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See blog announcement:

https://bkhome.org/news/202107/easyos-d ... eased.html

And how SeaMonkey 2.53.8 was compiled:

https://bkhome.org/news/202107/seamonke ... eries.html

Seamonkey is still so slow and jerky ... painful

BologneChe wrote: Sat Jul 03, 2021 3:16 am

Seamonkey is still so slow and jerky ... painful

SM is working smoothly for me.

I think that you might have posted before, but what is your video hardware? GPU?

On my Lenovo ideacentre PC, Intel i3-8100 CPU. GPU:

"VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 8th Gen Core Processor Gaussian Mixture Model"

Xorg is using the modesetting driver.

Quick feedback on Dunfell-2.8.4 US version

SeaMonkey 2.53.8 - 20210702095134 looks good on my side.

Using a BIOS box 2.60GHz, 2GB, Intel G41 1920x1080 and Gigabit Ethernet RTL8111
Boot media is a slow USB 3.0 stick.

BarryK wrote: Sat Jul 03, 2021 12:11 pm

BologneChe wrote: Sat Jul 03, 2021 3:16 am

Seamonkey is still so slow and jerky ... painful

SM is working smoothly for me.

I think that you might have posted before, but what is your video hardware? GPU?

On my Lenovo ideacentre PC, Intel i3-8100 CPU. GPU:

"VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 8th Gen Core Processor Gaussian Mixture Model"

Xorg is using the modesetting driver.

Acer Spin 1
Processor : Intel Celeron N3350 - 4 Go RAM
Resolution : 1920x1080
OpenGL renderer : Mesa DRI Intel HD Graphics 500 (APL 2)
VGA compatible controller : Intel HD Graphic 500 (revOb)
Network controller : Qualcomm Atheros QCA9377 - 802.11ac - Wireless
USB 3 install - Kingston DT50 - 16 Go

This is the kind of website where slowness occurs : https://ici.radio-canada.ca/

Just tried that site and there is nothing wrong with it from my end, i'm in australia.

ref: https://ici.radio-canada.ca/

The first problem I was running into was the 'geo tracker' script.

Second problem - as soon as you download audio files the 'Linux system'
becomes overloaded.

I would put the blame on https://ici.radio-canada.ca/; beside the audio
problem everything else works fine.

BologneChe wrote: Sat Jul 03, 2021 8:40 pm

BarryK wrote: Sat Jul 03, 2021 12:11 pm

BologneChe wrote: Sat Jul 03, 2021 3:16 am

Seamonkey is still so slow and jerky ... painful

SM is working smoothly for me.

I think that you might have posted before, but what is your video hardware? GPU?

On my Lenovo ideacentre PC, Intel i3-8100 CPU. GPU:

"VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 8th Gen Core Processor Gaussian Mixture Model"

Xorg is using the modesetting driver.

Acer Spin 1
Processor : Intel Celeron N3350 - 4 Go RAM
Resolution : 1920x1080
OpenGL renderer : Mesa DRI Intel HD Graphics 500 (APL 2)
VGA compatible controller : Intel HD Graphic 500 (revOb)
Network controller : Qualcomm Atheros QCA9377 - 802.11ac - Wireless
USB 3 install - Kingston DT50 - 16 Go

This is the kind of website where slowness occurs : https://ici.radio-canada.ca/

The site seems ok for me also.

The reason I asked about the GPU, is SM and FF default to automatically using video hardware acceleration, if available. I did read somewhere that sometimes this can cause trouble. There is a way to turn it off, can't recall how.

Downloaded Easy OS, and burned it to a USB using Etcher.

Boot process started normally, enter for no password, a few more lines.

Then suddenly my monitor turns off, stays off, and after waiting for awhile I hard powered down my computer. What's happening?

Need info on what the computer is?
Make and model?
Specs if you know them.

