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A great utility for checking an external ntfs hd for errors.
Can't boot up my Slacko 6.3.2 Puppy cause of that.
Any ideas?

Hi kuman11

1. There is no full replacement for chkdsk in Linux.
2. ntfsfix - It only repairs some fundamental NTFS inconsistencies.
See manual
Use, for example, BionicPup32 8.0 live - it's build-in.
3. Ultimate Boot CD - some tools.
4. Under Linux ntfs-3g ntfsprogs are needed. Maybe some one write more.
5. Write more about your problem - is NTFS volume corrupted, or, maybe, this is corrupted HDD problem?

Adam Li

What exactly happens when you try to boot?
You do what?
You see what?

Some typical corruptions of the NTFS partitions when using a Linux goes back decades. It has always REQUIRED that a user boots a Windows to run the utility(s) to correct.

In the past 2 decades, I have not found a PE or a Windows ISO with the expressed intent to correct potentially corrupt NTFS for Linux users. If anyone knows of something that specifically designed to fix corruptions, I am all ears.

These corruptions can/do occur when running NTFS filesystems in its normal layout on Linux OR running NTFS filesystem in a "compressed" format that MS allows (actually in Linux this can be formatted, too, with -C parm).

I know this does NOT answer the OP's request.

• For his request, my past required me to boot a Windows...run a backup of the NTFS and then run utilities (chkdsk, et.al.) to reset the NTFS on the partition. In some rare cases, I would have to reformat and restore from backup.

• Finally, there have been times when I had mistaken corruption when actually I was having disk failures.

kuman11 wrote: ↑Sat Jul 03, 2021 7:48 am

A great utility for checking an external ntfs hd for errors.
Can't boot up my Slacko 5.7.2 Puppy cause of that.
Any ideas?

Have you tried TestDisk?

https://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk_Download

Hi Clarity

Clarity wrote:

In the past 2 decades, I have not found a PE or a Windows ISO with the expressed intent to correct potentially corrupt NTFS for Linux users. If anyone knows of something that specifically designed to fix corruptions, I am all ears.

From the "era of Windows XP": Microsoft Windows Recovery Console. Windows Vista+ (7, 8, 10) replaced Recovery Console with System Recovery Options.
You can run the chkdsk command(s).

If you have not MS CDs >> Hiren's BootCD 15.2 >> Mini Windows Xp

Are you happy?

Adam Li

Clarity wrote: ↑Sat Jul 03, 2021 4:45 pm

Some typical corruptions of the NTFS partitions when using a Linux goes back decades. It has always REQUIRED that a user boots a Windows to run the utility(s) to correct.

In the past 2 decades, I have not found a PE or a Windows ISO with the expressed intent to correct potentially corrupt NTFS for Linux users. If anyone knows of something that specifically designed to fix corruptions, I am all ears.

These corruptions can/do occur when running NTFS filesystems in its normal layout on Linux OR running NTFS filesystem in a "compressed" format that MS allows (actually in Linux this can be formatted, too, with -C parm).

I know this does NOT answer the OP's request.

• For his request, my past required me to boot a Windows...run a backup of the NTFS and then run utilities (chkdsk, et.al.) to reset the NTFS on the partition. In some rare cases, I would have to reformat and restore from backup.

• Finally, there have been times when I had mistaken corruption when actually I was having disk failures.

In 1997, I managed to do it with SpinRite.
I also won $50 (bet) against an IT manager (who gave me the corrupted HDD).
https://www.grc.com/sr/spinrite.htm

bigpup wrote: ↑Sat Jul 03, 2021 4:11 pm

What exactly happens when you try to boot?
You do what?
You see what?

It seems the file 'grldr' is missing, it said it couldn't find it

kuman11 wrote: ↑Sat Jul 03, 2021 10:20 pm

bigpup wrote: ↑Sat Jul 03, 2021 4:11 pm

What exactly happens when you try to boot?
You do what?
You see what?

It seems the file 'grldr' is missing, it said it couldn't find it

https://ccm.net/forum/affich-39251-booting-grldr

in error

Adam Li wrote: ↑Sat Jul 03, 2021 9:05 am

Hi kuman11

1. There is no full replacement for chkdsk in Linux.
2. ntfsfix - It only repairs some fundamental NTFS inconsistencies.
See manual
Use, for example, BionicPup32 8.0 live - it's build-in.
3. Ultimate Boot CD - some tools.
4. Under Linux ntfs-3g ntfsprogs are needed. Maybe some one write more.
5. Write more about your problem - is NTFS volume corrupted, or, maybe, this is corrupted HDD problem?

