Am I being Romance scammed???? DJ Sandra Bass?

[Jasonbc]

Okay everyone , this is going to be rather hard for me to explain everything , so please bare with me..

nearly a month ago i was on a dating site (match.com) and i'm sure most of you know how the "matching" works on those sites..and this is the typical "you received a message" situations , so to make this part of the long story shorter I'll skip ahead. so it's been about a month of random chit-chat over texting because i have her phone number ..

Now like i said before , this is difficult to type everything out and make it sound right.. we've exchanged photos and even talked on the phone.. And i will mention something specific about the phone calls in a min...

Well , here's the deal , things just don't add up... She claims to live in the LA california area , BUT !! being who I am and knowing what I know I'm always going to do my research.. Call me paranoid , but the internet is what it is. Like I said , We've exchanged pictures.. (and I think I've sent her only two) so I did a reverse image search of the first few pics she sent , nothing turned up, so i figure she has no social media presence , which that in it's sell would be unusual , but not unheard of .. she's has sent more pictures , two of which caught my eyes as being a little off .. because in the pictures you can see a car in the background with what appears to be a foreign License plate, longer and skinny like what they use in the UK (not in the USA) but the car it'self that she's standing next to (which she claims to be hers) has the steering wheel on the left side like in the USA. So what part of the world are cars like that??

There have been a few more recent pictures that , when i reverse image search I find a TikTok account , A Facebook and Instagram accounts and even a friggin OnlyFans!!!.. Now there's a few weird things about all of these accounts - excluding the OF because i don't pay for that stuff. , There has been no activity on any of them - in some cases a few years..

Now here's the kicker , on text messaging she said her name is Elisa Ivanonva and that she's originally from Ukraine .

But the REAL kicker is!!!! We've had video calls!!!!! 5 TIMES so far , I've literally seen her on video (basically facetime) i have android and she has iphone.. and the woman in the pictures DOES in fact match the woman on the video... But the thing is , the social media accounts say that her name is Aleksandra (sasha) Also known as ------

https://www.facebook.com/djsandrabass/a ... 378721601/

Sandra Bass!! https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source= ... YLooIBknux

DJ Sandra Bass????? What is going on here??? She's not asking for money or anything else for that matter..Just talking , telling me about her day ETC so I mean WTF!!!!

As a matter of fact , As I type this post , she's texting me right now asking how I'm doing...

I'm asking opinions here , what are your thoughts???

[Jasonbc]

here are a few picures she's sent me.. the forum isn't allowing me to upload some of them..

[rockedge]

sounds dubious........

[stemsee]

I have extensive experience of this sort of thing. A voice call and facetime - makes her likely to be genuine! I have lots of accounts opened and unused for all kinds of apps and social media, with some experimental user names (my family is international and my 'names/aliases' have justifiable sources! ) are just intellectual movements expressed in personal terms, it isn't illegal, she is just trying on 'dressings', imo. In my honest opinion, she is genuine - but if you are really scared of the nature of her variability just pass her number to me

[Jasonbc]

A voice call and facetime - makes her likely to be genuine! In my honest opinion, she is genuine

it's the weird part , i see her on video call , but if that's really dj sandra bass , then why???

but if you are really scared of the nature of her variability just pass her number to me

LOL that's another problem , it's a Chicago Illinois number!!

[Jasonbc]

sounds dubious........

dubious???

[bigpup]

Has she asked for any money?

[mikewalsh]

@Jasonbc :-

See, this is the number one issue with the internet. Anyone can make up and use any identity they like.....frequently, individuals will create & use multiple different IDs.

That's all well & good, but the big snag is this: If you're going to interact with any number of different people online, using whichever of your "aliases" seems appropriate for that situation, then you've got to have a darned good memory.....and make sure you always present the same alias to the same person over time.

Otherwise, anybody only has to do a bit of detective work.....and your carefully constructed identity can so easily come crashing down around your ears. Time out!!!

Mike.

[darksun]

my opinion is that there is an high risk this is a scam, even if s/he is not asking for money yet.
I have seen documentaries about scamming and some organized groups even hire and pay beautiful women do to video calls, audio messages, pictures and videos. Often they are from poor countries like Asian ones, where the cost of paying such women is low but the potential return from the scam is much higher.

