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Hi, windows is bad I still need it because it has more app compatibility than Linux I tried Ventoy it didn't work it says "Setup Was Unable To Create a New System Partition or Locate an Existing System Partition" I tried copying the ISO to my HDD it works but it says "A required CD/DVD device driver is missing" I tried unetbootin no USB device I tried ./unetbootin /dev/sdX works but when I boot it just looping at (default) menu.

I wanna to install Windows 7
I can't use my CD player because it is broken
My laptop is a Toshiba satellite a100 32-bit only although I never run 64-bit OS on 2 GB RAM

(Sorry if my grammar is bad )

Have you tried Rufus to create your Windows installation USB? I would recommend the older version of Rufus, IIRC it is version 3.2.
That is a Windows software, so it won't help if you don't have access to a Windows computer. Also, how is your internal hard drive
partitioned? MS Windows, actually virtually every MS operating system ever, want the first partition for itself, either as a recovery
partition or the actual working partition. With Win7, you'll need to format the destination partition as NTFS. Then try your USB
installation drive.

Wiz57 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 07, 2024 2:03 pm

How is your internal hard drive
partitioned? MS Windows, actually virtually every MS operating system ever, want the first partition for itself, either as a recovery
partition or the actual working partition. With Win7, you'll need to format the destination partition as NTFS. Then try your USB
installation drive.

I tried to use gparted to make my partition here's is

/dev/sda1 NTFS 20 GB
/dev/sda2 NTFS 100 GB

My first partition (/dev/sda1) had the windows iso there
Also do I need to manually create recovery partition for windows and if how?

Try the dd command. It's what I always use and has never failed me yet. I just used it to burn an Xubuntu ISO to my flash drive

dd if=/path/to/the/filename.iso of=/dev/sd? bs=1M status=progress

if= type the correct path to the iso files
of=/dev/sd? replace "?" with the right character you want the iso copied to

jp734 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 07, 2024 10:51 pm

Try the dd command. It's what I always use and has never failed me yet. I just used it to burn an Xubuntu ISO to my flash drive

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dd if=/path/to/the/filename.iso of=/dev/sd? bs=1M status=progress

if= type the correct path to the iso files
of=/dev/sd? replace "?" with the right character you want the iso copied to

I tried but it couldn't boot it just boot to HDD which contain puppy Linux I tried to unplug too but I got this text "intel boot agent: os not found" my laptop can't boot to USB if I don't use boot menu if I tried change boot order on bios still boot to HDD not usb

Idkwhatnamehere wrote: ↑Sun Jul 07, 2024 9:51 pm

Wiz57 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 07, 2024 2:03 pm

How is your internal hard drive
partitioned? MS Windows, actually virtually every MS operating system ever, want the first partition for itself, either as a recovery
partition or the actual working partition. With Win7, you'll need to format the destination partition as NTFS. Then try your USB
installation drive.

I tried to use gparted to make my partition here's is

Code: Select all

/dev/sda1 NTFS 20 GB
/dev/sda2 NTFS 100 GB

My first partition (/dev/sda1) had the windows iso there
Also do I need to manually create recovery partition for windows and if how?

You do not need to create a recovery partition, these are normally only used by OEM manufacturer "recovery" programs. Your best bet
would be to make a bootable USB drive from another Windows machine using Rufus, although unetbootin should have worked as well,
I've used it in the past. Anyhow, create your bootable thumb drive using your Win7 ISO on it. You could also repartition your HDD to
just one NTFS partition...then boot with your newly created USB thumb drive and run Windows setup...during setup the Windows
installer may offer to reformat your HDD, let it do its thing. Later you can use Windows disk managment tools to repartition your
HDD if desired after you get Windows booting from HDD.
By the way, do you have Puppy on the HDD? Or are you booting Puppy from thumb drive? If from HDD, before you do the Windows
installation, copy your Puppy save file, if you have one, to another thumb drive for safekeeping because you need to get Windows
running first. Then reinstall your Puppy, copy the save file into the Puppy directory/folder, so that your customizations will be used
when you boot it.
Wiz

Idkwhatnamehere wrote: ↑Mon Jul 08, 2024 5:17 am

jp734 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 07, 2024 10:51 pm

Try the dd command. It's what I always use and has never failed me yet. I just used it to burn an Xubuntu ISO to my flash drive

Code: Select all

dd if=/path/to/the/filename.iso of=/dev/sd? bs=1M status=progress

if= type the correct path to the iso files
of=/dev/sd? replace "?" with the right character you want the iso copied to

I tried but it couldn't boot it just boot to HDD which contain puppy Linux I tried to unplug too but I got this text "intel boot agent: os not found" my laptop can't boot to USB if I don't use boot menu if I tried change boot order on bios still boot to HDD not usb

This seem like a secure boot or UEFI bios setting issue to me.

