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Is anyone else seeing that the Palemoon Startpage has changed to https://palemoon.start.me/ru ??

Weird.

Uh, assuming you haven't, you may wanna clear your cache. It sounds OLD.

OR...

It's possibly a "geo-location" issue: New tab (palemoon.start.me) is suddenly in Spanish.

They just made a big update to the portal, and it's possible there are some teething problems with the automatic geo selection based on your IP.

Could just be.

Thanks for the link to moonchilds comment. That must be the problem.

As a matter of interest - what made you think my cache must be old?
Cheers!

I went into a portable browser which I haven't accessed start.me with and it came up as expected (ca). I use a personalized start.me page as my Home page generally. I certainly hope there will be no issues with it moving forward.

Startpage is now owned by an advertising company. There's no reports that it has abused the information it receives from Users. But any organization whose future depends on profit will always have to deal with temptations. I changed my home page to qwant.com.

You should well know the issues that can arise when your browsers cache is stale. Now, no reason for me to rehash the answer to a question that's been asked and answered many, many times over the years. I'm sure you'll find that these two links cut right to the chase.

Good, simple answer explained. More involved and worth the read.

TH

Seems resolved now. Temporary glitch at the Startpage end it seems.

"Show a blank page"

amethyst wrote: ↑Wed Mar 31, 2021 7:42 am

"Show a blank page"

U mean a blank page or a start page?

blank page:

start page:

A blank page as your start page.

amethyst wrote: ↑Wed Mar 31, 2021 8:03 am

A blank page as your start page.

Ahhh right, i understand now. Unfortunately i don't personalise the browser and always start it in pristine mode so i am stuck with the defaults from the developer (including the startpage). I wish we could go back to the days of text files for bookmarks and configs etc.....

greengeek wrote: ↑Wed Mar 31, 2021 8:11 am

amethyst wrote: ↑Wed Mar 31, 2021 8:03 am

A blank page as your start page.

Ahhh right, i understand now. Unfortunately i don't personalise the browser and always start it in pristine mode so i am stuck with the defaults from the developer (including the startpage). I wish we could go back to the days of text files for bookmarks and configs etc.....

Start with a script. Example:

/Palemoon/palemoon "about:blank"

Note: The location of your palemoon executable may differ from the above example. You can start with any url (in the place of about:blank).

Hi, greengeek

Your "problem" with starting Palemoon in pristine mode but still wanting to start with some settings (like bookmarks for example) got me thinking. You can start Palemoon with a specific profile of your choice from any location. So let's say you create a folder with the name of greengeek in /mnt/sda3 as your profile, you can for example start the browser with:

/Palemoon/palemoon -profile "/mnt/sda3/greengeek"

Now, you can add only the configs you want to start the browser with to your profile folder, eg: add the bookmarksbackup folder to your profile folder to show your bookmarks when starting the browser. Note that Palemoon will populate your profile folder with other stuff during the session, so you will have to delete the additional stuff at the end of your session from your profile folder or just replace it with a backup of your original profile. You can also make an sfs of your original profile and in that case any additions will be ignored if you don't save your session.

@amethyst that is exactly what I do. Blank page on every new tab and on first startup a search engine page

greengeek wrote: ↑Wed Mar 31, 2021 8:11 am

... I wish we could go back to the days of text files for bookmarks and configs etc.....

Amethyst's post above provides the solution regarding configs. Wiak's posts on this thread, viewtopic.php?p=20708#p20708, provides the way to maintain your bookmarks in a text file --or several categorized, named text files-- opening to each of URL in the web-browser of your choice. I have yet to figure out how to open the one URL recorded in a text file without first opening the text file. It's on my ToDo list.

mikeslr wrote: ↑Wed Mar 31, 2021 2:34 pm

greengeek wrote: ↑Wed Mar 31, 2021 8:11 am

... I wish we could go back to the days of text files for bookmarks and configs etc.....

Amethyst's post above provides the solution regarding configs. Wiak's posts on this thread, viewtopic.php?p=20708#p20708, provides the way to maintain your bookmarks in a text file --or several categorized, named text files-- opening to each of URL in the web-browser of your choice. I have yet to figure out how to open the one URL recorded in a text file without first opening the text file. It's on my ToDo list.

Okay, so I'm already running Palemoon and want to use another bookmark without closing the browser and starting again with the new bookmark (url)?

mikeslr wrote: ↑Wed Mar 31, 2021 2:34 pm

I have yet to figure out how to open the one URL recorded in a text file without first opening the text file. It's on my ToDo list.

Would "cat" be a command to achieve that?

Oh well i thought the problem was solved - but this morning here is what i get:

This is also happening when attempting to access the palemoon.org. I saw @mikewalsh had updated the 32 bit palemoon portable browser to 29.1.1, so went to check release notes and a similar page was displayed. I checked in different browsers and it was displayed the same. The plaemoon forum and add-on pages are being displayed correctly.

