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Got BookwormPup64_10.0.8 setup, programs installed that I use daily on a Dell E4310 via Synaptic (excellent work!)

Dell Latitude E4310
Intel® Core™ i5 i5-520M
HD Graphics
8GB DDR3-SDRAM 1066 MHz 2 x 4 GB

Setup Puppy with the "Install to HDD" option in Puppy installer, the option that creates the boot files for you onto a spinning platen 240g drive, the whole drive was formatted Ext4 before installation.

The main reason I installed it this way is I need 1 USB port free and the only other one is taken up by the mouse dongle, which is a must on this model as the touch-pad is turned off in the BIOS as this model has a common fault where the courser goes nuts nutso! and gets stuck at the edge of the screen, I know because I bought a job lot of them several years ago for next to nothing from a IT recycling company, no battery or OS ... plus the laptop is often mounted on a frame that sits above my head for watching while lying on my back "King Leonardo Style" wireless mouse is a must.

Hand brake has been running 24/7 to re-encode video I own, watching video or using the web in bed before sleep are the two main things I'm doing.

Got it how I want it Friday night, woke up Monday morning to find the system was unusable, non responsive, mouse curser responded, but nothing on the UI did, eventually had to perform a Hard Reset, the system survived and Handbrake continued without a problem.

This morning I rebooted so not to end up having the perform a Hard Reset again, is this something I will need to do or is it to do with how I set this up?

Hi S2E10, Did you have Bookworm create a swapfile when it installed to hard drive?

You may be running short on memory if you didn't.

Thanks for replying.

I went with the defaults.

This tell you anything? there's a swap file listed, not being used (See image in link below)

https://photos.google.com/u/1/photo/AF1 ... vfbfXF7nvn

Season2Episode10 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2024 4:56 am

Thanks for replying.

I went with the defaults.

This tell you anything? there's a swap file listed, not being used (See image in link below)

https://photos.google.com/u/1/photo/AF1 ... vfbfXF7nvn

If you have a swap file then it will be only used when needed, not all the time. Converting video can be memory intensive, that's why I asked since yours is a new install and all your software seems to be installed from the debian repository which is generally a rock-solid place to install from.

It is not normal to have to reboot puppy linux, something in either the installed software or the hardware is crashing your system.

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I'm not familiar with handbrake's configuration options. Debian Bookworm operates as a 'Unity' constantly reading and writing between RAM and your Storage Media upon which the User's Home folder is located. Puppys are designed to run in RAM only writing to Storage either automatically at shut-down (PupMode 12) or on demand when the 'Save' Icon is clicked and with Ask at Shutdown being offered (PupMode 13). Under Puppys the User's 'Home' folder is /root, which is in RAM. RAM, of course is needed to effect changes. If handbrake is writing its output to the User's 'Home folder' under Puppys that output is also accumulating in RAM.

Everything under Puppys takes place in RAM except that you can direct storage into folders on /mnt/home, which is on your Storage Media. Create such folder on /mnt/hom: Right-Click and empty space on /mnt/home, from the pop-up menu select New>Directory and give it a name, e.g. output or HBoutput. Then see if your can configure handbrake to use that as its output folder. If not, try the following:

After you've created the 'HBoutput' folder on /mnt/home, open a second Rox window to /root. Left-Press, Hold, then drag the 'HBoutput' folder from /mnt/home to /root and select Link(relative) from the Popup Menu. Handbrake should see and use that folder 'thinking' its within your Home folder. But its now on /mnt/home. 'Should', of course, isn't the same as 'will'.

If handbrake as a default 'output' folder, you can try dragging it to /mnt/home, selecting Move; then dragging it back and selecting Link(relative).

@Season2Episode10

Have you tried MakeMKV instead of Handbrake?

https://forum.makemkv.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=224

For Intel graphics read this re: Intel Quick Sync Video

https://handbrake.fr/docs/en/latest/tec ... o-qsv.html

mikeslr wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2024 4:45 pm

I'Under Puppys the User's 'Home' folder is /root, which is in RAM. RAM, of course is needed to effect changes. If handbrake is writing its output to the User's 'Home folder' under Puppys that output is also accumulating in RAM.

Set the output to a folder on the HDD, am aware of how Puppy works as I've made that mistake in the past

Thanks

Jasper wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2024 4:54 pm

@Season2Episode10

Have you tried MakeMKV instead of Handbrake?

https://forum.makemkv.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=224

For Intel graphics read this re: Intel Quick Sync Video

https://handbrake.fr/docs/en/latest/tec ... o-qsv.html

Thanks for the input.

according to the Handbrake log

"Intel(R) HD Graphics 520 - 30.0.101.1338 - (Unsupported Driver Detected)" the extract is from the log file on a windows machine.

Investigated that a long time ago thinking the driver was wrong ... There's only a limited few settings supported and I'm encoding at way below 1080p which is the lowest setting Qsync supports.

Have been using HB exclusively for a long time, the video is from the days when I got out and filmed events in the city I lived in, much of the video is raw, using HB not only for its convenience (worked in IT, now retired and sick to death of fussing and bashing) the output I choose is compatible with editing software I purchased back in about 2009 which does not support .mkv, don't have the money to buy more storage so am further compressing video at a high constant quality setting and very slow preset, every setting was an experiment to find what looks good on my small screens, retired to a small off-grid cabin, have ... and do use MakeMKV on stuff I'm sure I'll never want to edit or only need the end, beginning or both trimmed off, for that I use avidemux if it's .mkv.

@Season2Episode10

Are you encoding to x264 or x265?

If so, you could try doing this directly with FFMpeg ........... but see that you do not want the fuss of using the command line.

Check the version of FFMpeg that you have installed and see if has the encoders installed that would allow you to do this directly.

If you want to update, you can do through your package manager or try a statically linked build available here:

There is a simple GUI application that comes with Fossapup64 (does require Qt for the GUI) called QWinFF.

There should be other alternatives in the Multimedia section.

mikeslr wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2024 4:45 pm

Puppys are designed to run in RAM only writing to Storage either automatically at shut-down (PupMode 12)

That's not how my Pupmode 12 Puppies work. Data is written directly to storage when it is created. But maybe something has changed.

rcrsn51 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2024 1:52 pm

mikeslr wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2024 4:45 pm

Puppys are designed to run in RAM only writing to Storage either automatically at shut-down (PupMode 12)

That's not how my Pupmode 12 Puppies work. Data is written directly to storage when it is created. But maybe something has changed.

You know, I think I've always misunderstood Pupmode 12. But then, I've never intentionally used it. Checking, https://www.forum.puppylinux.com/viewtopic.php?t=6526 suggests that the writing is done automatically/directly. So unless you're running in Pupmode 13, handbrake should be directly 'outputting' to storage and my post should be ignored.

Jasper wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2024 8:59 am

@Season2Episode10

Thanks Jasper, I'll look into it

Have not had the unresponsive problem since, though every so often I'm presented with the terminal, then type "reboot" and continue back to the GUI, having lost whatever work Handbrake hadn't completed.

Choosing "About" from the radio button in Synapse causes a system lock up every-time, I just tested it again.