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Accessing Headless FatDog in Local Network from Android?
Posted: Sun May 19, 2024 4:09 pm
by Neo_78
I would like to quickly access a headless FatDog system in my local network from an Android tablet from time to time so that I don't have to pull out a laptop.
Are there any add-free, open-source applications available for Android to securely access a system via VNC or SSH? Ideally without having to install F-Droid...
To be honest, I am getting totally tired of the Google Play Store, but I don't see any real open-source alternatives to run a real Linux system on a mobile device in a safe way. From a compatibility perspective it's incredibly hard to find suitable mobile hardware to install a custom rom. Is Android dead from an open-source perspective?
Looking forward to your ideas and recommendations!
Re: Accessing Headless FatDog in Local Network from Android?
Posted: Sun May 19, 2024 9:16 pm
by p310don
I use realVNC all the time to look at Fatdog from my android, works fine.
Re: Accessing Headless FatDog in Local Network from Android?
Posted: Sun May 19, 2024 11:51 pm
by Trapster
Try JuiceSSH for cli access.
Re: Accessing Headless FatDog in Local Network from Android?
Posted: Mon May 20, 2024 3:48 am
by dr__Dan
Neo_78 wrote: Sun May 19, 2024 4:09 pm
Ideally without having to install F-Droid...
No expertise on the main subject, but I have used F-Droid apps over the years (without ever installing the F-Droid app itself). Never had any issue.
When I can get on top of various current demands, I hope to figure out Linux as a phone. Last I checked, it is not a viable option in the US until they get VoLTE functioning. After that, figuring out hardware that is budget-friendly is likely to be a challenge.
Dan
Re: Accessing Headless FatDog in Local Network from Android?
Posted: Mon May 20, 2024 12:49 pm
by Neo_78
It sounds like realVNC is going to adopt a paid subscription model soon. JuiceSSH looks great, but the app is unfortunately not available for new Android versions.
How do you install an app that is listed on F-Droid without having to actually install the F-Droid-App @dr__Dan ? Are there any specific apps that you have tried? The Termux app looks useful:
https://f-droid.org/packages/com.termux/
A real Linux OS on a mobile device that can actually be used as a telephone would be great. But there is probably not a lot of interest in the industry and too much hardware variety in the market. That's comparable to finding suitable hardware for running open-source router software like OpenWRT...
Re: Accessing Headless FatDog in Local Network from Android?
Posted: Mon May 20, 2024 10:02 pm
by p310don
It sounds like realVNC is going to adopt a paid subscription model soon
More research required, but my understanding is they're doing a remote app a bit like teamviewer, which is paid for. for realVNC lite it is free, which will still allow you to access your own stuff on your own LAN
Re: Accessing Headless FatDog in Local Network from Android?
Posted: Tue May 21, 2024 2:35 pm
by dr__Dan
Neo_78 wrote: Mon May 20, 2024 12:49 pmHow do you install an app that is listed on F-Droid without having to actually install the F-Droid-App @dr__Dan ? Are there any specific apps that you have tried? The Termux app looks useful:
https://f-droid.org/packages/com.termux/
I followed the link, and scrolled down to the version descriptions. At the bottom of each, there is an APK link. Select, download, install.
dd-wrt here. Linux phone already exists, just "not ready for prime time".
Dan
Re: Accessing Headless FatDog in Local Network from Android?
Posted: Wed May 22, 2024 8:24 pm
by Neo_78
There are a couple of interesting open-source apps on F-Droid but I am unsure if this source can be trusted. To my understanding Google Play Store does not force you to sell your app or run ads. So I am wondering why an author would choose F-Droid over the Play Store to publish your app...
PinePhone seems to be a cool Linux project with the right price point:
https://pine64.org/devices/pinephone/
Re: Accessing Headless FatDog in Local Network from Android?
Posted: Thu May 23, 2024 5:58 am
by dr__Dan
@Neo_78, Not everyone has unqualified love for Google.
A quick search for F-Droid didn't raise any trust issues. Do your research, make your decision.
Re: Accessing Headless FatDog in Local Network from Android?
Posted: Thu May 23, 2024 2:40 pm
by jamesbond
Adding to @dr__Dan:
Neo_78 wrote: Wed May 22, 2024 8:24 pm
There are a couple of interesting open-source apps on F-Droid but I am unsure if this source can be trusted.
All the apps listed in F-Droid is open source.
You don't trust them, fine, grab the source and build it yourself
To my understanding Google Play Store does not force you to sell your app or run ads.
Correct.
So I am wondering why an author would choose F-Droid over the Play Store to publish your app...
I assume you have never published an app to Google Play Store, because if you do, you won't be asking this question. As an aside, note that some F-Droid apps are published also in Play Store as well (by its own author). Make of that as you will.
It does look interesting.