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https://forum.puppylinux.com/
@Clarity
When JWMdesk is launched, the script checks the jwmrc-personal configuration file for either modern or legacy jwm code syntax pertaining to the display of virtual desktops. If the code is missing or corrupt, this option will not appear in the JWMdesk gui.
@norgo , @peebee , @rockedge , @radky
Almost ALL desktop PCs (and many laptops too) have processors that are VM capable. Each of you know the value of VM being turned on when KVM processing benefits the VM performacne. This is presented to you, as each of you KNOW the value of the following.
@Norgo has built a utility some time ago that not only exposes, but also turns on the VM support that the PC has. It is named "qemu_ready". It is intelligent while also tiny.
This utility is NOT one that comes with QEMU packaging, officially; even as its usefulness for VM is apparent.
Since its tiny, I propose that it be included in the system builds such that when QEMU is installed, the utility is present. Further if included, there 'could' be utility allowing users to activate it via the system Menu.
If this is reasonable, it will show up in future versions thru your WoofCE efforts.
radky wrote: ↑Wed Sep 18, 2024 3:20 pmozsouth wrote: ↑Wed Sep 18, 2024 5:06 am@radky - modules init file is: dpupbw64initmodules.txt (in same folder as puppy .sfs). By making that file with just (the word) coretemp in it & rebooting, temperature taskbar display now works for me (with my 6.6.47 kernel installed). If there were other modules, would be comma separated.
@ozsouth
If I understand correctly (for frugal installs) Puppy creates *initmodules.txt during the creation of the save area. ... The *initmodules.txt file contains a comma-delimited list of kernel modules which support input devices (wireless keyboards) that must load early in the boot process. I'm not sure about the suitability of *initmodules.txt for early loading of other kernel modules (such as coretemp.ko) which typically load via modprobe.
@radky - absolutely correct if you intend to install. That was a shorthand hack I used to illustrate a possibility for just running live. A ydrv including a small script with modprobe coretemp, in /root/Startup would be the correct procedure. I should have specified that.
About "...initmodules.txt":
It is automatically created if the first boot resulted in any loaded modules that are likely to be needed by the keyboard.
It's created as a file in /tmp at about the same time as QuichSetup is run.
It is then copied to the the save location by rc.shutdown towards the end of first shutdown processing.
Note: The save location is not always the same as the install location, so the "...initmodules.txt" file might not be in the same directory as the puppy...sfs file.
It can be generated manually via Menu->System->Boot manager->Modules->Load the specified module(s) early in the boot process.
While this "workaround" is designed to enable a working keyboard during subsequent boots,
the 'init' script will load any module, provided it exists.
Forum members rockedge and smokey01 have been very gracious in providing access to their servers for quick access to the BW64 iso and associated files. Thank you rockedge and smokey01 for this service to the Puppy community !
However high bandwidth usage of these servers for iso downloads may exceed restrictions defined by the terms and conditions of the upstream hosting service. Rockedge's upstream hosting service has recently imposed severe restrictions on his use of the server, though (for now) BW64 downloads are still available.
At smokey01's server, transfers are now intermittently throttled (0.62 KB/s). Consequently, this supplemental server is no longer suitable for high bandwidth downloads of the BW64 iso, and this option is now removed from the first page of the BW64 forum thread. Continued high bandwidth usage of this server may result in the loss of my access privileges.
Soon, the BW64 files will be transferred to a larger (high-capacity) hosting service, and this should provide necessary relief for rockedge and smokey01.
BKWP64 v1008 boot results are published in the WoofCE Results table here
FYI
Soon, the BW64 files will be transferred to a larger (high-capacity) hosting service, and this should provide necessary relief for rockedge and smokey01.
I hope it is this one:
http://distro.ibiblio.org/puppylinux/
If not you really need to start using it.
There is no cost to using it. It is free.
It will always be free to use and is not going to disappear.
All you need to do is make a request to be able to post to it and become a registered poster.
I really do not understand why people are not using it, to provide the download storage of what they produce in Puppy Linux?????
bigpup wrote: ↑Wed Sep 25, 2024 2:24 pmSoon, the BW64 files will be transferred to a larger (high-capacity) hosting service, and this should provide necessary relief for rockedge and smokey01.