Gawd. What IS that? Looks more like stylised Greek to me.... Doesn't look like Russian.

I just fired-up the pristine 'export' version of what I uploaded a little bit earlier. That's exactly what I got as well..!

Weird.

Sym-linking an ongoing profile from release to release, all I ever get are my 3 'default' start-up tabs; BitMeterOS, the Puppy Forum, and BleepingComputer.com.....

Mike.

In the css file view-source:https://www.palemoon.org/pagestyle.css it specifies the font ModernWakandan

See: https://freefontsdownload.net/free-mode ... 160865.htm

In Firefox, you can uncheck the box in preferences to allow websites to set their own fonts, to see the text as English again.

April Fools joke?

Possibly the site's been hacked, and Moonchild is keeping mum about what's really happened....

The Pale Moon Forum has been down for the last couple of days.....for "language maintenance...??"

Mike.

@mikewalsh I wonder if it was similar to what happened here to us. Using some mechanism someone was able to use this forum's email address to SEND out a mass spam mail attack though our mail server using the forum itself and it's mailing capability. I caught it early before it became a really big problem when a safety breaker suspended all of the the email accounts outgoing and incoming associated with puppylinux dot com and I noticed it. How did I notice you ask? Well the 30+ daily porn site junk mails stopped showing up in the Junk pile. So I thought how odd that is and I noticed no other valid mails as well, so I tested the mail addresses and was met with a big red warning and no working email addresses.

That has been fixed. Also hardened the email security for the forum. Modifications to the forum configuration also should help and closer observation of that mechanism will ensue and will help as a preventive measure.

@rockedge :-

I'd never disparage JM (the community owes him a debt that can never be repaid), but this is what I mean about the difference between he & thee.....you're usually about most days, active, and very much "hands-on"; JM, as I've said before, was something of an "absentee landlord". Yes, we had a "mod", but poor old Flash had rather limited tools at his disposal, I suspect.

I've noticed with other forums in recent years/months that it's no good setting-up a forum, then leaving it to look after itself. Especially over at BleepingComputer; it's a very popular site, has well over a million members.....there's around 15 of us on the moderating staff to cover all the time-zones.....and the sheer amount of spam & crap we have to deal with on a daily basis is jaw-dropping! It's a good job the guv'nor, Lawrence Abrams, is something of a coding whizz-kid himself & has managed to automate a lot of spam detection stuff for us, but there's still enough sneaks through to keep us on our toes.....

(In the last hour alone I've single-handedly consigned nearly 100 spam posts to the 'Removed Content' bin. And this is one of the quieter days...! Of course, that's on top of the trolls, members falling out with each other, folks posting in the wrong section, and all the thousand & one other things we deal with daily... )

As I've said before; thanks for what you do, Erik. It is appreciated.....the more so since I now see both sides of the coin! But it's never-ending, ain't it?

Mike.

It's definitely NOT Russian language. As you know, the vile "Russian hackers" interfere only in elections Check again in browser View>>Character Encoding, maybe just the encoding turned on incorrectly. And install something like http://speeddial.uworks.net in browser.

Grey wrote: ↑Thu Apr 01, 2021 5:23 pm

It's definitely NOT Russian language. As you know, the vile "Russian hackers" interfere only in elections Check again in browser View>>Character Encoding, maybe just the encoding turned on incorrectly. And install something like http://speeddial.uworks.net in browser.

@Grey :-

Like williams2 mentioned, it could just be an April Fool's day "Easter-egg" kinda thing. They wouldn't be the first devs to pull short-lived stunts like that.

What makes ME think there's more to it than that, though, is the fact that the Pale Moon forum has been down for the last 2 or 3 days.....due to problems related to "language maintenance".....!!

We shall see. I periodically look-in over there, so I shall notice any change before too long.

Mike.

mikewalsh wrote: ↑Thu Apr 01, 2021 8:17 pm

We shall see. I periodically look-in over there, so I shall notice any change before too long.

It's good. Don't forget to share your observations. I currently use Chromium, but periodically use Palemoon for purchases on Aliexpress.

@ all :-

Turns out it WAS an April Fool's gag, that Moonchild - the lead project 'dev' - decided to play on the entire Pale Moon community. 'Twas somehow achieved by setting the main server's UTC clock 12 hours ahead, along with a self-destructing temporary 'data' file that only activated when that page was requested.....at the same time, temporarily disabling forum access and displaying the "Down for maintenance" banner. (No, I don't really understand how it worked, either.....)

Forum thread here (already locked):-

https://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.ph ... =26503#top

As williams2 discovered, this is the font in question (more interesting is the history behind it; seems it's a fictional font, developed for a 2018 film called "Black Panther", and was inspired by a South Ghanaian tribal dialect...?) :-

https://www.omniglot.com/conscripts/wakandan.htm

Curious choice. Couldn't get much more obscure if you tried..!

Mike.