Adam Li

I got ntfs-3-edge.zip from GitHub. Which one of the files do I need to run?
I managed to mount the HD, it does it very slow, and it's inconsistent. Did it in Chrome OS, so can I run this utility in it? I unpacked the zip file.
I also copied the Slacko files from it, it seems 'grldr' is still there.
I'll have to fix the ntfs HD [which is Backup Plus] before it's able to boot up the Linux notebook ...

Hi kuman11

What would i do in your place:
1. Download Hiren's BootCD 15.2 (592.5 MB).
Check downloaded file:
Filename Hirens.BootCD.15.2.zip
Filesize 592.5 MB (621283886 bytes)
ISO MD5 7EFC81ADBBD551D56F6021C439C6837C
ZIP MD5 D342BBD6BF7554ABA24A376E41675DBF
2. Make CD (preferred if you have optical drive) or bootable pendrive.
3. Boot Hiren's and go to Mini Windows Xp.
4. Run chkdsk options /f /r. The second one is optional - scanning for bad sectors take a long time.

Cheers
Adam Li

It seems this .zip I d/l is a for Win. Can I run it in Chrome OS as I don't have a running Win at this time?
I also couldn't find the string of the d/loaded utility ...
Thanks

kuman11 wrote:

It seems this .zip I d/l is a for Win. Can I run it in Chrome OS as I don't have a running Win at this time?
I also couldn't find the string of the d/loaded utility ...
Thanks

Not. Inside zip there is ISO for bootable CD/pendrive.

Adam, what utility do I need to use to create the bootable pendrive? The name escapes me.
I also couldn't find the md5 of the downloaded .iso file.

kuman11 wrote:

I also couldn't find the md5 of the downloaded .iso file.

About MD5 on Wikipedia

Adam Li wrote:

Filename Hirens.BootCD.15.2.zip
Filesize 592.5 MB (621283886 bytes)
ISO MD5 7EFC81ADBBD551D56F6021C439C6837C
ZIP MD5 D342BBD6BF7554ABA24A376E41675DBF

MD5SUM (shortly MD5) is plain text file

[md5sum1[two spaces or space and asterix][filename1]
[md5sum2[two spaces or space and asterix][filename2]
for example
D342BBD6BF7554ABA24A376E41675DBF  Hirens.BootCD.15.2.zip

From terminal

# md5sum --help
Usage: md5sum [OPTION]... [FILE]...
Print or check MD5 (128-bit) checksums.

With no FILE, or when FILE is -, read standard input.

  -b, --binary         read in binary mode
  -c, --check          read MD5 sums from the FILEs and check them
      --tag            create a BSD-style checksum
  -t, --text           read in text mode (default)

The following five options are useful only when verifying checksums:
      --ignore-missing  don't fail or report status for missing files
      --quiet          don't print OK for each successfully verified file
      --status         don't output anything, status code shows success
      --strict         exit non-zero for improperly formatted checksum lines
  -w, --warn           warn about improperly formatted checksum lines

      --help     display this help and exit
      --version  output version information and exit

If you named md5sum file "Hirens.BootCD.15.2.zip.md5" and locate this file in the same folder, as downloaded file "Hirens.BootCD.15.2.zip", open terminal in this folder and type or copy

md5sum -c Hirens.BootCD.15.2.zip.md5

next Enter and wait for a while - if all is alright you will see OK.

kuman11 wrote:

Adam, what utility do I need to use to create the bootable pendrive? The name escapes me.

Use search on this Forum (right top corner) - there is hundreds answers.

Edit
Decide on some puppy - Chrome OS never seen on my eyes.

Luckily, I found a utility in Chrome OS. I'll see if it's gonna work.
Thanks

I created a bootable usb with the Hiren's utility then it's not able to boot the linux pc. Chrome also didn't recognize what's on the stick even though I used its own utility …?!

I've forgotten all about the DOS commands so I can use the MS terminal too.
No Linux at this time.

Do you have an optical drive (CD or DVD) or not?

This is one of the reasons I keep my windows xp around. I have file checked (and fixed) my ntfs partitions on numerous occasions booting Windows. I have one big ntfs partition on my hdd on my dual-boot machine and an ntfs partitioned external usb drive.

Adam Li wrote: ↑Tue Jul 06, 2021 8:54 am

Do you have an optical drive (CD or DVD) or not?

I have an external usb dvd, though haven't connected it to the Chrome yet.

amethyst wrote: ↑Tue Jul 06, 2021 9:52 am

This is one of the reasons I keep my windows xp around. I have file checked (and fixed) my ntfs partitions on numerous occasions booting Windows. I have one big ntfs partition on my hdd on my dual-boot machine and an ntfs partitioned external usb drive.

