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5.8, April 30
Blog announcement and download links:

"EasyOS Kirkstone-series version 5.8 released"
https://bkhome.org/news/202404/easyos-k ... eased.html

The previous release was 5.7, discussion thread here:

"EasyOS Kirkstone-series version 5.7"
viewtopic.php?t=9911

I clicked the "Update" icon on the 5.7 desktop and it updated to 5.8! Wow, the "delta" file is some 680 MB.

Yep I did an upgrade from 5.7 to 5.8 and lost all of my bookmarks from Chromium which is my fault because I got lazy and didn't copy them to a USB Flash Drive like I normally do but that's okay I can find them again.

The 5.8 upgrade went without problems and works great as far as I can tell absolutely no problems as of yet.

Thanks Barry K.

tammi806 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2024 6:40 pm

Yep I did an upgrade from 5.7 to 5.8 and lost all of my bookmarks from Chromium which is my fault because I got lazy and didn't copy them to a USB Flash Drive like I normally do but that's okay I can find them again.

The 5.8 upgrade went without problems and works great as far as I can tell absolutely no problems as of yet.

Thanks Barry K.

That's an interesting point that you have raised. Firefox can import bookmarks, but doesn't look in /home/chromium
I wonder if we can fix that?
Like, maybe, copy some chromium files into /home/firefox?

Good morning,
easyos update from 5.7 to 5.8 without problem. Then I downloaded chrome and tried putting it on desktop. But after a restart, chrome was gone from the desktop. Already encountered this problem with the first QV it seems to me.
For the rest, everything is fine, easyos 5.8 is all OK.

LHESTIA wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2024 8:56 am

Good morning,
easyos update from 5.7 to 5.8 without problem. Then I downloaded chrome and tried putting it on desktop. But after a restart, chrome was gone from the desktop. Already encountered this problem with the first QV it seems to me.
For the rest, everything is fine, easyos 5.8 is all OK.

That problem in QV was fixed (woofQV), and the fix was also applied to EasyOS (woofQ).

This is what /root/.xinitrc had before the fix, line 50:

if [ -f /root/Choices/ROX-Filer/PuppyPinBACKUP ];then
 touch /root/Choices/ROX-Filer/PuppyPin
 #if [ "$(grep 'defaultbrowser' /root/Choices/ROX-Filer/PuppyPin)" == "" ];then
 grep -q 'www' /root/Choices/ROX-Filer/PuppyPin #20230423 change test.
 if [ $? -ne 0 ];then
  cp -a -f /root/Choices/ROX-Filer/PuppyPinBACKUP /root/Choices/ROX-Filer/PuppyPin
 fi
fi
cp -a -f /root/Choices/ROX-Filer/PuppyPin /root/Choices/ROX-Filer/PuppyPinBACKUP

I think it was Caramel who reported that testing for "www" is wrong for non-English users.
So the code was changed to testing "defaultbrowser" exists in PuppyPin.

I'm wondering if, in your case, there was a /root/.xinitrc in the session, that is, you edited it at some stage, so the latest in easy.sfs isn't coming through on top.

The other thing that could be wrong is you don't have the text "defaultbrowser" in /root/Choices/ROX-Filer/PuppyPin

Just did the update from 5.7 to 5.8 on my spare desktop that runs Easy on the hard drive. No issues. Worked as expected. Thanks, Barry!

Ok, have figured out how to import bookmarks, etc., from chromium into firefox, after updating to Easy 5.8.

1.
Drag-copy /home/chromium/.config/chromium into /home/firefox/.config/

2.
Open a terminal in /home/firefox/.config, then:
# chown -R firefox:firefox chromium

3.
In firefox, go to Settings, General tab, click "Import data..." button

4.
Delete /home/firefox/.config/chromium

BarryK wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2024 2:10 pm

Ok, have figured out how to import bookmarks, etc., from chromium into firefox, after updating to Easy 5.8.

1.
Drag-copy /home/chromium/.config/chromium into /home/firefox/.config/

2.
Open a terminal in /home/firefox/.config, then:
# chown -R firefox:firefox chromium

3.
In firefox, go to Settings, General tab, click "Import data..." button

4.
Delete /home/firefox/.config/chromium

I'll drag my spare desktop out of the closet and give that a try and see what happens.

Thanks Barry K.

WARNING WARNING WARNING

If you have a AMD gpu, updating to 5.8 might result in a black screen.

The problem seems to be the 5.15.157 kernel.

I updated Easy from 5.6.7 to 5.8 on my Acer Aspire3 with AMD Radeon gpu, and got a black screen. can't even get a console.

Booted 5.8 from usb-stick, got black screen.

Booted 5.7 from usb-stick, works.

So, for now, if you have an AMD gpu, maybe test boot it on a usb-stick first. if works, then should be ok to update.

