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BookwormPup64 apt & synaptic not working

Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2024 9:02 am
by Insanitor

Sound card: This Puppy has no driver for my sound card.

Motherboard: Axiomtek IMB200. ATX form factor. In BIOS there are many onboard devices disabled.

The Hard Drive is a PNY SSD which contains the EXT4 partition with no others defined.

CPU: Pentium 4. 3.0Ghz. 800Mhz FSB. Intel Hyperthreading.

I've come across a weird problem.

When I boot the CD, the Synaptic package manager program works and in the terminal the apt command works.

***********HOWEVER***********

When I install the OS to my SSD Both are not functional. When running the synaptic package manager nothing happens.

When I try the apt command in the terminal i get a command not found error message. I get the same thing when I try to run it by typing synaptic in the terminal.
When I click it on the menu the left icon for it is missing.

Here is the strange part:

For some reason, I did a complete reinstall because my instincts told me that this approach would work. So when I did that VOILA! It worked.

But I tried to create a multiboot system and this kind of Linux doesn't seem to be able to boot in a conventional sense so I just tried a bunch of other stuff including another reinstall.

And that was a **MISTAKE**!!!!!

Now for the life of me I cannot remember how I did it.

So I guess what I'm asking for is whatever damned option/s I used to get this to work properly.


Re: BookwormPup64 apt & synaptic not working

Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2024 11:00 am
by Insanitor

Found the answer:

The installation procedure to avoid this is to do like a manual install. Anything automatic will get you.

Menu>setup>puppy installer>frugalpup>puppy>this puppy>and so on.

Then install grub for booting.


Re: BookwormPup64 apt & synaptic not working

Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2024 10:56 am
by trawglodyte

The frugalpup installer works great for me too. What do you have in mind for multi-booting? Other Linux distros, Windows, more Puppy Linux distros? What would you like to do?

There's a lot of options.

I use an external sound card that works with the linux snd-usb-audio module that seems standard so I can't say much except try to figure out what Linux driver/module works with your card and make sure you have it loaded first, then if the soundcard still doesn't work, go from there.


Re: BookwormPup64 apt & synaptic not working

Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2024 1:13 pm
by dimkr
Insanitor wrote: Mon Jan 15, 2024 9:02 am

When I try the apt command in the terminal i get a command not found error message. I get the same thing when I try to run it by typing synaptic in the terminal.
When I click it on the menu the left icon for it is missing.

The installer you used probably didn't copy bdrv_*.sfs from the ISO image to the partition you installed to. This SFS contains apt and Synaptic, and it's optional (you'll get a working Puppy but without them, if you don't have this SFS).


Re: BookwormPup64 apt & synaptic not working

Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2024 3:25 pm
by Insanitor
trawglodyte wrote: Wed Jan 17, 2024 10:56 am

The frugalpup installer works great for me too. What do you have in mind for multi-booting? Other Linux distros, Windows, more Puppy Linux distros? What would you like to do?

There's a lot of options.

I use an external sound card that works with the linux snd-usb-audio module that seems standard so I can't say much except try to figure out what Linux driver/module works with your card and make sure you have it loaded first, then if the soundcard still doesn't work, go from there.

My sound card is an old ISA Labway card model LWHA151A00.

Most likely too old for puppy Linux, so there are no drivers for it.

With this old system, to avoid conflicts I do not add any sound unless it's something so different that it cannot conflict. So when I want sound, the only thing I have that can do this is my external USB sound card.


Re: BookwormPup64 apt & synaptic not working

Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2024 5:16 pm
by trawglodyte

@Insanitor You're probably right that the card is not supported.

I dug a little bit to see if I could find anything. The Labway A151-A00 has a Yamaha YMF719 chipset and wants an OPL3-SA4 or OPL3SA4 driver/module. I didn't see anything in BookwormPup repository that fits the bill. But maybe those search terms can help you find a solution, if there is one to be found. There's some ALSA metapackages that might include it or something that would work, but then you'd be getting a ton of stuff you probably don't need or want in hopes of one little driver that you do want.


Re: BookwormPup64 apt & synaptic not working

Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2024 10:19 pm
by Insanitor

I can’t see a way to get a driver working unless someone gets Linux to be able to use windows WDM drivers.