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I'm running BookwormPup64, and downloaded nomachine_8.11.3_4_amd64 from the Nomachine site.

Whether I run dpkg -i nomachine_8.11.3_4_amd64.deb or install with gdebi the system returns this message:

Setting up nomachine (8.11.3-4) ...

Usage: nxserver ACTION

Actions:

--install        {SYSTEM}   Run the NoMachine server install procedure for the
                            specified system or distribuition

--update         {SYSTEM}   Run the NoMachine server update procedure for the
                            specified system or distribution

--uninstall                 Run the NoMachine server uninstall procedure.

--pre-uninstall             Disable access to new NX sessions, terminate
                            sessions and reset the session DBs.

--keygen                    Generate a new pair of SSH keys for the NoMachine
                            login. After running this procedure, clients will
                            use the key: /usr/NX/share/keys/default.id_dsa.key
                            to connect to this NX server.

--keyrestore                Restore the SSH key provided with the server
                            package. Current key will be moved to
                            default.id_dsa.key.backup file.

--help                      Show this message

The specified SYSTEM must be one of the following operating systems.
If not the NoMachine setup will try to autodetect the system or will choose
the layout that better resembles one of the known OS.

   redhat       Red Hat Enterprise 4 and later.
   suse         SLED 10 and later, SLES 10 and later, Open SUSE 10 and later.
   slackware
   mandriva     Mandriva 2009 and later.
   debian       Debian 4.0 and later.
                Ubuntu 8.04 and later.
   fedora       Fedora 10 and later.
NX> 704 ERROR: Unsupported operating system 'linux'.
dpkg: error processing package nomachine (--configure):
 installed nomachine package post-installation script subprocess returned error exit status 65
Processing triggers for man-db (2.11.2-2) ...
Errors were encountered while processing:
 nomachine
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
A package failed to install.  Trying to recover:
Setting up nomachine (8.11.3-4) ...

Usage: nxserver ACTION

Actions:

--install        {SYSTEM}   Run the NoMachine server install procedure for the
                            specified system or distribuition

--update         {SYSTEM}   Run the NoMachine server update procedure for the
                            specified system or distribution

--uninstall                 Run the NoMachine server uninstall procedure.

--pre-uninstall             Disable access to new NX sessions, terminate
                            sessions and reset the session DBs.

--keygen                    Generate a new pair of SSH keys for the NoMachine
                            login. After running this procedure, clients will
                            use the key: /usr/NX/share/keys/default.id_dsa.key
                            to connect to this NX server.

--keyrestore                Restore the SSH key provided with the server
                            package. Current key will be moved to
                            default.id_dsa.key.backup file.

--help                      Show this message

The specified SYSTEM must be one of the following operating systems.
If not the NoMachine setup will try to autodetect the system or will choose
the layout that better resembles one of the known OS.

   redhat       Red Hat Enterprise 4 and later.
   suse         SLED 10 and later, SLES 10 and later, Open SUSE 10 and later.
   slackware
   mandriva     Mandriva 2009 and later.
   debian       Debian 4.0 and later.
                Ubuntu 8.04 and later.
   fedora       Fedora 10 and later.
NX> 704 ERROR: Unsupported operating system 'linux'.
dpkg: error processing package nomachine (--configure):
 installed nomachine package post-installation script subprocess returned error exit status 65
Errors were encountered while processing:
 nomachine

Your help would be much appreciated. Thank you.

@oliverjames :-

Huh. We had a play around with NoMachine a while back.....it proved utterly impossible to get running by all the conventional methods. I - and others - just gave up on it as a bad job.

For remote access, we tend to recommend AnyDesk nowadays. We used to have TeamViewer packages available, but that was back when the Linux version was essentially a Windows 'wrapper' running under a self-contained WINE build. When that reached version 13, TeamViewer switched to a native Qt5 build, and deprecated anything older. The app does actually start, but the GUI simply will NOT show for some unfathomable reason...and we have tried everything, believe me. It's just a no-go. Anyway, TV has had its share of security issues over the years, as well as being the go-to app for all the scammers. For that reason alone, I'm not happy using it anyway.

One other I recommend is a browser-based solution called

DWService

This downloads a tiny, Python-based 'agent' which connects to their servers, on a per-session basis. It's only 80-90kb or so, so it's negligible really. I only use it locally across the LAN, but this thing works extremely well; I'd recommend it to anybody for sheer ease-of-use.

They have a whole bunch of video tutorials covering absolutely EVERY aspect of using this thing.......even over the internet.

Mike.

@oliverjames
Unfortunately the installation of nomachine and the application itself will not work on puppylinux Distros out of the box.
There are a lot of reasons like

• Installer doesn't detect the Distro

• system is not a multi-user-system (but a user and group nx are mandatory)

• needed commands (e.g. usermod) doesn't exist because packages are stripped

• systemd expected

.... and so on.

@mikewalsh
not everybody gave up
After a hard fight I am able to connect and to control the connected computer now.
Next challenge is the control of nxserver, nxnode and nxd without systemd. (or I give up)

Btw. your statement ... gave up on it is a bad job ... is absolutely understandable.
I really never seen before an application with such a huge number of scripts.

norgo wrote: Sun Mar 24, 2024 3:45 am

@oliverjames
Unfortunately the installation of nomachine and the application itself will not work on puppylinux Distros out of the box.
There are a lot of reasons like

• Installer doesn't detect the Distro

• system is not a multi-user-system (but a user and group nx are mandatory)

• needed commands (e.g. usermod) doesn't exist because packages are stripped

• systemd expected

.... and so on.

@mikewalsh
not everybody gave up
After a hard fight I am able to connect and to control the connected computer now.
Next challenge is the control of nxserver, nxnode and nxd without systemd. (or I give up)

Btw. your statement ... gave up on it is a bad job ... is absolutely understandable.
I really never seen before an application with such a huge number of scripts.
nomachine_on_SLK64.jpg

All I can say, as a faithful Linux user, promoter, and coding dilletante, is congratulations to all of you who are able to solve these issues. It's very impressive.
Thank you.

@oliverjames :-

I just had a look at TeamViewer again, after nearly 2 years since last visiting the site. It appears to be all change there now; the app is re-designed yet again, and they appear to have moved to a paid-only model. This needs clarification; any one who actually initiates a connection - the person providing support - MUST now be licensed (even individual home users).

It's still free for those on the receiving end, but given what I said about it having had "issues" in the past, AND that it's the preferred tool for scammers, I wouldn't trust it any further than I could throw it.....

In all honesty, that goes for ALL remote-control software.....especially if you're the clueless user on the 'receiving end', getting "help" from someone else. How would you know what that other person is doing on your machine? Scary stuff....!!

Mike.

mikewalsh wrote: Sun Mar 24, 2024 10:52 am

@oliverjames :-

I just had a look at TeamViewer again, after nearly 2 years since last visiting the site. It appears to be all change there now; the app is re-designed yet again, and they appear to have moved to a paid-only model. This needs clarification; any one who actually initiates a connection - the person providing support - MUST now be licensed (even individual home users).

It's still free for those on the receiving end, but given what I said about it having had "issues" in the past, AND that it's the preferred tool for scammers, I wouldn't trust it any further than I could throw it.....

In all honesty, that goes for ALL remote-control software.....especially if you're the clueless user on the 'receiving end', getting "help" from someone else. How would you know what that other person is doing on your machine? Scary stuff....!!

Mike.

Thank you, I'll have look. I did think about the security issues given the extraordinary simplicity of installation. I'll look for an alternative solution.

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