Here is some info on installing:
http://distro.ibiblio.org/easyos/amd64/ ... readme.htm

Hundido,

Barry has a tutorial about how to install to a USB
https://easyos.org/install/how-to-write ... drive.html

From your slacko or fossa usb, you might try try the command line method posted just above the Balena link, or the easydd utility mentioned just below it. I am not sure where, but there was a comment about Balena problems in the old forum or maybe on Barrys Blog. You will need a dedicated USB stick for these methods just as Balena does. A frugal install may also be possible along side your slacko or fossa install.

After reading through viewtopic.php?f=2&t=3227, it could well be your monitor setup.

Here is a head scratcher for you. The redshift utility in EasyOs seems to work well for most, but has been problematic for some including myself. It was not until I disabled the one in Easy, and started using the one you found in the above mentioned thread that I have the functionality I am looking for In EasyOs.

Hope you can least get to the desktop though....

@bigpup, it's a custom built computer, but from Pup Sys Info,

AMD Ryzen 7 5800X 8-Core Processor
Socket Designation: AM4
Manufacturer: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.

Pup-SysInfo Hardware Report (Summary), Sun 25 Jul 2021

[quote]Current Time: 06:59:00
System Uptime: 0d 11h 58m
Load Average: 0.10 0.08 0.06
Processes: 295 total, 2 running

▶—— BASE SYSTEM ——◀

PC Manufacturer: Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd.
Product Name: X570 AORUS PRO WIFI

Motherboard Vendor: Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd.
Product Name: X570 AORUS PRO WIFI

BIOS Vendor: American Megatrends Inc.
Version: F32
Release Date: 01/18/2021

AMD Ryzen 7 5800X 8-Core Processor
Min/Max Speed: 2200/4850 MHz
Current Speed of Core 0:2200 MHz, 1:2200 MHz, 2:2200 MHz, 3:2800 MHz, 4:2200 MHz, 5:3800 MHz, 6:2800 MHz, 7:2200 MHz, 8:2200 MHz, 9:2200 MHz, 10:2200 MHz, 11:2200 MHz, 12:2200 MHz, 13:2800 MHz, 14:2200 MHz, 15:2800 MHz
Core Count: 8
Thread Count: 16

Frequency governor   : ondemand
Freq. scaling driver : acpi-cpufreq

itlb_multihit:Not affected
l1tf:Not affected
mds:Not affected
meltdown:Not affected
spec_store_bypass:Mitigation: Speculative Store Bypass disabled via prctl and seccomp
swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization
spectre_v2:Mitigation: Full AMD retpoline, IBPB: conditional, IBRS_FW, STIBP: always-on, RSB filling
srbds:Not affected
tsx_async_abort:Not affected

temp1 (amdgpu) : +52.0 C (high = +NA.0 C, crit = +100.0 C)
temp2 (amdgpu) : +60.0 C (high = +NA.0 C, crit = +110.0 C)
temp3 (amdgpu) : +54.0 C (high = +NA.0 C, crit = +100.0 C)
temp1 (k10temp) : +36.0 C (high = +NA.0 C, crit = +NA.0 C)
temp2 (k10temp) : +36.0 C (high = +NA.0 C, crit = +NA.0 C)

Personal Storage Folder:
 Name: /Puppies/Slacko64-8.2.1/slacko64save
 Total Size: 29G 
 Free Space: 26G 
 Location: partition sdb2

Memory Allocation:
 Total RAM: 64330 MB
 Used RAM: 2883 MB
 Free RAM: 61447 MB
 Buffers: 14 MB
 Cached: 1553 MB
 Total Swap: 62822 MB
 Free Swap: 62822 MB

 Actual Used RAM: 1316 MB  	Used - (buffers + cached)
 Actual Free RAM: 63014 MB	Free + (buffers + cached)

Linux Kernel: 5.10.0 (x86_64)
Kernel Version: #1 SMP Sun May 30 11:13:02 AEST 2021
Build GCC: 10.3.0,

