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I used this browser near 10 year ago in Windows, it was very good but then it's development stoped and came outdated.

Days ago, I saw there is a new version with Goanna, another engine (the same as Basilisk browser) from Mozilla family, and, just for curiosity, tried it in my StretchDog under Wine.

Surprise, surprise... pages load very quickly, Youtube? sound and video, working (while in Palemoon, none of them), that was unspected.

But what about other aspects like security protocols and so on, well, for that I had run several test like:
https://html5test.com/
http://speed-battle.com/
https://browserbench.org/
https://web.basemark.com/
https://browseraudit.com/
http://acid3.acidtests.org/

The results vary from good to very good compared with Vivaldi and Palemoon that I have installed.

My impression is that k-meleon it's a small project carried by enthusiasts, like a small Linux we all know... woof woof

One thing it's real, the browser looks old, not fashion indeed, but who cares.

I'd like if someone else can give it a try and confirm my experience.
https://o.rthost.win/kmeleon/KM76.3.1-G ... 0201031.7z

Posting from it now.

Saludos.

galbi wrote:

I used this browser near 10 year ago in Windows, it was very good but then it's development stoped and came outdated.

Yes, I used it too, in Windows XP, I liked it very much, pity indeed it stopped, and the internet at that time was very, very different from what it is nowadays....

EDIT:

I'd like if someone else can give it a try and confirm my experience.
https://o.rthost.win/kmeleon/KM76.3.1-G ... 0201031.7z

Tried it but crashes when browsing YouTube , in general, running applications through wine often doesn't work for me, but maybe I do something wrong...

Fred

I used it on XP too. Anyone remember Eyes-Only from the Murga forum? I'm sure he said he had been involved with its development at one time. I believe he had a lot of health problems though, so may not be around any more, it has been several years since he last posted.

fredx181 wrote: Wed Nov 04, 2020 7:33 pm

Tried it but crashes when browsing YouTube , in general running applications through wine often doesn't work for me, maybe I do something wrong...

I think it's about what version of Wine you're using. Mine it's:

wine-staging-linux-x86-v5.11-PlayOnLinux-x86_64

and Youtube works fine.

Well, that's definitely not quite the same K-Meleon I rmember using last time. It's starting to look a bit more modern, at long last. It runs.....mostly. Crashes quite a bit, though, so perhaps the version of WINE has got summat to do with it.

All I will say is that the old version of K-Meleon ran as steady as anything under Wine v3.3, which has been my regular WINE environment for a couple of years now. (Everything I run just 'works' OOTB with it...)

This one, however, is, um....."temperemental" is probably the best description..!

Mike.

I may spend time building security and privacy oriented web-browsers and examining other for those qualities because I think they are occasionally needed. But I rarely use them. I run frugal installs with Automatic Save turned off. On the other hand, you couldn't pay me enough to run a web-browser under wine.
To see what those who publish Wine think, read Sections 7.3 thru 7.5, https://wiki.winehq.org/FAQ#Is_Wine_mal ... patible.3F.
Dutchy (post 4) explains what you would need to do to safely run a windows program under wine, https://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthre ... -on-Fedora:
" You can stay virtually virus free by checking the binaries and isolating it from the file system (called sandboxing in winetricks) so that it cannot access your home without attacking other applications. You can also run wine in an SELinux sandbox but that can get annoying...When you are running a binary from a trustworthy source then just configure Wine such that there is no access to your file system (run winecfg and remove the link to the fs root in the stations tab) and you probably should be fine."

And that response was given on a Fedora forum. FYI, under fedora --like most Linuxes-- you operate as a User with limited permissions and file access unless you elevate yourself to Administrator. Under Puppies you operate as Root=Administrator with full authority to delete or modify everything.
I suppose its possible to locate wine and any programs you want to run in /spot or /home/spot and run wine and programs under it as spot. [I wouldn't trust just designating these as spot via menu>system>login & security and/or via a script prepending 'run-as-spot' to the executable]. And the only 'sandbox' I know to be functional is that by watchdog which includes almost the entire tarhpup operating system.
The first time wine starts it asks if you want to install gecko. If I was certain other programs didn't need it, I'd decline the opportunity.