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hi all,
tried bionic puppy 32bit on an Intel Pentium III from Gateway model D810 desktop,
512MB ram, VGA ... installation seemed like it was going to work ok,
all daemons started ok,

... then it switched to a dark screen, and zap ... nothing

sounds like it was searching for a video card ?

i tried other versions of linux 32 bit apps, they boot ok, no problem,
graphics are a bit chunky (800x600?) but ok ...

any hints as to other puppies to try ?

Whew, a P III??? Ok, that old CPU is going to be a challenge, but you might find one of the older Slacko Puppies
satisfactory, in regards to most things...web browsing will be a challenge due to limited RAM and lack of SSE.
Try downloading Slacko 6.3.2 from here : http://slacko.eezy.xyz/index.php
Wiz

Wiz57 wrote: Thu Jun 24, 2021 9:12 pm

Whew, a P III??? Ok, that old CPU is going to be a challenge, but you might find one of the older Slacko Puppies
satisfactory, in regards to most things...web browsing will be a challenge due to limited RAM and lack of SSE.
Try downloading Slacko 6.3.2 from here : http://slacko.eezy.xyz/index.php
Wiz

thx Wiz,
puppy shell # comes up ok
xview won't start, loads for a while,
black screen, no action

any hints ? it says there is a 'graphics wizard'
but can't find it ... looks like xview can't
find the graphics adapter drivers or finds something
that doesn't work

PIII has SSE ...it's 'only' 20 yrs old ...

Hi,

Sometime ago I made a Bionic Pup with a retro series 3 kernel try this:
https://archive.org/details/bionicpup32 ... .138nonpae

As above, an older pup is possibly better suited, Wary comes to mind....

But, if you boot to a prompt, you could run

xorgwizard

to choose your video settings

If you can get to running xorgwizard.
Select vesa for the driver to use.

Could try Precise light
viewtopic.php?f=33&t=94

darry19662018 wrote: Fri Jun 25, 2021 5:54 am

Hi,

Sometime ago I made a Bionic Pup with a retro series 3 kernel try this:
https://archive.org/details/bionicpup32 ... .138nonpae

I did not know this version. I will try shortly. Sounds interesting to me!

Just my own unofficial version for people such as your self with retro hardware.

Welll.....

A PIII does have SSEs, so browsing will be possible, though not perhaps terribly brilliant. We do know of one SSE-only browser - Pale Moon 27.9.4 - though I doubt YouTube will work. Should be OK for general browsing though.

@darry19662018 :-

Darren, your 4.3.1 "Phoenix" re-spin would run the SSE-only Pale Moon, I think? Might that not be a better fit for this machine?

I seem to recall we found no end of stuff that would work with it, after digging around in Ally's archives for a while.....

Mike.

Yep good thought Mike - Details here: https://archive.org/details/pup4.311gli ... 794sserev1

https://archive.org/download/pup4.311gl ... 9%29v3.iso

bigpup wrote: Fri Jun 25, 2021 1:06 pm

If you can get to running xorgwizard.
Select vesa for the driver to use.

thx bigpup, xorgwizard runs ok,
vesa, 800x600, 16 bit ...

xwin/Xorg seems to start, screen turns black, no ctrl-c,
no way to stop it, hard reset next ...

is Xorg the only gi on this version ?

looks like Xorg was compiled for i686,
could that be the reason ? ... PIII is i586 ?

kernel # commands ok, any other options
other than what was suggested trying earlier versions ?

p310don wrote: Fri Jun 25, 2021 9:43 am

As above, an older pup is possibly better suited, Wary comes to mind....

But, if you boot to a prompt, you could run

Code: Select all

xorgwizard

to choose your video settings

thx p310 ... i did, select vesa, 800x600, 16 bit, no go ..
xorg can't connect to server, can't find the graphics display ...

pup 19.03 does not install a display for some reason,
finds the intel bridge 82801 and all other devices install ok, kb, usb, mouse, etc,
display rez is 0x0, name is null, some is missing ...
but what ?

darry19662018 wrote: Mon Jun 28, 2021 6:25 pm

Yep good thought Mike - Details here: https://archive.org/details/pup4.311gli ... 794sserev1

https://archive.org/download/pup4.311gl ... 9%29v3.iso

thx Darry, pup 19.03 does not install a display for some reason,
finds the intel bridge 82801 and all other devices install ok, kb, usb, mouse, etc,
display rez is 0x0, name is null...if it is not on this build,
likely is not on earlier compiles either ...
some's missing, but what ?

bigpup wrote: Fri Jun 25, 2021 1:06 pm

If you can get to running xorgwizard.
Select vesa for the driver to use.

i did, tried all settings, vesa, low rez, etc,
no go, xwin starts, screen goes blank ...
is there a kb shortcut to exit xwin ?

kernel keeps running it seems ...

