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UPDATE 04Sep24 - Small (174mb) to replace Micro & Mini. Has no Xine or Abiword/Gnumeric. .Releasing soon

ozsouth wrote: ↑Sun Jun 30, 2024 1:45 pm

Netsurf is very basic & will let you view some sites (including this forum), but don't log in to anything - likely can't log out.
It will let you go to the Firefox site & download that. Maybe other browsers?..

Later: greengeek has found that Opera browser can be downloaded from Netsurf,
but you have to click the "if your download does not start" button.

I am currently comparing a number of browsers to see which one is easiest to get hold of via Netsurf.
I will report in more detail later - but for now I will recommend Waterfox.

Of all the browsers I tried - waterfox is the easiest to get running.

Use Netsurf to google "waterfox"
Click the "download" link that you can see under the waterfox heading
Scroll down to the Linux version and download it. (86MB)
Look in /root for the downloaded file - rightclick it and select pextract.
If desired move the resulting waterfox directory wherever you want it.
(If you have a savefile you may wish to move it out of /root)
Go inside that directory - just click "waterfox" binary to run.

Other browsers were either significantly bigger downloads, or required special attention to get running such as changing permissions or setting run-as-spot or sandbox parameters - or in some cases you could not get an active download link direct from Netsurf.

I plan to detail these other browsers after a bit more testing - but for now Waterfox is a standout for ease of use (and this newest version is much better than previous ones)

Browser download & testing:

ozsouth wrote: ↑Sun Jun 30, 2024 1:45 pm

Netsurf is very basic & will let you view some sites....It will let you go to the Firefox site & download that.

Unfortunately I failed to find a Firefox download link via Netsurf - but here are some other browsers I was able to download using the Netsurf search bar and then install and trial on Fossa64-Mini.

By going direct to the manufacturers website I was assured of getting latest versions:
(Sorry for the long post!)

Firefox:
Comment: I could not seem to find the right search term to enter into Netsurf.
I could only find a link for 32bit Firefox
*** EDIT ***Eventually I did get to a page that lists all languages and was able to download Firefox from here:
https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/all/
After extraction it runs well just by clicking on the Firefox binary - but unfortunately I couldnt get any sound out of it so I guess the binary needs to be run via apulse etc.
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Waterfox:
Comment: Seems a very easy browser to get started with & behaves quite well although I have no idea of how secure it may be.
Google "waterfox"
Download, then extract. If desired move waterfox directory wherever you want it.
In that directory - just click "waterfox" binary to run.
(86MB download)
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Opera
Comment: Easy browser to download and install. I like Opera, although not so keen that downloads go into /root/spot/downloads
Google: "opera download"
Click "Download now"
Scroll down to "If your download does not start automatically please click here"
(106MB download)
Click on the deb to install opera.
Run opera from Menu / internet. Easy.
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Pocket Browser:
Comment: I like this quirky browser for it's lightweight feel. No idea about security level tho'.
Google: "Pocket studios pocket-browser" (if don't specify "pocket studios" you will get other unrelated stuff)
Scroll down and click "download"
Select Appimage
(96MB download)
Change Appimage permissions to executable.
Open terminal and issue following command:
./pocket-browser-1.8.0.AppImage --no-sandbox
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Ungoogled Chromium:
Comment - this is one of my favourite browsers although the lack of search function from the url bar is annoying till you get used to it.
I would rate this as a good secure browser.
Google: "ungoogled chromium download"
There are 3 different choices here:

1) If you want Appimage:
(172MB download)
Click "Linux Appimage 64bit" to save.
Need to make the Appimage executable, then run via terminal as follows:

./ungoogled-chromium_126.0.6478.126-1.AppImage --no-sandbox

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2) If you want "portable" version:
Click "Portable Linux 64bit"
(122MB download) Rightclick and choose pextract (expands to 567MB).
To run: Open a terminal in the extracted directory and enter the following:
./chrome --no-sandbox
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3) If you want "unportable" version:
Click "Debian/Ubuntu (unportable) 64bit"
(63MB download)
This was tempting due to the small download but I found there were many suboptions here to figure out.
It seemed to need libpulse.so.0 or running via #apulse
... but even then I still had problems with missing libs.
May still be worth pursuing for the adventurous.
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Slimjet:
Comment: I have enjoyed slimjet's features in the past - but potentially runs the cpu hotter than other browsers. YMMV.
Google: "slimjet browser linux download"
Scroll down and click Linux 64bit deb package.
Click the "If download doesnt start automatically click here" message.
(94MB download) Click to install deb
FlashPeak Slimjet appears in internet menu but must be run manually with run-as-spot as follows:
run-as-spot flashpeak-slimjet
(All lower case and dont forget the hyphen)
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Midori:
No active link accessible via Netsurf on Astiango website
(I use this browser in pet form and love it)
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Vivaldi:
No active link accessible from Netsurf
(Dropdown box did not allow accesss to Linux version)
Have to source it some other way.
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EDIT :LibreWolf available here:
viewtopic.php?t=11597

@greengeek

Vivaldi:
No active link accessible from Netsurf
(Dropdown box did not allow accesss to Linux version)
Have to source it some other way.
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Search reveals:

Where to download Vivaldi for Linux:

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Answer
To download Vivaldi for Linux, you can follow these steps:

Go to the official Vivaldi download page at https://vivaldi.com/download/.