If you have already updated and got the black screen, like me (I'm running 5.7 booted from usb right now), then I will have to figure out how to recover. It is almost 1am here, have to stop for the night. Will get back to about 10 hours from now.

This happens every now and again, a new kernel version stuffs things up.

BarryK wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2024 3:31 pm

WARNING WARNING WARNING

If you have a AMD gpu, updating to 5.8 might result in a black screen.

The problem seems to be the 5.15.157 kernel.

I updated Easy from 5.6.7 to 5.8 on my Acer Aspire3 with AMD Radeon gpu, and got a black screen. can't even get a console.

Booted 5.8 from usb-stick, got black screen.

Booted 5.7 from usb-stick, works.

So, for now, if you have an AMD gpu, maybe test boot it on a usb-stick first. if works, then should be ok to update.

If you have already updated and got the black screen, like me (I'm running 5.7 booted from usb right now), then I will have to figure out how to recover. It is almost 1am here, have to stop for the night. Will get back to about 10 hours from now.

This happens every now and again, a new kernel version stuffs things up.

Have persisted a bit longer before going to bed. Have fixed it.

I booted 5.7 on usb-stick, copied vmlinuz and /usr/lib/modules/5.15.148 to the .session folder in the Easy installation.
That fixed it.

Bad kernel developers

Sometime later, Friday arvo, will get back to it, find out which kernel version stuffs things up. 5.15.148 is ok.
I suppose could just release Easy 5.8.1 with that kernel.

BarryK wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2024 3:31 pm

WARNING WARNING WARNING

If you have a AMD gpu, updating to 5.8 might result in a black screen.

The problem seems to be the 5.15.157 kernel.

I updated Easy from 5.6.7 to 5.8 on my Acer Aspire3 with AMD Radeon gpu, and got a black screen. can't even get a console.

Booted 5.8 from usb-stick, got black screen.

Booted 5.7 from usb-stick, works.

So, for now, if you have an AMD gpu, maybe test boot it on a usb-stick first. if works, then should be ok to update.

If you have already updated and got the black screen, like me (I'm running 5.7 booted from usb right now), then I will have to figure out how to recover. It is almost 1am here, have to stop for the night. Will get back to about 10 hours from now.

This happens every now and again, a new kernel version stuffs things up.

OOOPS, missed this post. I did the update, which actually on first boot after update, it booted OK. After my initial updates I rebooted and it can't start X. I'll look at it again tomorrow, probably rolling back to 5.7.

I looked briefly at the kernel changelog, seems like lots of amd gpu related commits before kernel 5.15.154, so I compiled 5.15.153 last night.
No good, still get black screen.
Have to go further back.

Running on AMD Ryzen Mobile 3700U is ok.

gc

I found the culprit, the 5.15.150 kernel:

https://bkhome.org/news/202405/kernel-5 ... d-gpu.html

Easy 5.8.1 is released, with the 5.15.149 kernel:

https://bkhome.org/news/202405/easyos-k ... eased.html

I have added "Download latest Chromium" to the menu, as Firefox is now the builtin:

...however, perhaps that is not the best way to go. There was already Chrome. Chromium does have less Google stuff in it, but even so. Perhaps I should have added a download for Ungoogled-Chromium.

It downloads latest revision number, not by version:

...so that is bleeding-edge.

The update 5.7 to 5.8 was without apparent problem (Processor AMD E-350 APU with Radeon HD Graphics)
But the server X crashes when the kirskstone container is launched.

Update 5.8 to 5.8.1. Same problem with the kirkstone container (no problem with the booksworm container previously installed)

Caramel wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2024 2:38 pm

The update 5.7 to 5.8 was without apparent problem (Processor AMD E-350 APU with Radeon HD Graphics)
But the server X crashes when the kirskstone container is launched.

Update 5.8 to 5.8.1. Same problem with the kirkstone container (no problem with the booksworm container previously installed)

I updated the installation in my Lenovo desktop PC to 5.8.1, and the kirkstone container works.

What happens if you launch it from a terminal:

# ec-chroot kirkstone easy

It seems that the problem with 5.15.150+ kernel is due to a commit that affects only the Picasso/Raven AMD GPU.
At least so it seems, after examining the changelog. I have contacted the kernel developer who submitted that patch.

BarryK wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2024 4:31 pm

What happens if you launch it from a terminal:

Code: Select all

# ec-chroot kirkstone easy

It seems that the problem with 5.15.150+ kernel is due to a commit that affects only the Picasso/Raven AMD GPU.
At least so it seems, after examining the changelog. I have contacted the kernel developer who submitted that patch.

Crash again.
The container was installed in a previous version. I will uninstall and reinstall it

EDIT : Uninstall was a bad idea. I did not know how to reinstall. So I copied the directory kirkstone in containers from another installation.
No crash but the launch with black screen was rather long.