Wiz57 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 07, 2024 2:03 pm

would be to make a bootable USB drive from another Windows machine using Rufus, although unetbootin should have worked as well,

I tried rufus app on the play store It only show blinking underscore also etchdroid didn't work too and I tried unetbootin it says "this is not a bootable disk"

Idkwhatnamehere wrote: ↑Mon Jul 08, 2024 10:27 pm

Wiz57 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 07, 2024 2:03 pm

would be to make a bootable USB drive from another Windows machine using Rufus, although unetbootin should have worked as well,

I tried rufus app on the play store It only show blinking underscore also etchdroid didn't work too and I tried unetbootin it says "this is not a bootable disk"

Play store? Are you attempting this from an Android powered tablet, or Chromebook? I haven't used either of those, only unetbootin and Rufus from
Windows. I've used both my old WinXP netbook and this newer Dell Latitude 3190 laptop with Windows 11. Both worked well enough from Windows.
In fact, I had to reconstruct everything on the old Acer Aspire One netbook with WinXP...the recovery thing from Acer wouldn't even boot, so, I used
Rufus 3.20 on my Win11 notebook, wrote the WinXP Pro iso to a thumb drive, booted with that and reformatted the HDD, then installed WinXP Pro SP3,
to replace the WinXP Home Starter SP3 that Acer had for a recovery disk...that old netbook now runs circles around what it used to without all the
Acer crap that always wanted to run at startup. Once I had WinXP back (a long story, suffice to say my experiments resulted in a botched MBR, LOL)
then I grabbed my backup of an old Slacko Windows installer, installed grub4dos and Slacko 6.3, from which I could then download a newer version of S15Pup32,
extracted to a directory (folder in Windows speak) and added the desired boot stanzas to the menu.lst that the old Slacko63.exe installed!
I also grabbed my backups of ArchPup32, and ScPup32, older versions because the kernels and zdrvs function better with my Acers WiFi. Then I
could grab my other stuff from various archives and backup sites, and now the Acer is back in service. The first step though was using my other Windows
laptop to create a bootable USB drive. Try this, and if needed I'll help you find that Windows EXE file that installs grub4dos bootloader and the old
Slacko. I don't use Slacko6.3 much, but the installer is very good for older legacy BIOS and MBR systems. There is also floating around another Windows
EXE file that installs a bootloader, called Lick, in the Puppy forums. I haven't used it, but many have. That may be another option.
But first, let's get Windows installed and booting properly!
Wiz

Play store? Are you attempting this from an Android powered tablet, or Chromebook?

I used the app on Android phone except for the unetbootin ones.

Rufus 3.20 on my Win11 notebook, wrote the WinXP Pro iso to a thumb drive, booted with that and reformatted the HDD, then installed WinXP Pro SP3

ok I'll try to use windows XP first

Unfortunately I still can't boot it show windows XP bsod: STOP 0x0000008 maybe? Also my on my bios there isn't option for ide or ahci mode also my HDD isn't from the OEM but it is from my old broken laptop which is Acer aspire one does it affect too?

I have no idea on win7 iso, BUT one can put win10 or win11 iso on Ventoy usb and boot from that to install windows. It will error unless the Ventoy storage partition is fat32. But yea you can install win10/win11 that way without Rufus or dd or whatever or burning iso to a dvd. Though honestly Rufus is probably best bet. Remember you cant install windows from a linux partition. It will error out and tell you its missing a driver, cause natively windows cant use linux partitions. Used to be a workaround driver least for ext2 but no idea if it still exists or if it works.
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'And yes there are so many variables anymore. Used to be far easier. Now you have all the windows security stuff and mbr/gpt and legacy vs UEFI. So you really need to be specific as to exactly your hardware and what you are trying to do. Making people guess is probably not going to get you the results you desire. Oh and yes is this 32bit or 64bit win7? I have dealt with 64bit UEFI for so long now that I forget some of this stuff.

Now if you are trying to install win7 to computer from that era, as somebody else suggested, keep copy of Puppy save file then just install it and let it do its thing however it wants to do it. Oh usually helps at beginning of windows setup to just nuke all partitions and then tell it to use the whole thing. CAuse thats what it wants to do, designed to do, it wants to be first in line and expects to be the ONLY operating system. then reinstall Puppy or whatever linux you want. Yes you can use LICK, sometimes works better than others. Or use Gparted to recreate linux partition. But I would just let Puppy install its own GRUB2 stuff, it can coexist with windows bootloader, though guess depends which Puppy, some dont come with GRUB2. And if you are wanting Grub4Dos, let somebody else walk you through that. I havent used it in long time.

Idkwhatnamehere wrote: ↑Fri Jul 12, 2024 2:05 pm

Unfortunately I still can't boot it show windows XP bsod: STOP 0x0000008 maybe? Also my on my bios there isn't option for ide or ahci mode also my HDD isn't from the OEM but it is from my old broken laptop which is Acer aspire one does it affect too?

The hard drive shouldnt matter long as its supported by your computer, meaning if you need a PATA drive then use a PATA drive, if SATA, use a SATA drive, some computer could do either/or. Like others have said if you have a blank thumbdrive (one you dont care if its erased) then put Rufus on some windows computer (doesnt install, just runs as an exe file) and create an install thumbdrive. Since this is old probably want Rufus option of mbr partition table. Otherwise once the windows installer boots, nuke the partitions on internal hard drive with the windows installer tool and let it do its thing.

Or buy, beg, borrow a usb dvd rom and boot windows install dvd from that. Pretty sure win7 install still fit on one dvd. Thinking maybe problem is you are used to installing via a cd/dvd and so this is new to you? Similar process, but different tools.

Thanks to all, I finally can install windows the method I used is

Boot to windows 7 iso using ventoy wimboot mode(I use tiny u btw)

Then open CMD prompt

Then type

diskpart

list dis

sel dis (my USB)

clean

create partition primary size=5000

or without size

create part primary

format fs=NTFS quick

assign

active

Then boot to Linux
Copying my mounted iso into usb
Edit: wrong order