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How to force video resolution on boot in LucidPup 5.2.8?

Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2020 7:13 am
by JASpup
When I boot Puppy on my old Windows 98 desktop, I have to leave X to manually change the video resolution with xorgwizard. In this version (TharPup) it doesn't even work, but I can in Lucid. I tried remastering the boot after the adjustment and the problem persists.

Are there ways to set video resolution before X loads?

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Re: How to force video resolution on boot?

Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2020 7:43 am
by PipzDex
Hi JASpup

Check out my pet that I designed some time ago and that I use in each puppy and with any desktop environment without any problem ...
This pet forces the screen resolution to 1280 x 1024 px
In case it is not the resolution you want, follow the example of the script located in /etc/init.d/rescreenchng.sh

Just install and restart X

I hope this pet is useful to you ...

Cheers! :thumbup2:

Re: How to force video resolution on boot?

Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2020 8:24 am
by JASpup
Useful hack, yes. Variables after the screen resolution?:

xrandr --newmode "1280x1024_60.00" 109.00 1280 1368 1496 1712 1024 1027 1034 1063 -hsync +vsync


My goal is a read-only (nosave) boot .iso (CD) with the correct resolution.

Does your .pet work this way? I am new.

Re: How to force video resolution on boot?

Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2020 10:26 am
by Jafadmin
You would probably have to force it in the bootloader. Most puppy ISO's use isolinux (syslinux) to boot. I have no idea how to make isolinux set screen resolution. Grub4dos and Grub can both set screen resolution though.

I think the grub4dos command is something like 'setvbe=1024x768x32' .. you would set that at the top before the menu items.

Re: How to force video resolution on boot?

Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2020 11:37 am
by JASpup
That is the direction, what I need to learn.

I searched Ducky on the topic and they point me to a grub explanation:

https://linuxhint.com/set_screen_resolu ... rnel_boot/

I'm using YUMI multiboot on a USB or a single distro Live session, which I'm pretty sure is using isolinux like you wrote.

Re: How to force video resolution on boot?

Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 6:54 pm
by PipzDex
JASpup wrote: Wed Oct 07, 2020 8:24 am Useful hack, yes. Variables after the screen resolution?:

xrandr --newmode "1280x1024_60.00" 109.00 1280 1368 1496 1712 1024 1027 1034 1063 -hsync +vsync


My goal is a read-only (nosave) boot .iso (CD) with the correct resolution.

Does your .pet work this way? I am new.
Hi JASpup
There's a way but you need edit the main sfs
Maybe i can help you editing the ISO and share the way i made the process

Tellme what puppy are using

Cheers!

Re: How to force video resolution on boot?

Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2020 12:34 am
by JASpup
PipzDex wrote: Sun Oct 11, 2020 6:54 pm Hi JASpup
There's a way but you need edit the main sfs
Maybe i can help you editing the ISO and share the way i made the process

Tellme what puppy are using

Cheers!
Hello, great offer!

Lucid Puppy 5.2.8 [corrected]

latest news -

The target machine isn't booting at all. I'm swapping PCI cards and I switched out the HD.

At all meaning the HD or CD-ROMs with Puppy or Windows install disks aren't booting.

It feels like the BIOS doesn't like the HD, even though it recognizes it, and that somehow thwarts the entire system (I'm not that technical).

Proof will be when I re-install the prior HD. If it boots, forcing a video resolution pre-X on CD-ROM is still worthwhile.

My CD doesn't need a multiboot config, but if GRUB4DOS sets a video resolution, that's the only other avenue considered.

Editing the .sfs is better?

Re: How to force video resolution on boot?

Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2020 12:56 am
by bigpup
Stop guessing at what this person needs to do.

Please talk about only one specific computer!!!



We need some basic information.

WHAT IS THE COMPUTER?????
Make and model????
Specs if you know them.
What hardware is providing graphics????
Intel, Nvidia, ATI????

What specific resolution do you want to be using????

Why are you trying to use such an old version of Puppy?????

Lucid Puppy 5.7.1.
That name does not seem correct.
The final release of Lucid was Lucid 528.005 and it has a lot of bug fixes from earlier versions.

Unless this computer is very, very, very old and has a processor older than a P4.
You can probably us a much newer version of Puppy.
Graphic hardware support is much improved.

So give use some good information to help you!!

Hardware not being activated by the bios could be several things.
The hardware is just broken and no longer works.
Settings in the bios are wrong.
Connections to the hardware are loose, corroded, bad cables, wrong connection to motherboard, etc......

Re: How to force video resolution on boot?

Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2020 12:59 am
by PipzDex
JASpup wrote: Mon Oct 12, 2020 12:34 am
PipzDex wrote: Sun Oct 11, 2020 6:54 pm Hi JASpup
There's a way but you need edit the main sfs
Maybe i can help you editing the ISO and share the way i made the process

Tellme what puppy are using

Cheers!
Hello, great offer!

Lucid Puppy 5.7.1

latest news -

The target machine isn't booting at all. I'm swapping PCI cards and I switched out the HD.

At all meaning the HD or CD-ROMs with Puppy or Windows install disks aren't booting.

It feels like the BIOS doesn't like the HD, even though it recognizes it, and that somehow thwarts the entire system (I'm not that technical).

Proof will be when I re-install the prior HD. If it boots, forcing a video resolution pre-X on CD-ROM is still worthwhile.

My CD doesn't need a multiboot config, but if GRUB4DOS sets a video resolution, that's the only other avenue considered.

Editing the .sfs is better?
Hi JASpup

One question??

