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Cannot access HDD from Handbrake

Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2024 1:30 pm
by Season2Episode10

Hi all.

Have burnt puppy to a USB thumb drive booted and installed the .pet for handbrake, when I use "Add File" I cannot find how to browse to the HDD (ext4) only any USB drives mounted show.

How is this done?

Thanks

"Addendum.

The term "Suck it and see" applies to my choosing a distro, in this case I didn't "Suck" long enough. my plan was to install this distro to the HDD, once I had using the "Installer" option (not Frugal pup installer option) which takes all the hard work out of setting up the boot manager, am old, bashing, writing script etc sh^ts me now!

Had forgotten that Synaptic package manager needs to be updated with what is available on the repo site once the install finishes, once I had done that I find ... Handbrake, VLC and Password Safe are all available for this distro, which makes it something special when compared to any so called light distros available, have found them ALL to be laggy on a Dell Latitude E4310, which ran win7-64 very well with 8g ram, have never once seen a wait when executing a program or using functions of the program, outside of the limitations of the hardware, slower spinning platen HDD etc"


Re: Cannot access HDD from Handbrake

Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2024 2:43 pm
by bigpup

On the desktop should be drive icons for the different partitions on all the drives the computer has.

One or several should be for the internal hard drive.

Drives are not auto mounted, so you need to mount the one you are trying to access.

Left click on the drive icon for the one you need mounted.
The drive partition should show it's contents in a Rox file manager window.
You can close Rox.

The drive icon will have a mount indicator on top right side of icon.

Now try to use Handbrake.


Re: Cannot access HDD from Handbrake

Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2024 12:43 am
by Season2Episode10

Thanks for replying, the drives available were all mounted as I'd transferred files into them for encoding, the problem was that Handbrake cannot navigate to them when clicking "Open Source" dragging and dropping did not work either, when I navigated to mnt/home only the folders that existed on USB drive displayed or the USB drive I had plugged in,appeared.

Opened every single folder I could find, did not find a reference to the HDD's ... then I installed Puppy to the HDD and booted that, installed the Handbrake .pet and was able to find the HDD home mnt/home.

Have used Puppys since somewhere between 2004 to 2006, I was able to install it on a old laptop with a broken floppy drive that refused to boot from the CD drive using a USB floppy and a floppy booter made from this software someone had made available for just that purpose, it was the only OS I could get installed on this POS, and wow!

Could someone please create a version with a repo installer, like Linux Lite has, sadly that OS has turned into Linux Bloated, laggy and slow, opposite of what I wanted, but it was setup for someone like me, someone "Over" command line bashing" who wants an easy to use interface where everything can be easily found and organised and any program from flatpaks etc to whatever is in the repo that's included same stuff that is available to the users of a larger distro, a file manager with an address bar so you know where you're at ... it's a big ask, I know that the file manager be like freecommander or something like the new cross platform file manager (perhaps) I had an email about recently and have forgotten to follow up on.

Include very little in the distro, and give the user the option to install anything the user needs.

Thanks for the OS, am tired of laggy offerings claiming to be "light"


Re: Cannot access HDD from Handbrake

Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2024 1:13 am
by bigpup

when I navigated to mnt/home only the folders that existed on USB drive displayed or the USB drive I had plugged in,appeared.

I am going to guess you are booting from an install of Puppy Linux on this USB drive.
You made a save file/folder to store changes, placed it on this USB, and boot using the save.

In Puppy file system /mnt/home is always the partition the save is on.
/mnt/home does not get created, until a save is made, and boot using it.
Think of it as the home of the save file/folder.

Home is not used like it is in other Linux OS's.

There is a /home directory, but it is used for the special user spot's directory.
When running something as spot user.
Anything that is downloaded is placed only in that spot directory.


Re: Cannot access HDD from Handbrake

Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2024 1:17 am
by bigpup

You posted in the BookwormPup section.

What version of BookwormPup are you using?

where did you get the pet package for Handbrake?


Re: Cannot access HDD from Handbrake

Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2024 1:33 am
by bigpup

In BookwormPup64 10.0.7

I used Apt package manager to install Handbrake v1.6.1.

Do you know how to use Apt?

when I use Handbrake and select file ->Open source ->other locations ->Computer ->mnt -> it provides a tree list of all the different drives partitions under mnt.

Click on one of them to open showing it's contents.

The Drive Has to Be mounted before it will open showing contents.

If not already mounted it will show nothing for the drive.

I assume you know how to mount a drive partition, using the desktop drive icons.

Most likely you are using a pet package that is not compatible with BookwormPup64.


Re: Cannot access HDD from Handbrake

Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2024 6:32 am
by Season2Episode10

Installed Handbrake via a .pet file I found a link to in this forum, it was created earlier this year.


Re: Cannot access HDD from Handbrake

Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2024 9:32 am
by bigpup

Have you tried what I did?

