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https://forum.puppylinux.com/
Edit '/etc/systemd/logind.conf', find "HandleLidSwitch" so becomes this (uncomment and set to poweroff):
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HandleLidSwitch=poweroff
HandleLidSwitchExternalPower=poweroffReboot to apply the change, or:
to apply directly (untested, read it on the web):
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systemctl restart systemd-logindFred
I just installed FossaDog on a spare old laptop that has XenialPup64 7.5, and FatDog64 already.
Fujitsu LifeBook S6311 T5600 1.83GHz, 2GB RAM, 80GB HDD.
Sound is not working in FossaDog, but working fine in the other two (XenialPup64 & FatDog64) - btw - I just used YouTube to test sound.
In AlsaMixer it says:
Card - HDA Intel
Chip - Realtek ALC262
I did apt-get update and upgraded all upgradeable using Synaptic Package Manager. There were approx 133 packages got updated, no errors, some warnings. Rebooted and no sound still. That's the end of my knowledge. Anything else that can be done please? Thanks.
On separate issue - nVidia driver.
My 'multimedia box' is currently using Windows10.
I want to replace Windows with FossaDog if I can. I found that video performance is better when using nVidia driver. On my Dell 630 laptop, I use following command to install the driver successfully.
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apt-get update
apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
apt-get install nvidia-340 On this PC, it has nVidia GeForce 7900GS and it does not work when I tried using nvidia-340 driver.
Some googling, tells me to use 304.37 driver. I tried following commands with no luck (from my old notes for DebianDog)
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apt-get update
apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
apt-get install nvidia-detect
nvidia-detect #pick the recommended driver
apt-get install nvidia-legacy-304xx-driverAnyone knows which driver to use please? Thanks.
What driver did the nvidia-detect command recommend? The nvidia-legacy-304xx-driver?
See the discussion here.
apt-get install nvidia-detect
apt-get install nvidia-legacy-304xx-driver
apt-get install nvidia-legacy-30437-driver
-> these commands errors out, something about package not found/available.
I'm still fiddling and reading... Trying to see what package name to use.
What happens when you run the "nvidia-detect" command from a terminal?
IIRC, Ubuntu handles nvidia driver detection differently than Debian. Read here.
See my post above.
Then the discussion in the Debian forum probably applies to your situation. These old nvidia cards are no longer supported in Linux.
What driver are you currently using - the nouveau modesetting driver?
I had good results on an old nvidia machine running Debian Buster by switching to the Xorg framebuffer driver. But I don't know how that would work in Ubuntu.
Whatever in FossaDog, I think so ie. nouveau.
It works but not acceptable for high resolution (1920x1080) video performance.
Looks like, I still have to use the bloated Windows10 on this PC..
Then the framebuffer driver (see above) probably won't help.
I found this, and google translate shows it in English.
https://lafibre.info/tutoriels-linux/nv ... ntu-18-04/
I knew the chance of success is next to zero. FossaDog is Ubuntu 20.04.
Not knowing what I was doing, I gave it a go anyway...
downloaded the driver, extracted it, patched it.
created /etc/modprobe.d/disable-nouveau.conf accordingly.
update-initramfs -u (in my case return to prompt with nothing, in the screenshot it was generating initrd.img.xxx)
After reboot (it went to 640x480 res), I exited X-windows and installed the nvidia-304 driver (via ./nvidia-installer).
In screenshots it showed X windows config was updated. In my case, it didn't even ask.
After final reboot, it was still 640x480 res. No nvidia splash (on my Dell 630 laptop, this is how I know nvidia driver installed successfully, apart from CPU util drops significantly when playing hi-res video)
Anyway...it's really beyond my depth...
Hi dcung !
I am using a Dell Precision M6600 .
Did install NVIDIA Drivers.
For getting NVIDIA to run i have to disable in BIOS the OTPIMUS option (in BIOS Video Settings )....else it will not run/activate NVIDIA Driver on Reboot.
Not sure if there is something like OPTIMUS in your BIOS Settings for your Dell 630 laptop,
NVIDIA on Dells is really a Pain in the Ass.