I would focus my time, interests and money on the real life and the women who live there.

[Jasonbc]

Has she asked for any money?

Not at all! No sob stories about needing help or anything...

[Jasonbc]

my opinion is that there is an high risk this is a scam, even if s/he is not asking for money yet.
I have seen documentaries about scamming and some organized groups even hire and pay beautiful women do to video calls, audio messages, pictures and videos. Often they are from poor countries like Asian ones, where the cost of paying such women is low but the potential return from the scam is much higher.

I never thought of it that way , I mean , not really that specifically.. but I have had other random thoughts on the situation..

[Jasonbc]

@Jasonbc :-

That's all well & good, but the big snag is this: If you're going to interact with any number of different people online, using whichever of your "aliases" seems appropriate for that situation, then you've got to have a darned good memory.....and make sure you always present the same alias to the same person over time.

Otherwise, anybody only has to do a bit of detective work.....and your carefully constructed identity can so easily come crashing down around your ears. Time out!!!

And that is a very good point too , Because it's always been the same person talking (as far as i can tell) , with the same set of daily activities and them same way/style of texting or talking... soooooo really good memory ? or hmmmmmm

[spiritwild]

orange interior is quite common for model photo shots. Rovers, Rolls and Mercedes. Status and wealth

I have been contacted before and the person seemed like a human being but they tend to forget details and shoot themselves in the foot.
I had a convo once and she said she was from a certain place so I said wow, how crazy that it snowed there last week, I bet you guys freaked out.

she replied back, I know , it was crazy to see.

It actually never snowed there. EVER

[p310don]

If it's too good to be true, it probably is.

Twenty odd years ago, I had a similar situation. I had just gone through a rough break up and met a girl online (who incidentally a lot like your girl). We talked on the phone, no video calls back then, sent letters & emails, she even sent me a CD, lots of stuff. We had what seemed like a decent, long distance relationship.
Was a complete scam, kinda. She was actually just a teenager playing with me, not actually after anything. I think she enjoyed the attention. But, at the end of the day she wasn't who she said she was.
Being on the rebound from a previous relationship, I was particularly needy, wanting to fill that gap. She lived (supposedly) on the other side of the country. I had plans to visit her, but luckily life got in the way of that plan. In the end, nothing actually happened, I didn't send her anything of value, so no loss, just time and feelings.

Be careful with this one, it could be just someone looking for attention. It could be a long con, get your confidence over time, and then the scam starts. It could be genuine too, but I doubt it.

The car is a Merc G-Wagen, $300000+
The bag is an Hermes Birkin, $20000+
The outfit is probably similarly exxy
The girl is pretty, but a little generic - like a model perhaps

If the photo's of a model, that's not her.
If it is of her, and she's pretty and rich, why is she searching for love online?

[wiak]

Using my pattern-matching eyesight (hahaha) I would however definitely say that these photos are of DJ Sandra Bass. Of course anyone can send any photo claiming to be a person - it is very common; plenty of people probably using photos of models to represent their less than perfect selves!!!... and probably works for them too since (us) men are truly idiots always hoping such opportunities come knocking at our doors for no reason at all (and hence behave like idiot love-struck gentlemen to some ugly fat man pretending to be a sexy young woman and so on ).

So yes, looks to me that these photos are indeed of DJ Sandra Bass. Possible I suppose - maybe just having a bit fun... except... I more than doubt any celebrity would ever release their actual phone number in such a casual way - so scam for sure in my opinion. Except for one thing:

The video call. But in that medium of delivery personal identity is less easy to establish (analyse some still frames maybe?....) - plenty of 'pro'-women ukrainian, albanian, russian, or from wherever women looking somewhat like DJ Sandra Bass but not a penny or any celebrity at all to their name. Out to change their financial status via the likes of yourself - eventually... and a pimp probably in the background managing everything the girl is saying and doing as time goes on - otherwise it would be a crap and pointless scam. Success at scamming should depend on clever behaviour and patience to create an almost certain illusion of truth, for what is not truth at all.

If you want to play the game, my advice would be to always consider it a scam so be careful what you say or reveal and just enjoy watching and listening to the likely scammer in action and wait to see what eventuates (probably subtle attempts to get you to send money, even if many months or a year or two later!). Then again, trust your instincts and don't risk it - you may think you can protect yourself, but sometimes scammers manage to scam the most dubious individuals (rockedge wants her telephone number now, but might end up sending her the proceeds of all received forum donations...).

