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Hello all,

Have just installed S15Pup64 v22.12 on an old Compaq Presario C700 laptop.

All seems ok however at every boot the Quick Setup window appears.

Most of the fields seem to have retained my changed values, however the checkboxes "Run internet apps as spot" and "Change root password" return to their default unticked value.

I have 2 questions:

1) How do I ensure that any selections I make are retained in Quick Setup?

2) How do I stop Quick Setup from appearing at every boot up? I only want it to appear once, configure my preferences, then never appear again.

S15Pup64 v22.12 is installed on my hard drive alongside Windows Vista and Windows Recovery partitions.

Regards,

fbagnato

Welcome @fbagnato , are you saving your session when you shutdown Puppy?
Do you know where it is being saved to if you are? May need a small edit to your menu.lst if using grub4dos, or grub.cfg
if using grub2. It might help us if you could post the contents of those files, assuming you use grub4dos or grub2.
If using something else to boot, let us know.
Wiz

Hello @Wiz57

Thanks for your reply and your welcome

It prompted me to save the session the first couple of times I shutdown.

I saw briefly the first time that the session wasn't saved.

It is not prompting me to save the session now, but when the puppy is booting I see the following message:

Loading savefolder /s15pup6422.12frugal/s15pup64save [sda3]...

When I shutdown I briefly see a message saying:

s15pup64save mounted directly top layer, session already saved

Re grub I just did a standard install which installed grub4dos.

The menu options are all there for the 2 Windows partitions and Puppy partition.

The contents of my menu.lst are as follows:

# menu.lst produced by grub4dosconfig-v1.9.3
color white/blue black/cyan white/black cyan/black
#splashimage=/splash.xpm
timeout 10
default 0

# Frugal installed Puppy

title Puppy s15pup64 22.12 (sda3/s15pup6422.12frugal)
  find --set-root uuid () 6c2223c5-d95c-40cf-bbe2-43097fc1dccf
  kernel /s15pup6422.12frugal/vmlinuz  pdrv=6c2223c5-d95c-40cf-bbe2-43097fc1dccf  psubdir=/s15pup6422.12frugal pmedia=atahd pfix=fsck
  initrd /s15pup6422.12frugal/initrd.gz

# Windows
# this entry searches Windows on the HDD and boot it up
title Windows\nBoot up Windows if installed
  errorcheck off
  find --set-root --ignore-floppies --ignore-cd  /bootmgr
  chainloader /bootmgr
  find --set-root --ignore-floppies --ignore-cd  /ntldr
  chainloader /ntldr
  find --set-root --ignore-floppies --ignore-cd   /io.sys
  chainloader /io.sys
  errorcheck on

# Advanced Menu
title Advanced menu
  configfile /menu-advanced.lst
  commandline

I don't see the 2 Windows partitions here so maybe I have the wrong file? The menu.lst came from the 1st partition (Windows Vista) root folder.

Should I just install S15Pup64 again?

Regards,

fbagnato

Hello @Wiz57

I reinstalled S15Pup64 v22.12 and this time added the line in the grub2dos that was suggested by the install.

The same problem is occurring, the Quick Setup is being shown at every boot.

Following is the original text:

title Puppy s15pup64 22.12 (sda3/s15pup6422.12frugal)
  find --set-root uuid () 6c2223c5-d95c-40cf-bbe2-43097fc1dccf
  kernel /s15pup6422.12frugal/vmlinuz  pdrv=6c2223c5-d95c-40cf-bbe2-43097fc1dccf  psubdir=/s15pup6422.12frugal pmedia=atahd pfix=fsck
  initrd /s15pup6422.12frugal/initrd.gz

So following is the text I replaced:

title Puppy Linux - S15Pup64 22.12 frugal in sda3 dir s15pup6422.12frugal
#root (hd0,0) <-- GRUB legacy, ex: (hd1,0), etc..
find --set-root uuid () 63e055c9-2868-422b-a256-fa8502d3559a
kernel /s15pup6422.12frugal/vmlinuz pmedia=atahd psubdir=s15pup6422.12frugal
initrd /s15pup6422.12frugal/initrd.gz