Hi solarpuppy

May be for you? 10 years ago I used on Compaq with PIII 600 ~ 1000 MHz (I don't remember details) and no more memory than 512 MB precise-5.7.1. Download generic precise-5.7.1.iso.

Adam

https://archive.org/download/Puppy_Linu ... -5.7.1.iso

Wiz57 wrote: Thu Jun 24, 2021 9:12 pm

Whew, a P III??? Ok, that old CPU is going to be a challenge, but you might find one of the older Slacko Puppies
satisfactory, in regards to most things...web browsing will be a challenge due to limited RAM and lack of SSE.
Try downloading Slacko 6.3.2 from here : http://slacko.eezy.xyz/index.php
Wiz

thx wiz, good puppy .... !

slacko6.3.2.sfs takes a slacking loooooong time copying to ram but ...
it boots ... beautiful ... everything comes up ok and looks fine ....will give it the world
and kyp ...
stay safe

solarpuppy wrote: Fri Jul 09, 2021 5:56 pm

Wiz57 wrote: Thu Jun 24, 2021 9:12 pm

Whew, a P III??? Ok, that old CPU is going to be a challenge, but you might find one of the older Slacko Puppies
satisfactory, in regards to most things...web browsing will be a challenge due to limited RAM and lack of SSE.
Try downloading Slacko 6.3.2 from here : http://slacko.eezy.xyz/index.php
Wiz

thx wiz, good puppy .... !

slacko6.3.2.sfs takes a slacking loooooong time copying to ram but ...
it boots ... beautiful ... everything comes up ok and looks fine ....will give it the world
and kyp ...
stay safe

audio wizard says 'audio device not detected' ... first issue that showed up ...
yes, there is audio on the mobo,
Intel 82801BA ICH2 (AC link output) and CS4201 analog codec

what gives ?

darry19662018 wrote: Fri Jun 25, 2021 5:54 am

Hi,

Sometime ago I made a Bionic Pup with a retro series 3 kernel try this:
https://archive.org/details/bionicpup32 ... .138nonpae

thx Darry,
'toasted' a few cd's, doesn't boot, have no clue why,
what burner do you recommend ?

audio wizard says 'audio device not detected' ... first issue that showed up ...
yes, there is audio on the mobo,
Intel 82801BA ICH2 (AC link output) and CS4201 analog codec

what gives

?
Probably a driver or firmware missing.

Look in the program menu->System->Boot Manager->Modules tab->Add new module
See if it lists the module for Intel 82801BA ICH2 or CS40201 that you could choose to load.

Look in the Blacklist module
See if maybe one of these is getting blacklisted.
Un-blacklist if you find one.

Sorry not sure either I did maual frugal installs or used unetbootin.

there are paremeters at boot-time to give puppy.

for Puppy 4.12 Linux 3.9.11 [i686 arch] grub has in his menu.lst:
-> title PuppyDEas008pre1 (sda3/full)
-> root (hd0,2)
-> kernel /boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/sda3 ahci=on uhci=on ehci=on noacpi

ahci uhci ehci = USB
good try is noacpi

Didn't test if precise an newer puppies accept these paremeters.
And, there maybe also parameters for graphic

Hope it helps

I have an old Windows 2000 military laptop with similar specs.

When I ran Puppy on it, I used Lucid 5.28, which is the version right before Precise (which is updated as Precise Light and already recommended above).

Updated versions of Lucid 5.28 are here. http://forum.puppylinux.com/viewtopic.php?f=126&t=1222

Consider a text based browswer like links2 for simple text based browsing along with whatever else you decide to use. It will be much faster.