Kernel Command Line:
BOOT_IMAGE=/Puppies/Slacko64-8.2.1/vmlinuz pmedia=usbflash pdrv=5a6718a3-b56a-44d1-8c9a-bde065407828 psubdir=/Puppies/Slacko64-8.2.1 pfix=fsck,fsckp TZ=AKST9AKDT,M3.2.0,M11.1.0

Distro: Slacko64 Puppy 8.2.1
Window Manager: JWM v2.3.7
Desktop Start: xwin jwm

Development:
 Bash: 5.1.8
 Geany: 1.37.1
 Gtkdialog: 0.8.4
 Perl: 5.34.0
 Yad: 0.42.1 (GTK+ 3.24.29)
 --
 busybox: 1.32.1
 dhcpcd: 8.1.9
 Glibc: 2.33
 OpenSSL: 1.1.1k  25 Mar 2021, built on: Fri Mar 26 01:19:57 2021 UTC
 wpa_supplicant: 2.9

Username: root
Language: en_US.UTF-8
Keyboard: us
Timezone: America/Anchorage

Firewall: On (ip_tables active)
Network Interface:  eth0
Wireless Network: No wireless connection
Session Data: Received 20.4 MB, Sent 1.9 MB
Monthly Data: Received 533 MB, Sent 21 MB

Hostname: puppypc4597
Network IP Address: 192.168.30.234
Domain Name Server (DNS): 216.152.176.1
 64.4.226.40
Hardware Address (MAC): B4:2E:99:A2:0C:EC

Boot Partition: sdb2 (Size 29G, Free 26G)
Boot File System: ext3
Boot Media: usbflash

PUPMODE=13
PUPSFS=sdb2,ext3,/Puppies/Slacko64-8.2.1/puppy_slacko64_8.2.1.sfs
PUPSAVE=sdb2,ext3,/Puppies/Slacko64-8.2.1/slacko64save

▶—— DISPLAY ——◀

Display Specifications:
• Monitor VertRefresh: 60.00 times/s
• Screen Dimensions: 1280x720 pixels (337x190 millimeters)
• Screen Depth: 24 bits (planes)

Xorg Startup Log (/var/log/Xorg.0.log):
• Xorg Driver in use: amdgpu
• Loaded Modules: ati dbe dri2 fb fbdevhw glamoregl glx kbd mouse ramdac
• X.Org version: 1.20.11

OpenGL 2D/3D Rendering:
• Direct Rendering: Yes
• Vendor: AMD
• Renderer: AMD Radeon RX 6800 (SIENNA_CICHLID, DRM 3.40.0, 5.10.0, LLVM 12.0.0)
• Version: 4.6 (Compatibility Profile) Mesa 21.1.1

VGA controller [0300]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Navi 21 [Radeon RX 6800/6800 XT / 6900 XT] [1002:73bf] (rev c3)
• Kernel Driver: amdgpu
• Memory Used by Driver: 4648.00 KB
• Path: /lib/modules/5.10.0/kernel/drivers/gpu/drm/amd/amdgpu/amdgpu.ko
• Description: AMD GPU
• Video RAM: 16384M total, 256M 2M prefetchable

▶—— MULTIMEDIA ——◀

Audio device [0403]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Navi 21 HDMI Audio [Radeon RX 6800/6800 XT / 6900 XT] [1002:ab28]
• Kernel Driver: snd_hda_intel
--
Audio device [0403]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Starship/Matisse HD Audio Controller [1022:1487]
• Kernel Driver: snd_hda_intel
• Memory Used: 32.00 KB
• Path: /lib/modules/5.10.0/kernel/sound/pci/hda/snd-hda-intel.ko
• Description: Intel HDA driver

Audio device [0403]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Navi 21 HDMI Audio [Radeon RX 6800/6800 XT / 6900 XT] [1002:ab28]
• Kernel Driver: snd_hda_intel
--
Audio device [0403]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Starship/Matisse HD Audio Controller [1022:1487]
• Kernel Driver: snd_hda_intel
• Memory Used: 32.00 KB
• Path: /lib/modules/5.10.0/kernel/sound/pci/hda/snd-hda-intel.ko
• Description: Intel HDA driver

