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My very best PuppEX Noble64 version (so far)!

Posted: Sun Oct 20, 2024 2:19 pm
by exton

NEWS 241028
I've uploaded a new version of PuppEX Noble64 "original" with the ROX Desktop Environment. This time with the latest available stable kernel from kernel.org - 6.11.5.

NEWS ABOUT PuppEX Noble64 "original" with the ROX Desktop Environment - Build 241020
This Puppy derivative is made by me. It is built from Ubuntu 24.04 (Noble Numbat) packages and packages built from woof-CE Recipes. I've also compiled a brand new kernel - 6.6.2-exton. This is possibly the best PuppEX version I've ever made. Everything just works! I could run the system very well on all of my six different computers. Among them on a really old computer – Acer Aspire 5102WLMi from 2006. I've included devx_puppex-noble64.sfs in the ISO file. Load it if you need it. Study all installed packages in this PuppEX build.

SCREENSHOTS
1. The ROX DE with Synaptic running
2. Showing a WiFi connection
3. Installing Google Chrome
4. The ROX Desktop 241028
5. Showing a Samba connection using PCManFM 241028

READ MORE...


Re: My very best PuppEX Noble64 version (so far)!

Posted: Sun Oct 20, 2024 4:57 pm
by norgo

@exton
Thank you for this PuppEX
Everything is working? are you sure?

I did a short test with the installed PCManFM (gtk)
The menu has multiple entries for PCManFM
please have a look at /etc/xdg/menus/hierarchy and update the desktop file

the menu entry of PCManFM has no icon
update the desktop file

PCManFM doesn't show devices, network, applications, desktop, trash
network connection e.g. smb:// not possible
how to mount a device

topic firmware no comment

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[   27.119512] iwlwifi 0000:00:14.3: Direct firmware load for iwlwifi-so-a0-hr-b0-83.ucode failed with error -2
[   27.119583] iwlwifi 0000:00:14.3: Direct firmware load for iwlwifi-so-a0-hr-b0-82.ucode failed with error -2
[   27.119647] iwlwifi 0000:00:14.3: Direct firmware load for iwlwifi-so-a0-hr-b0-81.ucode failed with error -2
[   27.119716] iwlwifi 0000:00:14.3: Direct firmware load for iwlwifi-so-a0-hr-b0-80.ucode failed with error -2
[   27.119777] iwlwifi 0000:00:14.3: Direct firmware load for iwlwifi-so-a0-hr-b0-79.ucode failed with error -2
[   27.119835] iwlwifi 0000:00:14.3: Direct firmware load for iwlwifi-so-a0-hr-b0-78.ucode failed with error -2
[   27.119897] iwlwifi 0000:00:14.3: Direct firmware load for iwlwifi-so-a0-hr-b0-77.ucode failed with error -2
[   27.119975] iwlwifi 0000:00:14.3: Direct firmware load for iwlwifi-so-a0-hr-b0-76.ucode failed with error -2
[   27.120048] iwlwifi 0000:00:14.3: Direct firmware load for iwlwifi-so-a0-hr-b0-75.ucode failed with error -2
[   27.120115] iwlwifi 0000:00:14.3: Direct firmware load for iwlwifi-so-a0-hr-b0-74.ucode failed with error -2
[   27.120183] iwlwifi 0000:00:14.3: Direct firmware load for iwlwifi-so-a0-hr-b0-73.ucode failed with error -2
[   27.120252] iwlwifi 0000:00:14.3: Direct firmware load for iwlwifi-so-a0-hr-b0-72.ucode failed with error -2
[   27.120319] iwlwifi 0000:00:14.3: Direct firmware load for iwlwifi-so-a0-hr-b0-71.ucode failed with error -2
[   27.120385] iwlwifi 0000:00:14.3: Direct firmware load for iwlwifi-so-a0-hr-b0-70.ucode failed with error -2
[   27.120453] iwlwifi 0000:00:14.3: Direct firmware load for iwlwifi-so-a0-hr-b0-69.ucode failed with error -2
[   27.120536] iwlwifi 0000:00:14.3: Direct firmware load for iwlwifi-so-a0-hr-b0-68.ucode failed with error -2
[   27.120600] iwlwifi 0000:00:14.3: Direct firmware load for iwlwifi-so-a0-hr-b0-67.ucode failed with error -2
[   27.120666] iwlwifi 0000:00:14.3: Direct firmware load for iwlwifi-so-a0-hr-b0-66.ucode failed with error -2
[   27.120733] iwlwifi 0000:00:14.3: Direct firmware load for iwlwifi-so-a0-hr-b0-65.ucode failed with error -2
[   27.183890] i915 0000:00:02.0: Direct firmware load for i915/adlp_dmc.bin failed with error -2
[   27.183941] i915 0000:00:02.0: Direct firmware load for i915/adlp_dmc_ver2_16.bin failed with error -2
[   27.200260] i915 0000:00:02.0: [drm] *ERROR* GT0: GuC firmware i915/adlp_guc_70.bin: fetch failed -ENOENT
[   27.201214] i915 0000:00:02.0: [drm] *ERROR* GT0: GuC initialization failed -ENOENT
[   27.201216] i915 0000:00:02.0: [drm] *ERROR* GT0: Enabling uc failed (-5)
[   27.201218] i915 0000:00:02.0: [drm] *ERROR* GT0: Failed to initialize GPU, declaring it wedged!