Lucid puppy 5.7.1?
Not Precise Puppy 5.7.1?
http://wikka.puppylinux.com/PuppyPrecise?redirect=no
In any case, I can do the exact same thing in any version of puppy without problems ...
I was struck by the version of the distro only
Well, the idea is that I am going to edit the main sfs to add this pet that I send you (be careful, the pet is to be applied in xenialpup only) and repack it originally and so when you log in, it will change the resolution without having to modify any parameter screen or its tools ...
This is how I handle each test version since for some reason, my pc does not give me more resolution than 1024x768 and the monitor is up to 1280x1024 maximum pixels ...

i uploaded this puppy original with the force resolution screen included, just burn it into cd and thats all

Puppy Precise 5.7.1 https://drive.google.com/file/d/189IUM7 ... sp=sharing

Cheers!

Re: How to force video resolution on boot?

Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2020 1:51 am
by JASpup
I'm using computers to fix other computers. If I only had one, nothing would work.

I meant Lucid Puppy 5.2.8 as corrected.

They're all using the same Acer monitor which likes the Mach64 driver in 16-bit 1440x900 (8:5).

Maybe helpful: this notebook boots the correct resolution without adjustment. The old Pentium Celeron HP Pavilion 4450 does not. That is the machine I want a fixed resolution boot for. I will have to fix booting again to discover graphics hardware.

I can't use a new Pup because they're too resource intensive for the machine - 366MHz, maxed out at 256mb ram.

Puppy shouldn't run much slower than Win 98 unless it's packed with features.

Note: the screenshot in this thread is the same computer running Tahr. I wasn't able to successfully fix the resolution in Tahr, but it can be done in Lucid.

bigpup wrote: Mon Oct 12, 2020 12:56 am Stop guessing at what this person needs to do.

Please talk about only one specific computer!!!



We need some basic information.

WHAT IS THE COMPUTER?????
Make and model????
Specs if you know them.
What hardware is providing graphics????
Intel, Nvidia, ATI????

What specific resolution do you want to be using????

Why are you trying to use such an old version of Puppy?????

Lucid Puppy 5.7.1.
That name does not seem correct.
The final release of Lucid was Lucid 528.005 and it has a lot of bug fixes from earlier versions.

Unless this computer is very, very, very old and has a processor older than a P4.
You can probably us a much newer version of Puppy.
Graphic hardware support is much improved.

So give use some good information to help you!!

Hardware not being activated by the bios could be several things.
The hardware is just broken and no longer works.
Settings in the bios are wrong.
Connections to the hardware are loose, corroded, bad cables, wrong connection to motherboard, etc......

Re: How to force video resolution on boot?

Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2020 2:15 am
by JASpup
PipzDex wrote: Mon Oct 12, 2020 12:59 am Hi JASpup

One question??

Lucid puppy 5.7.1?
Not Precise Puppy 5.7.1?
http://wikka.puppylinux.com/PuppyPrecise?redirect=no
In any case, I can do the exact same thing in any version of puppy without problems ...
I was struck by the version of the distro only
Well, the idea is that I am going to edit the main sfs to add this pet that I send you (be careful, the pet is to be applied in xenialpup only) and repack it originally and so when you log in, it will change the resolution without having to modify any parameter screen or its tools ...
This is how I handle each test version since for some reason, my pc does not give me more resolution than 1024x768 and the monitor is up to 1280x1024 maximum pixels ...

i uploaded this puppy original with the force resolution screen included, just burn it into cd and thats all

Puppy Precise 5.7.1 https://drive.google.com/file/d/189IUM7 ... sp=sharing

Cheers!
Clarity:

It's Lucid not Precise.

XenialPup?

I'm not sure what you mean by login. The process is:

I boot Lucid. I awkwardly (fuzzy screen) exit X, run xorgwizard, then apply the driver and 8:5 resolution. 1024x768 would probably also work, but the resolution Puppy chooses is neither.

Re: How to force video resolution on boot in LucidPup 5.2.8?

Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2021 3:27 am
by PipzDex

Hi @JASpup
did you solve this problem?
I made a program that solves this problem, in case you are interested
Cheers!! :thumbup2:


Re: How to force video resolution on boot in LucidPup 5.2.8?

Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2021 4:29 am
by JASpup
PipzDex wrote: Thu Apr 29, 2021 3:27 am

Hi @JASpup
did you solve this problem?
I made a program that solves this problem, in case you are interested
Cheers!! :thumbup2:

I have two old desktop computers, native Win98 and XP, and tinkering with boot options causes kernel panic.

So do I want them still running? Yes.

Would I settle for just Windows? Yes (XP on both at least).

May they work again? Yes

Is it worth the time and hassle to keep tinkering with them? Probably not.

Puppy co-exists easily on my 32 laptops, but desktops won't keep working with multiple os.

I'm more experienced since I posted this thread and can probably hack a fixed resolution, but I appreciate the offer. The 98 box favors Lucid.


Re: How to force video resolution on boot in LucidPup 5.2.8?

Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2021 8:35 am
by one
JASpup wrote: Thu Apr 29, 2021 4:29 am

Puppy co-exists easily on my 32 laptops, but desktops won't keep working with multiple os.

You are playing with 32 laptops? Or is this a typo?
:o


Re: How to force video resolution on boot in LucidPup 5.2.8?

Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2021 6:21 pm
by JASpup
one wrote: Thu Apr 29, 2021 8:35 am

You are playing with 32 laptops? Or is this a typo?
:o

32-bit slow machines that work, yes. And they're not rare.

Similar recent:
viewtopic.php?p=23403#p23403

I think Texaspilot runs one too.

It's the big clunky desktops that break.