[mikewalsh]

If it's too good to be true, it probably is.

The car is a Merc G-Wagen, $300000+
The bag is an Hermes Birkin, $20000+
The outfit is probably similarly exxy
The girl is pretty, but a little generic - like a model perhaps

If the photo's of a model, that's not her.
If it is of her, and she's pretty and rich, why is she searching for love online?

Very good points indeed. Too much about it doesn't add up, but as wiak says.....when it comes to this sorta stuff, we men are just such complete fools. We'll willingly make idiots of ourselves without even thinking twice about it...

Yup. Be very cautious with this one.

Mike.

[Jasonbc]

If it's too good to be true, it probably is.

Be careful with this one, it could be just someone looking for attention. It could be a long con, get your confidence over time, and then the scam starts. It could be genuine too, but I doubt it.

If the photo's of a model, that's not her.
If it is of her, and she's pretty and rich, why is she searching for love online?

Yeah , that's what I'm saying too.. Why would a girl like that , be interested in a poor guy like me???

And also, like I said in a previous post , look at the license plate in the background...That's not a USA plate...

Using my pattern-matching eyesight (hahaha) I would however definitely say that these photos are of DJ Sandra Bass.

Yes I would agree. And she's HOT!!!!

Of course anyone can send any photo claiming to be a person - it is very common; plenty of people probably using photos of models to represent their less than perfect selves!!!...

That's true..

So yes, looks to me that these photos are indeed of DJ Sandra Bass. Possible I suppose

From what I've seen on TikTok and her other social media platforms.., Yes that's for sure DJ Sandra Bass..

maybe just having a bit fun... except... I more than doubt any celebrity would ever release their actual phone number in such a casual way -

See that's what I would think too.. And it's also a Chicago phone number.. So it doesn't make sense..

so scam for sure in my opinion. Except for one thing:

The video call.

See , that is where the problem is... I saw her ON VIDEO.. Can that be faked in any way??? And what would be the point ??? I guess to get attention..LOL

On one call , I was sitting in my "office" as I refer to it(here at home), She sees my computer in the background and asks: "where are you right now?" I respond with: "I'm in my office haha" and she says: "oh you mean home office?" and then she giggled in a very SEXY WAY

But in that medium of delivery personal identity is less easy to establish (analyse some still frames maybe?....)

I don't quite follow what you mean..

(rockedge wants her telephone number now, but might end up sending her the proceeds of all received forum donations...).

Maybe I should give it to him

Very good points indeed. Too much about it doesn't add up

Yup. Be very cautious with this one.

Mike.

Well Mike I did something as a test.. I went back on the internet and over to the DJ Sandra facebook account and what do you know -- there's an email address, So ? I emailed it... I said something to the effect of "are you the one texting and talking to me? , Because I was going to add you up on Facebook" - plus i provided the phone number..

several hours later , I get a notification on MY phone for a new email, someone responded and asked me to send a screenshot.. so I did and twenty minutes later they respond back : "No , that's not me"

BUT!!!! here's the funny thing, I've not received anymore texts on my phone since sending the emails... Sooooooooooo?????? What do you make of that???

[Wiz57]

Scammers "spoof" phone numbers/area codes all the time. They also a very "professional" in
their "video" productions, not like the teenage TikTok stuff.

[darksun]

@Jasonbc you could continue chatting and soon after invent a story and ask her for money

[Jasonbc]

@Jasonbc you could continue chatting and soon after invent a story and ask her for money

Oh geez , I could do that ..

[bigpup]

If you are going to use dating services.

Do it for people that are in your location on the earth.

Where you can actually make a face to face date, if you both want to.

Or do as most do, find someone in a club or bar.

In the morning you can see just how drunk you really were!

[Jasonbc]

If you are going to use dating services.

Do it for people that are in your location on the earth.

Where you can actually make a face to face date, if you both want to.

Or do as most do, find someone in a club or bar.

In the morning you can see just how drunk you really were!

LOL yes I would agree. but then again , I'm not looking for a bar girl , just a good woman...