nevertheless looks good for the first try ;-)


Re: My very best PuppEX Noble64 version (so far)!

Posted: Sun Oct 20, 2024 5:31 pm
by exton

@norgo,

I mean everything of importance.

Missing icons is not so important. Easy to fix.

Mount with the mount app.

Samba connections via PCManFM is not possible, but you can connect with a terminal command.


Re: My very best PuppEX Noble64 version (so far)!

Posted: Sun Oct 20, 2024 6:04 pm
by norgo

you are right, missing icons and menu entries are easy to fix.

I have to disagree
PCManFM is able to mount/unmount devices and to connect to samba share ;-)

pcmanfm connect to samba share and mount device
pcmanfm connect to samba share and mount device
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thank you for PuppyEX :thumbup:


Re: My very best PuppEX Noble64 version (so far)!

Posted: Sun Oct 20, 2024 7:29 pm
by exton

Yes "normally" PCManFM can do that, but not in all distros. Something is obviously missing in PuppEX Noble64. And in all other PuppEX versions.

The command I use for Samba connections: smbclient \\\\192.168.0.38\\LINUX -U arne


Re: My very best PuppEX Noble64 version (so far)!

Posted: Sun Oct 20, 2024 8:24 pm
by norgo

@exton
or you could install gvfs

pcmanfm_gvfs.jpg
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Re: My very best PuppEX Noble64 version (so far)!

Posted: Mon Oct 21, 2024 1:39 pm
by Clarity

Hello @exton

Could the problem with SAMBA be the target server allows SMB2 or above (which it should for good security)?


Re: My very best PuppEX Noble64 version (so far)!

Posted: Mon Oct 21, 2024 6:28 pm
by exton

@norgo

Yes, the gvfs package was missing, but unfortunately installing it doesn't help. Not in my latest PuppEX anyway. I did forget about gvfs. Normally it should be enough to make Samba work in PCManFM if also cifs-utils and winbind are installed.


Re: My very best PuppEX Noble64 version (so far)!

Posted: Mon Oct 21, 2024 6:40 pm
by exton

@Clarity

SMB2: I don't think that is the problem since Samba works. Watch this screenshot. Just when using PCManFM for the connection.


Re: My very best PuppEX Noble64 version (so far)!

Posted: Mon Oct 21, 2024 9:42 pm
by mikeslr

@exton,

I can't criticize your work as I've always found your Puppies to be excellent. The problem is finding them. AFAICT, the most relevant link in your OP for PuppEX Noble64-Build 241020 brings a potential User here, https://puppex.exton.se/. From there, one has to guess, often wrongly. Eventually if one perservers a download link for an ISO is found. Those unfamiliar with your work won't. It took me over 10 minutes going from one URL trying the links on it to another and trying the links on it to find the link for PuppEX Noble64-Build 241020 and I only perservered because I know how good your work is. [I'd provide a direct link, but I've since lost it :( ].