Mostly i don`t use NVIDIA Graphic Card .... causing more Heat.I disable NVIDIA Graphic Card by enabling OPTIMUS in BIOS.
@dcung: Did you have the kernel headers package installed? Read here for the Debian instructions. See Method B.
For this issue - Not sure if I should create a separate thread or keep posting on this FossaDog. I don't mind either way. If Fred thinks, I should create separate one, let me know.
The PC involved has following specs:
Asus P5K-E Motherboard, E6750 CoreDuo@2.66GHz, 4GB RAM, GeForce 7900GS GPU card and SSD.
My goal is to replace current Windows10 with any light weight linux that has (latest..ish) Firefox, Chrome and VLC player. My preference is FossaDog, BionicDog, or any other flavour that boots fast.
I have settled on FossaDog/BionicDog since experimenting on puppy linuxes probably 3 years ago in the old forum. So, using FossaDog is my 'ultimate' goal when replacing OS on my old HW collections.
While not completely clueless technically, my linux knowlegde is limited to say the least...
I realised that old nvidia cards are no longer supported in later version of linuxes. So, this is just to experiment and improve my linux knowledge while doing it.
Having found the French link above, I downloaded ubuntu-18.04.5-desktop-amd64.iso and ubuntu-20.04.2.0-desktop-amd64.iso. Only to proof that nVidia driver can be installed (specifically on my HW above).
I started with ubuntu-20. Could not even get proper GUI. I didn't try to fix/troubleshoot.
Switched to ubuntu-18.04.5. Better, GUI interface ok with built-in video driver, so I followed what's in the French link. NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-304.137 installation with some errors (X config part). After reboot, no GUI. Tried startx manually, no joy, errors...
Redo ./nvidia-installer again from non-GUI command prompt as root, same result...
I will try to locate error logs mentioned...(when I'm recharged).
Hi backi,
FossaDog64 - With Dell D630 laptop, nVidia driver install is surprisingly (and pleasantly) easy. Only 3 lines of commands. See my post above.
@rcrsn51
I blindly followed the French link, and thought this line below included all needed - not sure if kernel headers included.
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sudo apt install gcc make build-essential gcc-multilib dkms mesa-utilsI will try installing headers next time I experiment.
I will also try to get Debian light weight later...whichever works, as long as with nVidia driver installed.
EDIT: I think I tried this (Method B and your revised procedure) on Dell D630 back then, and it worked. But since I found the 3 lines command and has been using the 'updated' procedure on Dell D630 (I think it has nvidia quadro nvs 135m).
Need to find procedure that works for my 7900GS now.
Continue on this now
viewtopic.php?f=58&t=3062
There is no blue-alsa package in the repo. Without it bluetooth cannot connect to Audio Sink devices. And compiling it failed due to software in non-standard-prefix. If possible please provide packages; alsa-libs (aptx enabled), blue-alsa (aptx and aac enabled ... requires fdk-aac).
Also /etc/init.d/bluetooth is incomplete or barebones. It would need to start bluealsa, add services using sdptool, obexftpd, obexd etc
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bluetoothd -C -E &
obexd -a &
obexftpd -b &
bluetoothctl power on
bluetoothctl agent on
bluetoothctl default-agent
if type bluealsa > /dev/null 2>&1; then
sleep 2
bluealsa &
fi
sdptool add OPUSH
sdptool add LAN
sdptool add FTP
sdptool add KEYB
sdptool add HID
sdptool add A2SNK
sdptool add A2SRC
hciconfig hci0 upCheers
stemsee
I've done a search to my query, but came up empty.Presently, I have several Puppies frugally installed on a hard drive. There are both 32b and 64b pups. I'd really like to also frugal install FossaDog,
and possibly BusterDog, or whichever Dog you may suggest. However, as I'm not sure how to frugal install(or even if possible) a "Dog",, I would very much appreciate guidance, step by step, PLEASE. BTW-I
used the built-in app "Frugal Installer", in the Pups to do those. Thank you very, very much.
