreeDesktop.org. These guys oversee the way in which free & opensource software integrates into Linux desktop environments......meaning that one .desktop Menu entry has to be able to cover ALL possible use-cases/combos of window-manager/file-manager/display-server. Add to that fact the desire to provide language localization stuff to as many people as possible, and it's easy to see why some Menu entries soon run into several hundred lines.....

This is what I use (just an example):-

Code: Select all

[Desktop Entry]
Encoding=UTF-8
Name=Audacity
Comment=Edit/record audio files...
Exec=audacity
Icon=audacity
Type=Application
Terminal=false
Categories=X-Multimedia

Nine basic lines, that cover everything essential which Puppy needs for a menu Entry to function.

Standard-spec fields ("keys") listed here:-

https://specifications.freedesktop.org/ ... 01s06.html

Mike. ;)


Re: Anyone tried the Brave browser?

Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2021 10:51 am
by bigpup

mikewalsh,

That looks like a: how to make a menu entry.
Should be a topic, offered in the how to section, of this forum.

How about making one :idea:


Re: Anyone tried the Brave browser?

Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2021 12:43 pm
by mikewalsh
bigpup wrote: Thu Jul 08, 2021 10:51 am

mikewalsh,

That looks like a: how to make a menu entry.
Should be a topic, offered in the how to section, of this forum.

How about making one :idea:

Not a bad idea, mate. I'll see what I can do.

Mike. ;)


Re: Anyone tried the Brave browser?

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2021 11:49 pm
by JASpup

I think its creators are crypto hounds. 8-)

Brave is my favorite browser functionally.


Re: Anyone tried the Brave browser?

Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2021 4:04 pm
by vin

BTW, I was thinking of using Brave browser.
But not sure whether they have really stripped off google-specific code (similar to the ungoogled chromium).
Does anybody have any idea regarding this?
Thanks.


Re: Anyone tried the Brave browser?

Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2021 4:52 pm
by mikeslr

"I was thinking of using Brave browser". See my post here, viewtopic.php?p=18254#p18254 and rufwoof's two posts below.
I'd change my suggestion, replacing adguard with Ublock-origins. The former is now also run by an ad-agency and adguard slows browsing responsiveness much more than Ublock-origins.
Before using Brave browser read this post, https://coingape.com/brave-browser-apol ... ral-links/. Also keep in mind that an apology doesn't mean it won't do it in the future. When making money is an objective several inter-related conditions appear: (1) A promise is a commitment to do it or pay damages; (2) How do you prove damages and (3) whose going to pay attorneys to sue publishers of web-browser? (4) Catch me if you can.


Re: Anyone tried the Brave browser?

Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2021 4:55 am
by Phoenix
sonny wrote: Wed Jul 07, 2021 3:12 am
J_D_ wrote: Wed Jul 07, 2021 3:00 am

It installed and shows up inthe menu but it does not open. Even set it as default app and it does not work. Am I missing something ?

Brave browser needs to be run as spot:

1. Open this as text (right click on this file, then choose Open As Text)
/usr/share/applications/brave-browser.desktop

2. Add
run-as-spot

like this ...
Exec=run-as-spot /opt/brave.com/brave/brave

or wherever your Brave location is

Or run with --no-sandbox if you wish..


Re: Anyone tried the Brave browser?

Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2021 5:38 am
by vin
mikeslr wrote: Tue Sep 28, 2021 4:52 pm

"I was thinking of using Brave browser". See my post here, viewtopic.php?p=18254#p18254 and rufwoof's two posts below.
I'd change my suggestion, replacing adguard with Ublock-origins. The former is now also run by an ad-agency and adguard slows browsing responsiveness much more than Ublock-origins.
Before using Brave browser read this post, https://coingape.com/brave-browser-apol ... ral-links/. Also keep in mind that an apology doesn't mean it won't do it in the future. When making money is an objective several inter-related conditions appear: (1) A promise is a commitment to do it or pay damages; (2) How do you prove damages and (3) whose going to pay attorneys to sue publishers of web-browser? (4) Catch me if you can.

@mikeslr
Thanks for sharing.