On the download page, you'll find several options for Linux distributions:

Linux DEB 64bit (for Ubuntu, Debian, and related distributions)
Linux RPM 64bit (for Fedora, Red Hat, and related distributions)
Linux DEB ARM and ARM64 (for ARM-based devices)
Linux RPM ARM and ARM64 (for ARM-based devices on RPM-based distributions)

Select the appropriate version for your Linux distribution and system architecture.

Click on the download button for your chosen version to start the download.

Once you've downloaded the installer file, you can install Vivaldi using one of these methods:

Graphical method: Double-click the downloaded .deb or .rpm file to open it with your system's software center, then click "Install"

Command-line method for Ubuntu/Debian:

text
sudo dpkg -i vivaldi-stable_<version>_amd64.deb

Replace <version> with the actual version number of the downloaded file

For a more up-to-date installation, you can add the Vivaldi repository to your system:

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wget -qO- https://repo.vivaldi.com/archive/linux_signing_key.pub | gpg --dearmor | sudo dd of=/usr/share/keyrings/vivaldi-browser.gpg
echo "deb [signed-by=/usr/share/keyrings/vivaldi-browser.gpg arch=$(dpkg --print-architecture)] https://repo.vivaldi.com/archive/deb/ stable main" | sudo dd of=/etc/apt/sources.list.d/vivaldi-archive.list
sudo apt update && sudo apt install vivaldi-stable

This method ensures you'll receive updates through your system's package manager

By following these steps, you should be able to download and install Vivaldi on your Linux system.

Hope this helps.

Chelsea80 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 16, 2024 12:39 am

Answer
To download Vivaldi for Linux, you can follow these steps:

Go to the official Vivaldi download page at https://vivaldi.com/download/.

On the download page, you'll find several options for Linux distributions:
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Hope this helps.

Hi Chelsea, thanks for the link.
Unfortunately it seems that Netsurf (the inbuilt browser in Mini) is unable to process that link correctly - so it cannot download the Linux version.

There is probably some other more direct link it would be able to use - but I just have not found it yet.

The "sudo", "dpkg" & "wget" stuff may or not work within Mini - I suspect not but I don't know for sure.

Cheers!

@ozsouth - just want to say that I think this is actually quite an astounding little pup !

I have been able to burn it to a mini-CD and have not yet found a laptop (with CD drive...) that it can't boot.

All of the following laptops booted successfully and in every case the ethernet port and wifi were found ootb and connected perfectly:

HP Pavilion dv5 "entertainment PC" (2GB ram)
Toshiba Satellite S500 (4GB)
Toshiba Satellite L500 (8GB)
HP Elitebook 2540p (4GB)
HP Elitebook 8440p (8GB) (These elitebooks are actually UEFI machines - I assume set for Legacy boot)
Compaq Presario CQ60 (3GB)
Toshiba Portege M700 (2GB)
Acer eMachines Intel Atom N450 (1GB) (This one booted fine when I selected RAMonly/nopupsave but did not have enough get up and go to do anything much via any decent sized browser that I installed)

I will add more to the list as I get to try them.

EDIT : Also boots and connects with:
Asus M51V (3GB)
Lenovo Thinkpad x200 (CD drive in docking station) (3GB ram)

Kudos for a well trimmed yet highly functional puppy! Definitely my "go-to" test bed for all of my machines.

Mini v2 released. A few small tweaks. See 1st post

V3 released. See 1st post.

@greengeek :-

Heh.

Mini-size.....mini-ISO.....mini-disc! I like it. Yeah!

Mike.

ozsouth wrote: ↑Thu Aug 08, 2024 12:19 am

V3 released. See 1st post.

Thanks! mini covers all the bases I need for a solid minimal install. Running V3 with the same LXDE ydrv I've used for med and mid. Not much added there other than geany and the usual PCManFM/LXDE mix. Took a look at micro but I need spot and the additional size saving isn't really much since I use all portable browsers, email, office stuff.

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LXDE addon (needs slight rename):
https://sourceforge.net/projects/lxpup/ ... s/download

v3f released - minor fixes & a bit more firmware. See 1st post.

My version 3 install updated to version 3f. Continues to run well, -mini covers all the bases I need. I had tried -micro and as you said a bit too much was missing.

Thanks,

Small (174mb) to be released soon. Mini is discontinued.