▶—— NETWORK ——◀

Network controller [0280]: Intel Corporation Wi-Fi 6 AX200 [8086:2723] (rev 1a)
• Kernel Driver: iwlwifi
• Memory Used: 212.00 KB
• Path: /lib/modules/5.10.0/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/intel/iwlwifi/iwlwifi.ko
• Description: Intel(R) Wireless WiFi driver for Linux

Ethernet controller [0200]: Intel Corporation I211 Gigabit Network Connection [8086:1539] (rev 03)
• Kernel Driver: igb
• Memory Used: 172.00 KB
• Path: /lib/modules/5.10.0/kernel/drivers/net/ethernet/intel/igb/igb.ko
• Description: Intel(R) Gigabit Ethernet Network Driver

▶—— INPUT DEVICES ——◀

"HD-Audio Generic Front Headphone"
"HD-Audio Generic Front Mic"
"HD-Audio Generic Line Out CLFE"
"HD-Audio Generic Line Out Front"
"HD-Audio Generic Line Out Surround"
"HD-Audio Generic Line"
"HD-Audio Generic Rear Mic"
"HDA ATI HDMI HDMI/DP,pcm=10"
"HDA ATI HDMI HDMI/DP,pcm=11"
"HDA ATI HDMI HDMI/DP,pcm=3"
"HDA ATI HDMI HDMI/DP,pcm=7"
"HDA ATI HDMI HDMI/DP,pcm=8"
"HDA ATI HDMI HDMI/DP,pcm=9"
"HID 0566:3107 Consumer Control"
"HID 0566:3107 System Control"
"HID 0566:3107"
"Microsoft  Microsoft Basic Optical Mouse v2.0 "
"Power Button"  

▶—— Video ——◀

Display Specifications:
• Monitor VertRefresh: 60.00 times/s
• Screen Dimensions: 1280x720 pixels (337x190 millimeters)
• Screen Depth: 24 bits (planes)

Xorg Startup Log (/var/log/Xorg.0.log):
• Xorg Driver in use: amdgpu
• Loaded Modules: ati dbe dri2 fb fbdevhw glamoregl glx kbd mouse ramdac
• X.Org version: 1.20.11

OpenGL 2D/3D Rendering:
• Direct Rendering: Yes
• Vendor: AMD
• Renderer: AMD Radeon RX 6800 (SIENNA_CICHLID, DRM 3.40.0, 5.10.0, LLVM 12.0.0)
• Version: 4.6 (Compatibility Profile) Mesa 21.1.1

VGA controller [0300]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Navi 21 [Radeon RX 6800/6800 XT / 6900 XT] [1002:73bf] (rev c3)
• Kernel Driver: amdgpu
• Memory Used by Driver: 4648.00 KB
• Path: /lib/modules/5.10.0/kernel/drivers/gpu/drm/amd/amdgpu/amdgpu.ko
• Description: AMD GPU
• Video RAM: 16384M total, 256M 2M prefetchable

  Video-Info 1.5.1 - Sun 25 Jul 2021 on Slacko64 Puppy 8.2.1 - Linux 5.10.0 x86_64
   
  Chip description:
    0c:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Navi 21 [Radeon RX 6800/6800 XT / 6900 XT] (rev c3)  
   
  X Server: Xorg  Driver used: amdgpu
  X.Org version: 1.20.11
    dimensions:    1280x720 pixels (337x190 millimeters)
    depth of root window:    24 planes 
[/quote]

Is that the right information on what my computer is?  Is there anything that would be useful that I missed?  

I reset the resolution/dimensions to be more comfortable for my vision that the 1920xwhatever it was.