I hope it is this one:
http://distro.ibiblio.org/puppylinux/If not you really need to start using it.
There is no cost to using it. It is free.
It will always be free to use and is not going to disappear.
All you need to do is make a request to be able to post to it and become a registered poster.
I really do not understand why people are not using it, to provide the download storage of what they produce in Puppy Linux?????
Anyone can ftp to it, you just need the login and password. It is ftp port 22 as I recall, and url login.ibiblio.org
The username will be "puppylinux"
Various people have the password; peebee and rockedge do I think, send them a pm.
You can use rsync to login and upload. If interested, @radky , I can give you my upload script for easyos and quirky, easily modified for puppylinux
BarryK wrote: ↑Wed Sep 25, 2024 2:49 pmbigpup wrote: ↑Wed Sep 25, 2024 2:24 pmSoon, the BW64 files will be transferred to a larger (high-capacity) hosting service, and this should provide necessary relief for rockedge and smokey01.
I hope it is this one:
http://distro.ibiblio.org/puppylinux/If not you really need to start using it.
There is no cost to using it. It is free.
It will always be free to use and is not going to disappear.
All you need to do is make a request to be able to post to it and become a registered poster.
I really do not understand why people are not using it, to provide the download storage of what they produce in Puppy Linux?????
Anyone can ftp to it, you just need the login and password. It is ftp port 22 as I recall, and url login.ibiblio.org
The username will be "puppylinux"
Various people have the password; peebee and rockedge do I think, send them a pm.You can use rsync to login and upload. If interested, @radky , I can give you my upload script for easyos and quirky, easily modified for puppylinux
@BarryK
Your ibiblio upload script would be very helpful. When convenient for you, just send by PM
Thank you !
radky wrote: ↑Wed Sep 25, 2024 4:35 pmBarryK wrote: ↑Wed Sep 25, 2024 2:49 pmbigpup wrote: ↑Wed Sep 25, 2024 2:24 pmI hope it is this one:
http://distro.ibiblio.org/puppylinux/If not you really need to start using it.
There is no cost to using it. It is free.
It will always be free to use and is not going to disappear.
All you need to do is make a request to be able to post to it and become a registered poster.
I really do not understand why people are not using it, to provide the download storage of what they produce in Puppy Linux?????
Anyone can ftp to it, you just need the login and password. It is ftp port 22 as I recall, and url login.ibiblio.org
The username will be "puppylinux"
Various people have the password; peebee and rockedge do I think, send them a pm.You can use rsync to login and upload. If interested, @radky , I can give you my upload script for easyos and quirky, easily modified for puppylinux
@BarryK
Your ibiblio upload script would be very helpful. When convenient for you, just send by PM
Thank you !
Done, pm sent!
BW64 files are now available for download via ibiblio.org !
Go to first post for download link.
Thanks @BarryK @peebee @rockedge
What is the official way to update my installation for example 10.0.7 ---> 10.0.8?
There are several ways to do this.
Assuming we are talking about a frugal install on some type of drive.
Download the BookwormPup64 10.0.8 ISO.
Do a completely new frugal install using this 10.0.8 ISO.
Note:
The main Frugalpup Installer, that is in BookwormPup64 10.0.7, can do the install, and update the boot loader, for booting the new 10.0.8 install.
Copy the old BookwormPup64 save you used in 10.0.7 into the 10.0.8 frugal install.
Now boot 10.0.8 and it should have all the settings and stuff you had added to 10.0.7.
Only stuff that would not still work is anything that is kernel specific software. It will have to be reinstalled for the different kernel that is in 10.0.8
This is safest way, because you still have the 10.0.7 working install, if something goes wrong. Later it can be deleted if you no longer want it.
A manual way.
This is best done by booting something other than the 10.0.7 install you are trying to update.
So it is not being used as you do this file replacement.
Open the 10.0.8 ISO in Rox file manager showing the contents.
Replace all the files in the 10.0.7 frugal install with the files that are in the 10.0.8 ISO.