The following is my current menu.lst file:

# menu.lst produced by grub4dosconfig-v1.9.3
color white/blue black/cyan white/black cyan/black
#splashimage=/splash.xpm
timeout 10
default 0

# Frugal installed Puppy

title Puppy Linux - S15Pup64 22.12 frugal in sda3 dir s15pup6422.12frugal
#root (hd0,0) <-- GRUB legacy, ex: (hd1,0), etc..
find --set-root uuid () 63e055c9-2868-422b-a256-fa8502d3559a
kernel /s15pup6422.12frugal/vmlinuz pmedia=atahd psubdir=s15pup6422.12frugal
initrd /s15pup6422.12frugal/initrd.gz

# Windows
# this entry searches Windows on the HDD and boot it up
title Windows\nBoot up Windows if installed
  errorcheck off
  find --set-root --ignore-floppies --ignore-cd  /bootmgr
  chainloader /bootmgr
  find --set-root --ignore-floppies --ignore-cd  /ntldr
  chainloader /ntldr
  find --set-root --ignore-floppies --ignore-cd   /io.sys
  chainloader /io.sys
  errorcheck on

# Advanced Menu
title Advanced menu
  configfile /menu-advanced.lst
  commandline

Regards,

fbagnato

Another interesting thing..............

I tried to download and install the Palemoon browser.

It downloads the file but when double clicking the file, nothing happens.

Hello @Wiz57

It's ok I got it fixed.

Seemed to be if I completed the Quick Setup from the Live CD, then performed the install onto the hard drive and tried to save the session, the problem occurred.

What worked:

Boot from the CD, ignore the Quick Setup, perform the install onto the hard drive, shutdown (NOT saving the session).

Boot up from the hard drive with the freshly installed Puppy, perform the Quick Setup, Shutdown but this time save the session.

Thanks for your help Wiz57!

Regards,

fbagnato

That's great that you've got your savefile working! Now, my advice for Palemoon...what I did was use peebee's "get web browser",
which downloads an SFS...just click on that in Rox Filer and it should be able to be installed. OK, once you get that one, then
head over to Steve Pusser's Palemoon builds, he keeps fairly new versions https://software.opensuse.org/download. ... e=palemoon I use the Debian builds of GTK2 on my S15Pup32 bit...I grab the latest
he offers for oldest Debian (currently Debian 10) you'll want the 64 bit one listed as palemoonXXX_amd64.deb...download that
and click on it in Rox filer, it will install and update the older SFS you installed earlier!
Let us know how things go!
Wiz

EDIT to add...There is NO NEED to download the palemoon.sfs from the get browser menu...
just grab the deb from Steve Pusser's website and install the deb, you should be all set...
I forgot that you don't need the sfs first, that's how I started with Palemoon back in Slacko days!
My bad!

fbagnato wrote: Wed Mar 06, 2024 12:03 pm

I don't see the 2 Windows partitions here so maybe I have the wrong file? The menu.lst came from the 1st partition (Windows Vista) root folder.

Nope, that's perfectly normal. Puppy's build of Grub4DOS modified the source code somewhat to allow searching two layers deep for a bootable kernel - instead of just one - but so far as Windows is concerned Grub4DOS makes no attempt to boot Windows directly. All it does is to invoke the "chainload" command and hands control over to the Windows bootloader.....which is then left to do its own thing.

After Grub4DOS has handed over control, it couldn't care less what Windows gets up to...!

Mike.

Hello @Wiz57

Thanks for your advice on Palemoon.

I have done all your provided steps successfully.

Now the setup is working perfectly.

Regards,

fbagnato

Hello @mikewalsh

Thanks for your reply.

I since worked out that the Windows partitions are in the separate (two layer as you say) menu-advanced.lst file.

Regards,

fbagnato