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666philb wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 12:45 pmnote that --no-sandbox --test-type can be used to run all chrome based browsers as /root in puppy

666philb wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 12:45 pm

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Exec=/usr/bin/dissenter-browser-stable --no-sandbox --test-type

note that --no-sandbox --test-type can be used to run all chrome based browsers as /root in puppy

wiak wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 3:41 am

666philb wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 12:45 pm

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Exec=/usr/bin/dissenter-browser-stable --no-sandbox --test-type

note that --no-sandbox --test-type can be used to run all chrome based browsers as /root in puppy

Not really I think. See here:

viewtopic.php?p=729#p729

Fine for general browsing,

666philb wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 7:07 pm yes dissenter also prompted me to install widevine (not tested yet) and also google translate on pages of another language.

still dissenters unique selling point is the commenting on every page of the internet, which can be really fun

i've only just discovered that dissenter has an incognito tor mode ....... nice

666philb wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 7:07 pm

yes dissenter also prompted me to install widevine (not tested yet) and also google translate on pages of another language.

still dissenters unique selling point is the commenting on every page of the internet, which can be really fun

I may give it a try someday. I hope there are enough left wing voices on the platform to balance out the discussion.

Saw a mention of dessenter on irc puppy forum, downloaded the .deb file from dessenter.com and used Fatdog's right click convert to package tool ... and installed it, and running it now it looks/feels good. Played youtubes ...etc. OK. Searched and found this thread (that I'd previously missed).

I just ran (in a terminal)
run-as-spot dessenter-browser-stable
... to run it.

I'm not sure who is maintaining it, but you can get the Dissenter Browser here in .sfs and .pet packages:

https://yadi.sk/d/7AkxbX4NqJUah?force_show=1

Has both normal and tor based incognito modes as well (within the hamburger-looking/normal menu). I now have it running in a container and its impressive - but some may have political concerns about using it viewtopic.php?p=15678#p15678

Based on rufwoof's post in the FatDog64 Section, viewtopic.php?p=18301#p18301 and my follow-up thought that with a little tweaking it could run-as-spot and preserve the protection sanboxing provides, I did the tweaking.

To do that I stole two pages from Mike Walsh: (1) How he had structured the SFS google-chrome run-as-spot from /home; and (2) how he structured Brave-portable. Combining the two, then figuring out what went wrong --as dissenter has its own start-up wrapper-- resulted in dissenter64_RAS-1.5.114.sfs. Available from here, https://www.mediafire.com/file/jqitb1sd ... 4.sfs/file

Edit: Error not worth a revised upload. The included version of Mike Walsh's permission changer expects the existence of a folder /root/Downloads. Transfers from /home/spot/Downloads will not work without it. I forgot to include that folder. It may already be part of your system as, AFAIK, every 'regular' web-browser will create it --if it doesn't already exist-- the first time you download anything. By 'regular' I mean a web-browser not structured to run-as-spot. If the /root/Downloads folder is not already part of your system just file-browse to /root, Right-Click an empty space, select New>Directory from the pop-up window and give the folder the name Downloads.

Fortunately it plays Youtube videos with sound OOTB otherwise I probably would have gone-nuts/given-up and it wouldn't have been published. Runs under Bionicpup64 and Xenialpup64. I did not test under fossapup64 as 666philb has already made a version available via quickpet. I did test under LxPupSc64. That Puppy will need whatever libs are usually needed to get 'Ubuntu-built' web-browsers functional.

It passed my test for Spot but not rufwoof's*: When downloading it will expose folders and files outside of Spot; but denies permission to save anything outside of the /spot folder. Mike Walsh's permission-changer enabling a quick transfer of files from /spot/Downloads to /Downloads is built in. If your system already has this the first time dissenter is loaded a second icon of it will show up on the taskbar. Restart-x solves that.