Hello Tosim
Fossadog has frugal install in menu.
I use it daily on my chromebook.
tosim wrote: ↑Wed Jul 07, 2021 3:26 pmI've done a search to my query, but came up empty.Presently, I have several Puppies frugally installed on a hard drive. There are both 32b and 64b pups. I'd really like to also frugal install FossaDog,
and possibly BusterDog, or whichever Dog you may suggest. However, as I'm not sure how to frugal install(or even if possible) a "Dog",, I would very much appreciate guidance, step by step, PLEASE. BTW-I
used the built-in app "Frugal Installer", in the Pups to do those. Thank you very, very much.
Go to the Debian Live Bullseye Starter Kit thread and get the deblive-multi-installer.
Thank you both for the replies. I will get it done. Thanks again.
Note that in the case of FossaDog, you will use the Ubuntu section of the multi-installer.
I found a couple links about snaps on live booted ubuntu.
It's possible with some of them.
https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/how-to-ins ... -usbs/5413
These guys talk about it like it was fixed back in 2018.
https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/confined-s ... ng/3767/20
I didn't read this whole thread, are snaps working in Puppy now?
Hi Fred,
Now, there is an update of Ubuntu Fossa, 20.04.4.
Is there any update iso of FossaDog based of that?
Thank you.
Hello UbuntuDog team !
Very good job made here with this OS.The features put in this Dog are the good ones.
THANKS !!
I'm testing FossaDog 
I came across this anomaly.
I tried to create SVG icon using this script...
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#!/bin/bash
echo ' <svg version="1.1" width="150" height="150" id="svg1">
id="svg1854"
<defs
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style="font-size:12;">
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</svg>
' > /root/baconrecorder.svg
I got error that sodipodi wasn't defined, so I deleted line
<sodipodi:namedview
and the icon was created.
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I'm testing FossaDog
It is nearly my dream os.
FossaDog was excellent. BionicDog pretty good too. Because of their existence I never myself used Fossapup nor BionicPup, but I guess it is a matter of what you like in a distro when it comes to package manager support and utilities offered. Maybe BionicPup used a bit less RAM (?) so might have worked better on really old machines?? I suspect any such 'sweet spot' is pretty much now gone, and what we use comes down to habit and reluctance to adopt anything different even if just as small, efficient, and at least as functional. No harm in that of course except I feel these Dogs could have become much more popular if they had ever been made better known via the likes of Distrowatch - back when they came out I have to say they blew most alternatives out of the water (and I tried most everything back then, including Pups, and other distros large mainstream or small specialised). I used Puppy Linux from version 2.17 up to 4.31 and they really did provide for a certain class of machine that other distros of the time failed to cater for so well - not that they were perfect - I never liked that they were not multi-user, though realise that was a simplification to make their design easier to implement. But once the first DebianDogs appeared they brought the best of both worlds - small, efficient, frugal install flexible, sfs-loading, but also fully multi-user and pretty much perfect package management. I doubt those who adopted the DebianDogs ever went backi... just a joke @backi
You pretty much summed it up perfectly @wiak ......what else should i say ? 
I have installed Bionic-Dog64 ,Fossa-Dog64 with Printer Drivers installed and Debian Dog64 Bookworm on a SSD......,perfectly configured for my Demands...They all just fly......light as a Feather.........Who could ask for more.
But I am still on Bionic-Dog64 as my daily Driver.......cause...it has an older Version of Enlightenment Desktop installed (E17)....a little bit less demanding (minimal) on my Processor than the newer Enlightenment Desktop Versions.(although it does not really matter at all ....nowadays.....better Hardware).
The "Dogs" are ,in my humble Opinion, the most outstanding Product on the "Linux Scene" ......hard to beat.
@wiak wrote:
No harm in that of course except I feel these Dogs could have become much more popular if they had ever been made better known via the likes of Distrowatch - back when they came out I have to say they blew most alternatives out of the water (and I tried most everything back then, including Pups, and other distros large mainstream or small specialised).
That`s absolutely correct....
Best Wishes