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Hi Everybody

Today reviewing my version of puppy precise I found that the address of the ubuntu package server was no longer available and I could not update the PPM, I realized that they made a change in the web address, previously it was like "http://archive.ubuntu.com "and currently changed to" http://old-releases.ubuntu.com "
So i modify this detail in the file "/root/.packages/DISTRO_COMPAT_REPOS" and it works without any problem.

NOTE: this only applies to "legacy" versions or from precise and earlier...

I know that there must be very few of us who still use old versions like precise either out of nostalgia or because the cpu does not have enough capacity ...

Even so, I wanted to share this information with you.

Cheers!!

Yes, a long time ago I had to do the same with UPUP 3.9.9.2 Raring Ringtail. Had to change the URL as well to old-releases.ubuntu.com in the /root/.packages/DISTRO_COMPAT_REPOS

Here is another discussion about it: https://oldforum.puppylinux.com/viewtop ... 20#p805720

Thanks Rocky very handy to know.

rockedge wrote: Fri May 28, 2021 2:18 pm

Yes, a long time ago I had to do the same with UPUP 3.9.9.2 Raring Ringtail. Had to change the URL as well to old-releases.ubuntu.com in the /root/.packages/DISTRO_COMPAT_REPOS

Here is another discussion about it: https://oldforum.puppylinux.com/viewtop ... 20#p805720

Hi @rockedge

I was looking at the post you mentioned and the date is 2015 that is 6 years ago, the news is not recent ...
The "strange" thing for me is that on May 6 I made a new session and I have the habit of running the PPM updates and they worked without problem and yesterday that I wanted to "update" (there is no new update sincerely) it already caused me the error of not finding the server (by the way it is puppy precise the base, the rest not so much )
But hey, the important thing is to have found the solution and to be able to share it in case someone else suffers with this problem, his pain is not so strong
Greetings and thanks

Ubuntu moves all variants that reach EOL (End of Life) from "archive" to "old-releases" and always has done.....
see:
http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases?_ga=2. ... 1622269015

peebee wrote: Sat May 29, 2021 6:20 am

Ubuntu moves all variants that reach EOL (End of Life) from "archive" to "old-releases" and always has done.....
see:
http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases?_ga=2. ... 1622269015

Interesting. So; what I've always thought of as "End-of-life" is in fact "End of support from Canonical". Actual end-of-life is generally 3 years beyond that, or, from Bionic Beaver onwards, that stretches out to 5 years beyond end-of-support.

Which is what gives you the widely-reported 10 year LTS lifespan that was being talked about in all the tech blogs a couple of years back. And also explains why Precise's repos kept working way beyond when I expected them to quit....

Good to know. Cheers, Peter!

Mike.

Similar goes for Debian, for example Debian 8 "Jessie" (from 2015) is now "oldoldstable", but when Bullseye (Debian 11) will be released as "new stable" this year, Jessie will become "oldoldoldstable" and the repository will still be accessible but moved to http://archive.debian.org/debian

Fred

@ PipzDex

Thanks for the information. I understand now why I could not actualize PPM. I'am part of the very very few few few whose still use Precise. I'll change it, but it needs time and material a bit more recent...

I think, generally speaking, that this tends to apply more to what I call the Ubuntu "6-month wonders".....those in-between releases - 3 of them, usually - between every bi-annual (2-yearly) LTS release. UPup 'Raring' fell into this category, of course.

LTS releases tend to maintain a user-accessible set of repos for much, MUCH longer. Even so, I'm truly amazed that Precise's repos have hung on for so long; 2017 would have been the 'official' cut-off point. Mind you, perhaps I shouldn't be; Ubuntu 12.04 LTS "Precise Pangolin" was, after all, the first Ubuntu release to be widely-adopted by the enterprise community.......and those guys & gals are usually pretty slow when it comes to system upgrading, and like to get real "value for money" out of their investments. And sometimes, of course, software built for older releases just doesn't want to 'play ball' with the inherently newer dependency base you tend to get with a newer OS release.

2012-2022 equates to the widely-reported '10-year support window' I referred to earlier in the thread, which I know for a fact has been extended at least as far back as Tahrpup (and Precise was the immediately-preceding LTS release to that.)

Mike.