Profiles are maintained in /home/spot/.config/GabAl and cache in /home/spot/.cache/GabAl. Keep in mind that with the entire application in /home a Save will be necessary to preserve any changes. Once you've configured it to your liking I suggest you delete its cache and execute a Save. I added three extensions: Adguard, privacy badger and a eraser. I know dissenter, itself, is supposed to handle the first two chores. But now I have 'someone watching the watcher'. By the time I had finished that configuration there were over 400 files in the cache folder. If I put dissenter to use in the future I'll have to remember to manually clear cache before executing a Save. I know the eraser is supposed to do that. It would be nice if that works.

* This a short, not entirely complete, exposition of the discussion on the 'Privacy is an illusion' thread. A hacker's tampering with your files may have become more difficult. But the information they contain can still be exposed.

I constructed the above SFS under Bionicpup64. Primarily I run 'Ubuntus'; so tested it successfully under Xenialpup64 and Fossapup64.

But today I decided to try 01micko's new Slacko64-7.0. Often 'Ubuntu'-builds won't run OOTB under Slackos, requiring some libs. So I was pleased to find that the Dissenter-RAS.SFS functioned immediately.

This is nice. It runs great on Jackalpup which is a fossapup multi-media remaster. But oddly, it doesn't seem to work on plain Fossapup, unless I have a conflict with some other browser libraries. At the moment I have Palemoon, Falkon, Libre Wolf, Firefox, Ungoogled Chromium, Dissenter, and Tor all loaded. Chromium and Libre Wolf are Mike Walsh portables, the other's are package manager installs, except for Dissenter. I also had loaded Dissenter from the package manager and it wouldn't fire up, so maybe something was left over from the uninstall. Anyway. Dissenter on Jackal is working well!

Hi geo_c,

I'm not certain what may be causing any conflict. But the following might provide a clue:
dissenter64_RAS-1.5.114.sfs is almost entirely self-contained in the /home/spot/dissenter folder*. The exceptions are the files relating to Mike Walsh's permission changer and those which create a menu entry. None of those could possibly conflict with, or be conflicted by, any other files except as noted in the above post that when initially started a 2nd task-bar entry for the permission launcher would appear on the Task bar if one already was there.

There is only one other exception. The source I used to build the SFS had a folder in /etc named "cron.daily". I know almost nothing about the operations of /etc. So when I find files there I leave them alone --just include them-- unless during my testing a problem appears. None did, so it was included. You post induced me to examine it. Turns out that within the cron.daily folder was a symbolic link to a file in /opt/dissenter. Well, in my 'rebuild' the symbolic link is broken because the dissenter folder was moved from /opt to /home/spot.
That suggest that the symbolic link in /etc isn't necessary to create an application which functions under Puppy. But just "in case" it is required for some operation I haven't stumbled upon I rebuilt the SFS so that the symbolic link is to the existent file in /home/spot and re-uploaded it.

The above leads me to suggest that you examine /etc for a folder named "cron.daily". Symbolic links can not over-write actual files of the same name. If your other/prior version has/left a file in cron.daily it may be causing a conflict.

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* As my previous post implies, basically, I just build a portable but located in in /home/spot to be run as spot to enhance security.

Error and work-around. See the paragraph beginning with the words Edit: Error, at viewtopic.php?p=18334#p18334 regarding an oversight and its work-around.

@mikeslr :-

Mike:-

No need to "re-start X" if you end up with two Spot2Root icons in the tray. A right-click gives you a "Quit" button...and new versions of this now have an "About" splash-screen available from the right-clk menu ( just for the hell of it! )

I'll let you into a wee secret..? My main "beef" with 'zilla browsers is the extreme awkwardness of persuading the buggers to use a microphone that's connected to anything other than the 'default' card. Chromium 'clones' will give you a list of every sound card attached to the machine; with the 'zillas, all you get is 'default_source_name'...

(Huh..??)

Meaning if I want to use any of the multitude of web 'chat' apps in a 'zilla browser, I have to use the Logitech headset, and set its built-in card as 'default', before even firing the browser up. I don't get an option. (Unless anybody happens to know where in the mess of about:config there might be a way to change this.?)

Best left alone, in my humble opinion. Rummaging around in there is, to my mind, akin to poking a Kodiak grizzly with a stick; you just know no good will come of it!!

Mike.

How much file space does Dissenter Browser take up?