My recollection has been every one of your Puppys I've tried presents the same challange. Please provide a direct link in your OPs to the Puppy it offers.


Re: My very best PuppEX Noble64 version (so far)!

Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2024 9:12 am
by exton

@mikeslr

Thanks for your kind words.

All PuppEX versions can be downloaded from SourceForge.net at https://sourceforge.net/projects/puppex/files/

Two PuppEX versions can also be downloaded from the Swedish Linux Society's server at http://ftp.svenskalinuxforeningen.se/di ... ons/exton/

Links to those download sites can be found at https://puppex.exton.se

The reason I don't provide direct download links for each PuppEX version is that I want presumptive PuppEX users to read my INFO before downloading.


Re: My very best PuppEX Noble64 version (so far)!

Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2024 3:08 pm
by mikeslr

Thanks for the direct link to "your" repo. I now remember what threw me off. The name of the Puppy I wanted to download is "puppex-noble64-uefi-devx-original-desktop-902mb-241020.iso". Scanning the page I saw the devx and originally skipped over it. When I got back to that page the size of the ISO and date of publication were the clues suggesting this was the Puppy I wanted.

Maybe you're including too much information in naming. "Couldn't see the forest because of the trees". "puppex-noble64-241020.iso" or maybe "puppex-noble64-JWM-241020.iso" to distinguish it from "puppex-noble64-mate-241007.iso" might have been clearer.

By now most new Linux ISOs include the files needed to boot from UEFI computers. So that notation isn't necessary. Also, maybe considering not including the devx in the ISO. Many users will never compile so adding 171 Mbs to a download may be a deterent, especially over slow wifi. [FWIW, I downloaded your ISO to my laptop near my router. To do so to my desktop with its flaky wifi would have taken over an hour even if successful. There's a good chance during that time I would have loss the connection.] Do make the devx available with an appropriate name, e.g. "puppex-noble64-jwm-devx.sfs" for those who want it. Separating it saves bandwidth. Also, AFAIK, the devx for "puppex-noble64-jwm" and "puppex-noble64-mate" may be interchangeable. If so, both storage space and bandwidth are conserved.

Just some ideas. Don't be offended. I really would like to see more people becoming familiar with your work. And always take into consideration that not every idea I have is a good one. :roll: :lol:


Re: My very best PuppEX Noble64 version (so far)!

Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2024 11:52 pm
by Clarity

Hello @exton

No problems to report for puppex-noble64-uefi-devx-original-desktop-902mb-241020.

My download is quick and in-line in size for other forum distros. So your packaging does NOT affect this distro's performance while it offers a single packaging for several forum users (@Jasper and several others, stemsee+etc, come to mind) who would take advantage in the packaging.

The ONLY concern I have, as I do with ALL forum distros, is a need for some simple admin tools that are tiny and extremely helpful, IMHO. They are only terminal commands:

  • findsmb (a network utility presented by @01micko that is extremely useful if you have other devices sharing on your home's network)

  • BTOP as it is much much more expressive of system information than TOP/HTOP

  • TLDR because ALLof us need a quick example from time to time

  • Neofetch/Fastfetch for some simple helpful system information in a clear columnar layout

More and more forum distro see a need for these tools and are including them to be helpful to both users, admin, and developers, alike.

I will be testing bare-metal on my home network, later, where I will be seeing if I can replicate the SAMBA issue you have shared.


Re: My very best PuppEX Noble64 version (so far)!

Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2024 12:32 am
by BologneChe

@exton

Very good job!!! :thumbup2:


Re: My very best PuppEX Noble64 version (so far)!

Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2024 8:36 am
by Jasper

@exton

Thanks for sharing this with us :thumbup: It's a good offering ...... AUFS kernel :thumbup2:

Original contents of ISO

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I did some initial testing.

Memory usage

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mpv.conf needs to be adjusted ......... it seems that in my case VA-API has not included with the compiling of mpv (?)

The only OS that I know it works is FP95.

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MTP library missing

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Strange red glow in the file manager

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I did rearrange your original ISO and stripped out Palemoon, DevX and the Fdrv and the end result was a considerably smaller ISO.

I removed the fdrv for users who are happy to use their existing firmware files from previous builds.