@williwaw , easy OS was actually the first distro I ever installed as I began the hobby of distro hopping. It worked on an old Lenovo, and a lot of other distros didn't. I was glad I tried it first because having such an easy success hooked me.

I tried two different images last week and this week. It keeps doing that. I used balena. I've installed easy on the hard drive of two other older computers, so I'm pretty sure it's something with my computer not playing nice with it somehow.

The first time I had this problem, I thought, I'll just go with what works.

And then I learned BarryK was compiling packages from source through OE in Dunfells, and I thought, that's so cool. I have to figure this out.

hundido wrote: Sun Jul 25, 2021 7:54 am

I'm pretty sure it's something with my computer not playing nice with it somehow.

seems like you have been having your share of issues with the new computer, but just eliminating possible sources of error one by one....

Does your computer work well otherwise with most distros? the newer monitor being the only trouble?

@williwaw Kubuntu worked great until it didn't. All Puppies I've tried have worked great except for the redshift in all but Slacko64-8.2.1, and the bugs in 8.2.1, Redshift is such an important feature for my eyes, it's a make or break issue for me.

A friend almost convinced me to install mint, but its redshift was simplified and I couldn't figure out how to turn it to always on. Deal breaker.

The monitor works great, too, unless it's the reason redshift won't work.

I don't know why easy OS partially boots, and then the monitor turns off, the tower stays on, and I can't make anything happen except hard powering off the computer.

hundido wrote: Mon Jul 26, 2021 4:42 am

and then the monitor turns off, the tower stays on, and I can't make anything happen except hard powering off the computer.

turns off? not just goes black, but acts like it is smarter than us and just shuts down. lol maybe thats a good thing so you dont break it.

So I have a clue:

I decided to try Tinycore, and used the Fedora computer and etcher to burn the iso image to one of my usbs. All of the desktops boot except JWM, which behaves in the exact same way as easy os.

I looked up what monitor I got. It's a

ASUS VA27EHE 27” Eye Care Monitor Full HD (1920 x 1080) IPS 75Hz Adaptive-Sync HDMI D-Sub Frameless

It's brand new, delivered in May. It was a splurge for my vision, and has a built in warm color temperature that helps, but not as much as redshift.

@williwaw , yeah, I know the tower is on because I can see the fan spinning. So the fan keeps spinning, and the monitor turns itself off, and then knowing I'm stuck there, I just hard power off the computer and boot back into slacko 8.2.1

What hardware is providing the graphics to the monitor??

@bigpup , how do I find the answer to that on sys-info or terminal or something? A friend told me I have some kind of graphics card, I don't know what it is.

Pup-Sysinfo->Devices->Display

?

▶—— Video ——◀

Display Specifications:
• Monitor VertRefresh: 60.00 times/s
• Screen Dimensions: 1280x720 pixels (337x190 millimeters)
• Screen Depth: 24 bits (planes)

Xorg Startup Log (/var/log/Xorg.0.log):
• Xorg Driver in use: amdgpu
• Loaded Modules: ati dbe dri2 fb fbdevhw glamoregl glx kbd mouse ramdac
• X.Org version: 1.20.11

OpenGL 2D/3D Rendering:
• Direct Rendering: Yes
• Vendor: AMD
• Renderer: AMD Radeon RX 6800 (SIENNA_CICHLID, DRM 3.40.0, 5.10.0, LLVM 12.0.0)
• Version: 4.6 (Compatibility Profile) Mesa 21.1.1

VGA controller [0300]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Navi 21 [Radeon RX 6800/6800 XT / 6900 XT] [1002:73bf] (rev c3)
• Kernel Driver: amdgpu
• Memory Used by Driver: 4648.00 KB
• Path: /lib/modules/5.10.0/kernel/drivers/gpu/drm/amd/amdgpu/amdgpu.ko
• Description: AMD GPU
• Video RAM: 16384M total, 256M 2M prefetchable

I changed the resolution from the 1920xwhatever to the 1280x720 to make everything bigger.