If you are not going to answer all my questions.

I can provide no more help.


Re: Cannot access HDD from Handbrake

Posted: Mon Oct 21, 2024 2:26 pm
by mikeslr
Season2Episode10 wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2024 12:43 am

I cannot find how to browse to the HDD (ext4) only any USB drives mounted show.
...

Please identify the link from which you downloaded the Handbrake pet. My suspicion is that --for whatever reason :? -- it was built to run as 'Spot'. Spot is a 'limited User' which can only access folders having 'spot' rather than 'root' permissions. Primarily Spot is used for web-browsers, which makes sense. The web is the mother of all malware and preventing web-facing applications from accessing everything provides some deterent. But for other applications it's a PITA. [Other Linuxes limit you to your own folder which can encompass as much room as you need, expanding automatically, but don't allow you access to the files which provide the operating system and applications, only use them].
Uninstall Handbrake. It will either have to be rebuilt or you'll need to find an alternative.
My recollection is that Handbrake is used to convert media files from one format to another. What else do you use it for? Ask for the alternatives for those functions. I'm not running Bookworm right now. But IIRC, you can use synaptic to install Winff to do conversions. Avidemux can also do that, and much more, but conversions must be done one file at a time and isn't as straight-forward. You can obtain the avidemux 2.8.1 AppImage here, https://sourceforge.net/projects/avidem ... mux/2.8.1/ Download, Right-Click, select Properties and put check-marks in all Executable boxes. Left-Click to use.

Update: Just booted into Bookworm and installed the ffconvert pet from here, https://www.forum.puppylinux.com/viewto ... 548#p30548. It can access the hard-drive on my laptop. But can't test as all my vids are on my desktop.

Further update: ffconvert may not work with all you files, or convert to the format you want. I'm again not in Bookworm, but rather in one of the NoblePup64's. It's Menu>Setup>Synaptic Package Manager offers Winff. IIRC, so will Bookworm. Suggest you try it. I just did in NoblePup64. Was able to convert an flv file. The only issue I ran into was that although I installed the Qt version the Exec line in /usr/share/applications/winff.desktop read "Exec=winff" so the application could not find its executable. Check yours (open in a text-editor) and if necessary edit the line to read "Exec=winff-qt".


Re: Cannot access HDD from Handbrake

Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2024 3:07 am
by Season2Episode10
mikeslr wrote: Mon Oct 21, 2024 2:26 pm
Season2Episode10 wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2024 12:43 am

I cannot find how to browse to the HDD (ext4) only any USB drives mounted show.
...

Please identify the link from which you downloaded the Handbrake pet. My suspicion is that --for whatever reason :? -- it was built to run as 'Spot'. Spot is a 'limited User' which can only access folders having 'spot' rather than 'root' permissions. Primarily Spot is used for web-browsers, which makes sense. The web is the mother of all malware and preventing web-facing applications from accessing everything provides some deterent. But for other applications it's a PITA. [Other Linuxes limit you to your own folder which can encompass as much room as you need, expanding automatically, but don't allow you access to the files which provide the operating system and applications, only use them].
Uninstall Handbrake. It will either have to be rebuilt or you'll need to find an alternative.
My recollection is that Handbrake is used to convert media files from one format to another. What else do you use it for? Ask for the alternatives for those functions. I'm not running Bookworm right now. But IIRC, you can use synaptic to install Winff to do conversions. Avidemux can also do that, and much more, but conversions must be done one file at a time and isn't as straight-forward. You can obtain the avidemux 2.8.1 AppImage here, https://sourceforge.net/projects/avidem ... mux/2.8.1/ Download, Right-Click, select Properties and put check-marks in all Executable boxes. Left-Click to use.

Update: Just booted into Bookworm and installed the ffconvert pet from here, https://www.forum.puppylinux.com/viewto ... 548#p30548. It can access the hard-drive on my laptop. But can't test as all my vids are on my desktop.

Further update: ffconvert may not work with all you files, or convert to the format you want. I'm again not in Bookworm, but rather in one of the NoblePup64's. It's Menu>Setup>Synaptic Package Manager offers Winff. IIRC, so will Bookworm. Suggest you try it. I just did in NoblePup64. Was able to convert an flv file. The only issue I ran into was that although I installed the Qt version the Exec line in /usr/share/applications/winff.desktop read "Exec=winff" so the application could not find its executable. Check yours (open in a text-editor) and if necessary edit the line to read "Exec=winff-qt".

https://sourceforge.net/projects/friend ... rm64-apps/

But as I previously posted it works now that I have frugaled it, only need 2 things to run, Handbrake and VLC, unless there's something that has the options VLC has for editing the controls displayed in the interface, which I so far have not found, still working on getting a portable version of VLC working, waiting for an encode to finish then restart "X" and see it's working