Caramel wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2024 4:59 pm

BarryK wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2024 4:31 pm

What happens if you launch it from a terminal:

Code: Select all

# ec-chroot kirkstone easy

It seems that the problem with 5.15.150+ kernel is due to a commit that affects only the Picasso/Raven AMD GPU.
At least so it seems, after examining the changelog. I have contacted the kernel developer who submitted that patch.

Crash again.
The container was installed in a previous version. I will uninstall and reinstall it

EDIT : Uninstall was a bad idea. I did not know how to reinstall. So I copied the directory kirkstone in containers from another installation.
No crash but the launch with black screen was rather long.

In Easy Version Control, you can erase a container, which takes it back to pristine state.

I tested it, took a snapshot of kirkstone container first, then erase. Then tested the container starts ok after being erased.

Having previously updated 5.7 to 5.8 but not rebooted (because I have an AMD processor,) I updated 5.7 to 5.8.1, then got everything how I wanted it and used the Save icon on the desktop to save before rebooting. When 5.7 was shutting down, it asked if I wanted to save. I said no, since I had just done it manually. When EasyOS began to boot, it said something about deferring the previous saved session or something like that, then just sat there for a while,. So I poked the reboot button on the computer. It booted to the same note about deferring, but this time quickly got past it and reported a lot of filesystem errors, which it either fixed or ignored. Eventually it came to a desktop and here I am again.

Flash wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2024 3:50 am

When EasyOS began to boot, it said something about deferring the previous saved session or something like that, then just sat there for a while,. So I poked the reboot button on the computer. It booted to the same note about deferring, but this time quickly got past it and reported a lot of filesystem errors, which it either fixed or ignored. Eventually it came to a desktop and here I am again.

Er no, you should have waited.
Your installation may now be corrupted, so might be a good idea to roll back to a previous snapshot.

OT: Thanks @BarryK for your blog post about Gittyup. It's a nice tool. I previously only used "gitk" and "git gui" but nice to have something a bit more integrated. I built version 1.4.0 (the latest git master), and it can use system's openssl 3.x. Still need to use its own (patched) libgit2, though. Sorry about polluting, back to EasyOS now.

jamesbond wrote: ↑Sun May 05, 2024 3:41 pm

OT: Thanks @BarryK for your blog post about Gittyup. It's a nice tool. I previously only used "gitk" and "git gui" but nice to have something a bit more integrated. I built version 1.4.0 (the latest git master), and it can use system's openssl 3.x. Still need to use its own (patched) libgit2, though. Sorry about polluting, back to EasyOS now.

Ooops, I also downloaded from master branch. Didn't notice the version bump to 1.4.0.
Also didn't notice it supports system openssl 3.x -- I only looked at the internal source and that is 1.1.x, so I assumed that version would also be required for system.

More utilities compiled for Kirkstone:

https://bkhome.org/news/202405/lots-of- ... stone.html

BarryK wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2024 3:52 pm

More utilities compiled for Kirkstone:

https://bkhome.org/news/202405/lots-of- ... stone.html

Nice list, thanks.
dhex is an interesting find.
I've been scratching my head to find a "binary diff" and dhex is exactly what I need.

Wow how cool is this.
When I updated from 5.7 to 5.8 I lost all of my Chromium bookmarks.

I updated from 5.8 to 5,8.1 rebooted and my Chromium icon was on my desktop.
I tried it and of coarse it didn't work so I went to the menu and saw I could download the latest version of Chromium so I did.

I tried the Chromium icon Chromium opened and so I went to All Bookmarks and low and behold all of my lost bookmarks found there way back.

Barry K Thanks for adding the Chromium browser download ability You Rock.

Thanks again Barry K.

Oh yeah everything seems to be working great.

An update about the black screen with kernel 5.15.150+

A kernel developer advised me how to use "git bisect" to track down which commit it causing the problem.
Which I did, and posted the result to them yesterday.

Waiting to see if they will do anything about it.

I'll post the steps I went through to isolate the offending commit, to my blog, after they have acted on my report.

tammi806 wrote: ↑Thu May 09, 2024 11:37 pm

Wow how cool is this.
When I updated from 5.7 to 5.8 I lost all of my Chromium bookmarks.

I updated from 5.8 to 5,8.1 rebooted and my Chromium icon was on my desktop.
I tried it and of coarse it didn't work so I went to the menu and saw I could download the latest version of Chromium so I did.

I tried the Chromium icon Chromium opened and so I went to All Bookmarks and low and behold all of my lost bookmarks found there way back.

Barry K Thanks for adding the Chromium browser download ability You Rock.

Thanks again Barry K.

Oh yeah everything seems to be working great.

Yes, the "new" chromium uses the same /home/chromium home folder, so finds everything still there from before, including bookmarks.

I am finding Firefox too annoying to use, going back to Chromium builtin:

https://bkhome.org/news/202405/easyos-g ... iltin.html