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not sure if a hardware section is really needed.

Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2020 10:37 am
by bigpup
In the old forum it was not that well supported.
Why?
Because the problems were usually in a specific Puppy version.
Better to talk about in the topic for the specific Puppy version.

Re: not sure if a hardware section is really needed.

Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2020 12:05 pm
by 01micko
No? I just compiled a heap of epson printer drivers that support slacko(32 & 64 - 32 version likely to support bionic32 + and recent dpups), bionic64 (and more than likely support fossa64 + recent dpup64s), and raspup (armhf). The only dependency is cups. Supported by GPLv2 so I can redistribute them.

Where would I post them?

I tested them all too on real hardware on a network epson XP-245 printer. Wireless printer at that. With firewall ON. Testbeds were Slacko, Slacko64, Bionic64 and Raspup.

EDIT.

Drivers subforum of the 'Addtional Software' forum? Not too intuitive I think, but if that is the case then I'll post them there.

Re: not sure if a hardware section is really needed.

Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2020 2:50 pm
by bigpup
Drivers subforum of the 'Addtional Software' forum? Not too intuitive I think,
Agree, but they are software drivers.

Maybe the Drivers subforum of the 'Addtional Software' needs some subsections :idea:
But what subsections?

Re: not sure if a hardware section is really needed.

Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2020 3:22 pm
by Dingo
An hardware reference topic regarding pc and notebooks working with puppy would be very useful. In these days Micro$hit successfully achieved its goal to stopping or making very hard run linux on modern hardware with evil secure boot especiallly for linux distro not able to buy and hardware key and since I do not want use Ubuntu, but puppy linux, that I use since 2007, I'm in trouble when it is matter to buy a new refurbished notebook why I cannot be sure that I can run puppy linux on this hardware poisoned and cursed by secure boot from Micro$hit

Re: not sure if a hardware section is really needed.

Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2020 5:04 pm
by perdido
01micko wrote: Sat Aug 01, 2020 12:05 pm No? I just compiled a heap of epson printer drivers that support slacko(32 & 64 - 32 version likely to support bionic32 + and recent dpups), bionic64 (and more than likely support fossa64 + recent dpup64s), and raspup (armhf). The only dependency is cups. Supported by GPLv2 so I can redistribute them.

Where would I post them?

I tested them all too on real hardware on a network epson XP-245 printer. Wireless printer at that. With firewall ON. Testbeds were Slacko, Slacko64, Bionic64 and Raspup.

EDIT.

Drivers subforum of the 'Addtional Software' forum? Not too intuitive I think, but if that is the case then I'll post them there.
Maybe make a Hardware & Drivers section that is not buried. They could complement each other.
There are always drivers requested.

If I was looking for a driver I would look for (as a rough example only)
Hardware -->
Hardware-->Printers
Hardware-->Video
Hardware-->Networking
Hardware-->Drivers

I do not look at a custom driver for a piece of kit as on the same software plane as word processors or file managers.
Probably just me.
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Re: not sure if a hardware section is really needed.

Posted: Sun Aug 02, 2020 10:28 am
by bigpup
All x86 processor computers can boot and run Puppy Linux.
Secure boot enabled is not a big problem.
gyro developed the Frugalpup Installer program, that can install a fully functional UEFI boot loader and a Puppy security key, for secure boot.
I am posting this from a very new UEFI computer, with secure boot enabled and the Puppy security key installed.

If you do not care about secure boot.
Disable secure boot and or enable CSM or legacy boot in the UEFI bios, will let UEFI computers boot with Grub4dos boot loader.

Hardware problems are usually specific to the Puppy version.
Usually the Puppy version does not have what is needed to support the hardware.
Missing firmware, hardware drivers, and/or kernel not new enough.

Re: not sure if a hardware section is really needed.

Posted: Sun Aug 02, 2020 6:34 pm
by Dingo
bigpup wrote: Sun Aug 02, 2020 10:28 am All x86 processor computers can boot and run Puppy Linux.
Secure boot enabled is not a big problem.
gyro developed the Frugalpup Installer program, that can install a fully functional UEFI boot loader and a Puppy security key, for secure boot.
I am posting this from a very new UEFI computer, with secure boot enabled and the Puppy security key installed.

If you do not care about secure boot.
Disable secure boot and or enable CSM or legacy boot in the UEFI bios, will let UEFI computers boot with Grub4dos boot loader.

Hardware problems are usually specific to the Puppy version.
Usually the Puppy version does not have what is needed to support the hardware.
Missing firmware, hardware drivers, and/or kernel not new enough.
Thanks bigpup, as puppy linux user since 2007, I'm still using today the good old puppy 3.01 with 2.6.21.7 kernel (since 13 years!!) on my desktop pc HP 530 D, but I'm planning to buy a modern notebook, can I ask the notebook model are you using and puppy version?

Re: not sure if a hardware section is really needed.

Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2020 12:31 pm
by bigpup
The computer I have is a HP Stream 14 laptop.
Running Bionicpup64 8.0 and Fossapup64 9.xxxx.

If you buy a new computer of any type.
You will need to use one of the newer Puppy versions and probably one using series 5 Linux kernel.
A lot of the hardware support is in the kernel.
Any older versions of Puppy or older series 3 or 4 kernels, probably will not support the hardware.
Think about it.
How can older software, support hardware that was not even around, when the software was coded.

WIFI hardware is a constant moving target for needed support.
Constantly a new WIFI device is released. So, could still need to get a driver or firmware added, but that is not that hard to add to a Puppy version.

A lot of older versions of Puppy, will boot on my laptop, but usually, WIFI does not work.
Keyboard, mouse, graphics do work OK.
However, the newer the Puppy version and Linux kernel, the better the graphics drivers.
The older drivers, may not support the new features, of the graphics hardware.

If trying to install and boot from an internal emmc drive.
The newer the Linux kernel the better.
I am seeing reports of work on the Puppy Linux kernel, to give better support for emmc drives, in general.