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I am not planning on uploading the smaller ISO as there are still some 'bugs' that need fixing first.

I did encounter an issue with GParted and StickPup.

GParted did allow me to go through the steps of formatting a USB flash drive and confirmed that it had done so.

Tried using StickPup to install an ISO and received an error message to inform me that 'FAT32 was not able to be created'. :roll:

Checked the drive on a different PC and it was not recognised in Windows.

Used VoidPup64 to format it once again and then install an ISO which worked fine.


Re: My very best PuppEX Noble64 version (so far)!

Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2024 10:48 am
by Jasper

If anyone wants to try this 'cut down' ISO

Puppex-Noble64-24-10-20 (stripped of Palemoon, DevX and fdrv)

https://www.mediafire.com/file/6ml56hdk ... 0.iso/file

Original firmware

fdrv_upup64n_24.04.sfs

https://www.mediafire.com/file/j7l5vnsl ... 4.sfs/file

Original DevX

devx_puppex_24.04.sfs

https://www.mediafire.com/file/x6e7k0r6 ... 4.sfs/file


Re: My very best PuppEX Noble64 version (so far)!

Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2024 12:54 pm
by exton

@Jasper

Thank You for testing PuppEX and your report. I really appreciate it.

/Arne


Re: My very best PuppEX Noble64 version (so far)!

Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2024 5:05 pm
by Jasper

As a comparison, this is my JammyPup64 (JRB) desktop which appears to consume more RAM.

JammyPup64.png
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Re: My very best PuppEX Noble64 version (so far)!

Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2024 7:02 pm
by Jasper

@exton

Is this directory meant to be included? :lol:

Noob.jpg
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Just reading through the package list and realised that my onboard Gfx driver was not included ...i915

Intel-i915.jpg
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If you do decide to continue with future updates, can this be included?

Video acceleration working in FossaPup95

i915-mpv-va-api.jpg
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Re: My very best PuppEX Noble64 version (so far)!

Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2024 7:05 pm
by Jasper

Also, I had a quick run with the DevX.

Compiled an application which worked with no issue.

From the top of my head GCC 13.2, Python 3.12.3, Cmake 3.2x ......... is there a list of packages available for this too?


Re: My very best PuppEX Noble64 version (so far)!

Posted: Fri Oct 25, 2024 8:52 am
by exton

@Jasper

I have no package list for the devx-file. Sorry.


Re: My very best PuppEX Noble64 version (so far)!

Posted: Fri Oct 25, 2024 4:36 pm
by Jasper

@exton

Okay.

I did a quick investigation and found the following available:

GCC 13.2.0
Cmake version 3.28.3
Python 3.12.3
Make 4.3
Autoconf 2.71
Automake 1.16.5
Git 2.43.0
Meson 1.3.2
Ninja 1.11.1
m4 1.4.19
Perl 5.38.2
Curl 8.5.0
OpenSSL 3.0.13
Bison 3.8.2
ccache version 4.9.1


Re: My very best PuppEX Noble64 version (so far)!

Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2024 8:12 am
by exton

@norgo
@Jasper

NEWS 241028
I've uploaded a new version of PuppEX Noble64 "original" with the ROX Desktop Environment. This time with the latest available stable kernel from kernel.org - 6.11.5.

NEW SCREENSHOTS
1. The ROX Desktop 241028
2. Showing a Samba connection using PCManFM 241028

READ MORE...


Re: My very best PuppEX Noble64 version (so far)!

Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2024 2:29 pm
by Jasper

@exton

Thanks for the update :thumbup:

New wallpaper ..... looks like a bear to me :mrgreen:

I still get tearing on video playback. Apart from that all good.

Kernel update only

PuppEX-Noble64-Exton-Kernel-6-11-5

https://www.mediafire.com/file/zus8ia4s ... ar.xz/file


Re: My very best PuppEX Noble64 version (so far)!

Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2024 2:59 pm
by exton

@Jasper

Thanks for trying out also this version of PuppEX.

Tearing: I have no such problems on my computers. I guess it is a hardware problem on yours.


Re: My very best PuppEX Noble64 version (so far)!

Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2024 7:54 pm
by Jasper

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