[puppy_apprentice]

A program called Catfish: The TV Show is broadcast on MTV. In it you can ask for help in checking whether a person is sincere or not.
By the way, you can wear a T-shirt with the Puppy Linux logo and tell a little about our distribution

[ozsouth]

I don't envy anyone trying to find a match online now, although I have no experience in these matters - (still) married to my first girlfriend.

[Jasonbc]

I don't envy anyone trying to find a match online now, although I have no experience in these matters - (still) married to my first girlfriend.

How many years?

[Jasonbc]

**UPDATE**

Well , It's been two and a half days since I heard anything from "her" , It's really just very odd , Just shortly after I sent the email , she quit talking (ghosted me), So:

This tells me one of a few possibilities

1. It WAS the real DJ Sandra Bass and she's playing games with people online , possibly she's bipolar or on drugs , or an alcoholic ..

2. It wasn't the real Sandra and possibly the email account has hacked at some point , giving the hacker access to certain online accounts so they can pose as DJ Sandra Bass...

3. I have no idea and I'm living in the Matrix and this is all a simulation...

Either way , I'm just gonna move on from it....

[ozsouth]

@Jasonbc - Over 40.

[Jasonbc]

@Jasonbc - Over 40.

Good ....

[cobaka]

@Jasonbc
There are one hunded ways why people 'disappear' at short notice. Family emergency, accident, sickness.
One day I was walking on the lawn in front of my house. A pain shot thru my back and I dropped to the grass.
I was in bed for 3 or 4 days, could hardly move.

About slavic woman.
I had a fiancee in Belarus - Iryna. I stayed with her (and her mother).
For me, covid was a real bugger - she died from it (and pneumonia).
I still write with her family.

Iryna was a beautiful person - very kind, very intelligent, wonderfully loyal, and with a wicked sense of humor.
Very honest. We communicated in Russian. (Я говарю по Русскии). She knew little English.

Given time, you can reliably determine whether your "correspondent" is genuine.
Learn about her family - mother, father, мать, отец, и братья, сестры.
But don't begin with questions - tell her about your family history and listen to her response.
We (who live in the west) know nothing about life compared with people whose family lived through The Great Patriotic War.
Somewhere between 25 and 30 million Russians/Ukrainians died between 1941-45. In Belarus, 25% of the population died in that time.
If her family lived anywhere east of the Polish border she will have family stories that will make your hair stand on end! Family members who simply "vanished" without trace.
In Stalingrad 40,000 civilians died in one week. In 200 days Stalin shipped about 1 million men across the Volga to defend the city, but he forbade the NKVD to record the number.
In Ржев, (Rzhev) - a city of 50,000 - 200 survived the winter.
If her family came from Ukraine, then she will have stories about her grandparents (or great grandparents) and how they survived the "holodomor" (death by hunger).
There were several; the most recent was 1947 - after the war.

Why do I tell you this? Because 'family stories' are a reliable way to build trust.
Don't rush! Let the situation develop slowly.

Ask her about Ukrainian history - what her father (and grandfather) did in "The Great Patriotic War".
Find out what city/region (област) she came from. Don't ask her - instead tell of how your family got to USA.
Don't use the phrase "Patriotic War", but if SHE uses that phrase instead of WWII - she's probably Slavic, at a minimum.

If she came from Ukraine (in other words grew up in Ukraine) she cannot hide her accent.
She will say words like "ТЫ" и "Мы" in a way you can't. (It's sort of "Ti" and "Mey" - but I can't say them.)
She will pronounce the sounds of "З" and "Ж" correctly. She will know the difference in sound between Ш и Щ.

On the other hand, I'm somewhat suspicious of elegant, good-looking women.
Slavic women who are a little "plain" are pure gold.
They understand companionship; they know to to build trust.
That's my experience. Good luck.

Собака

[Grey]

If she came from Ukraine (in other words grew up in Ukraine) she cannot hide her accent.

Hello. It's actually possible. But it all depends on the region and the "natural possibilities" given to a particular person.

She will know the difference in sound between Ш и Щ.

Exactly this... Well, it's not that difficult (for residents of certain areas), although there are nuances. But this sound sounds different in different parts of Ukraine. Especially "Щ" It can be exactly one sound, or it can be two sounds (ШЧ). I think I can imitate both options, but in some regions it depends on this sound whether you are recognized as a local resident.