The links are very interesting, I have a blinking screen when I connect my power adapter to the linux notebook.

kuman11 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 06, 2021 10:33 am

Adam Li wrote: ↑Tue Jul 06, 2021 8:54 am

Do you have an optical drive (CD or DVD) or not?

I have an external usb dvd, though haven't connected it to the Chrome yet.
Adam, what I can't get about md5 is, every time I press enter after a MD5 Checksum it creates a different md5 hash. So how can I compare it?

Kuman, the purpose of the MD5SUM (shortly MD5) file is merely to check the integrity of the file you downloaded. Each file will generate a unique MD5 number. If the MD5 number of the file you downloaded is different from that given on the webpage from which you downloaded it you know that you have a bad-download or that somehow it's been corrupted. Don't spend much time worrying about this. Bad downloads are few and far between unless you're downloading from a questionable source: the original publisher of a well-known application can usually be trusted to maintain the integrity of its website. Assume you have a good one unless and until something goes wrong with your attempt to make use of the downloaded file.

Right now your objective is to make use of Hiren's BootCD 15.2 by 'burning' it to a USB-stick. [I assume that you don't have a CD/DVD burner that you can use with ChromeOS; and burning to a USB-Stick is just as easy (maybe easier) anyway].

Download hirens, HBCD_PE_x64.iso, from here, https://www.hirensbootcd.org/download/. AFAIK, ChromeOS is a 64-bit OS. Ask if you need reference to a 32-bit version of Hirens.
The file you'll get is published as an ISO. Earlier/other versions were published as an ISO, packaged within a zip file. This post explains how to unzip a file under ChromeOS, https://www.lifewire.com/how-to-zip-unz ... ok-4799535
This post explains how to use ChromeOS's built-in "Chromebook Recovery Utility" to burn a different OS to a USB-Stick, https://chromeready.com/3742/burn-iso-u ... hromebook/. Short version: rename the ISO to bin, e.g. HBCD_PE_x64.bin. Then, running the Recovery Utility, select HBCD_PE_x64.bin via "Use Local Image".
At least, that's the theory. I don't have a Chromebook/ChromeOS to test.

Thanks Mike!

Mike, I used Adam's link to d/l hirens, yours is invalid, though Recovery Utility created an unrecognizable stick. I used fat32 at first, then formatted it to ntfs. Hirens file is zip not iso fyi
After that I tried to erase the stick in tne Recovery Utility & got this error:

{{"WRITE_TITLE" | translate}}

{{"WRITE_MESSAGE" | translate}}
{{writeImageController.getStageKey() | translate}}. {{writeImageController.percentComplete / 100 | percent}} {{"COMPLETED" | translate}}. {{"HOURS_REMAINING" | translate:writeImageController.hours }} {{"MINUTES_REMAINING" | translate:writeImageController.minutes }} {{"SECONDS_REMAINING" | translate:writeImageController.seconds }}
{{(forwardText || "CONTINUE_BUTTON_TEXT") | translate}}{{(backText || "GO_BACK_BUTTON_TEXT") | translate}}{{"LEARN_MORE_LINK_TEXT" | translate}}

kuman11 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 11, 2021 2:18 am

Mike, I used Adam's link to d/l hirens, yours is invalid [...]
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The link @mikeslr gave to you is OK ...
https://www.hirensbootcd.org/download/

peace

one wrote: ↑Sun Jul 11, 2021 10:42 am

kuman11 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 11, 2021 2:18 am

Mike, I used Adam's link to d/l hirens, yours is invalid [...]
[...]

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The link @mikeslr gave to you is OK ...
https://www.hirensbootcd.org/download/

peace

one, it's not clear whether I have to zip & then unzip the d/l .iso file. I tried to zip it though I don't see the arch.zip in the left menu ...?

kuman11 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 12, 2021 9:12 pm

one wrote: ↑Sun Jul 11, 2021 10:42 am

kuman11 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 11, 2021 2:18 am

Mike, I used Adam's link to d/l hirens, yours is invalid [...]
[...]

translate}}{{"LEARN_MORE_LINK_TEXT" | translate}}

The link @mikeslr gave to you is OK ...
https://www.hirensbootcd.org/download/

peace

one, it's not clear whether I have to zip & then unzip the d/l .iso file. I tried to zip it though I don't see the arch.zip in the left menu ...?

Correction - It appeared in a bit, then I created the stick.
Do I need to backup the ntfs hd first?

one,
I didn't see Mini XP in the unzipped files. Otherwise I see only Win .exe files in the utilities. I need to run them in Chrome OS. U can ask mikeslr if u don't know the way ...