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Driver request please
Network controller [0280]: Broadcom Inc. and subsidiaries BCM43228 802.11a/b/g/n [14e4:4359]
and
Bus 002 Device 005: ID 0bda:b812 Realtek Semiconductor Corp. RTL88x2bu [AC1200 Techkey]
for bookwormpup64 10.0.8
How can I install the correct display driver to get 1920x1200 resolution?
The graphics is Intel Raptor Lake-U [Intel Graphics] [8086:a7ac]
When I boot to this computer, the only resolution it lists is 800x600 75Hz - nothing else
Thanks
@bigpup :-
Would you not achieve the same effect by simply swapping the adrv, bdrv, fdrv, base Puppy SFS and the initrd.gz? No need to touch the zdrv, vmlinuz or kbuild SFS; if the kernel's functioning OK with your hardware, why bother upgrading just for the sake of a few 'point release' numbers? This IS an LTS kernel, after all....
Mike. 
Do you mean you have a Intel Raptor Lake-U cpu?
To identify your on-board Intel gfx enter this in terminal
lspci -k |grep -EA3 'VGA|3D|Display'
This should state if it is UHD or Iris Xe
Or you can use a portable app provided by mikewalsh here:
To find out the supported resolutions of your monitor enter in terminal
xrandr -q
If your chosen resolution is available, then again in terminal
xrandr -s 1920x1200
@Jasper
I'm using Ventoy to run these for now
Here's ruinning the commands on BookwormPup64 10.0.8
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# lspci -k | grep -EA3 'VGA|3D|DISPLAY'
0000:00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Raptor Lake-U [Intel Graphics] (rev 04)
Subsystem: Dell Raptor Lake-U [Intel Graphics]
0000:00:04.0 Signal processing controller: Intel Corporation Raptor Lake Dynamic Platform and Thermal Framework Processor Participant (rev 01)
Subsystem: Dell Raptor Lake Dynamic Platform and Thermal Framework Processor Participant
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# xrandr -q
xrandr: Failed to get size of gamma for output default
Screen 0: minimum 800 x 600, current 800 x 600, maximum 800 x 600
default connected 800x600+0+0 0mm x 0mm
800x600 75.00*
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# xrandr -s 1920x1200
Size 1920x1200 not found in available modes
#=============================================================
I also tried this on a KLV named KLV-vmHost-rc4 that works:
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# lspci -k |grep -EA3 'VGA|3D|Display'This gave nothing so I ran this:
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bash-5.2
bash-5.2# lspci
00:08.0 Class 0880: 8086:a74f
00:15.1 Class 0c80: 8086:51e9
00:1f.0 Class 0601: 8086:519d
e0:06.0 Class 0604: 8086:a74d
00:04.0 Class 1180: 8086:a71d
00:14.3 Class 0280: 8086:51f1
00:16.0 Class 0780: 8086:51e0
00:1f.5 Class 0c80: 8086:51a4
00:1f.3 Class 0403: 8086:51ca
00:00.0 Class 0600: 8086:a708
00:12.0 Class 0700: 8086:51fc
00:15.0 Class 0c80: 8086:51e8
00:06.0 Class 0880: 8086:09ab
00:0e.0 Class 0104: 8086:a77f
00:14.2 Class 0500: 8086:51ef
00:02.0 Class 0300: 8086:a7ac
e1:00.0 Class 0108: 144d:a80f
00:14.0 Class 0c03: 8086:51ed
00:1f.4 Class 0c05: 8086:51a3
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bash-5.2# xrandr -q
Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 1920 x 1200, maximum 16384 x 16384
eDP-1 connected primary 1920x1200+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 302mm x 189mm
1920x1200 60.00*+ 59.88 59.95 48.00
1920x1080 60.01 59.97 59.96 59.93
1600x1200 60.00
1680x1050 59.95 59.88
1400x1050 59.98
1600x900 59.99 59.94 59.95 59.82
1280x1024 60.02
1400x900 59.96 59.88
1280x960 60.00
1440x810 60.00 59.97
1368x768 59.88 59.85
1280x800 59.99 59.97 59.81 59.91
1280x720 60.00 59.99 59.86 59.74
1024x768 60.04 60.00
960x720 60.00
928x696 60.05
896x672 60.01
1024x576 59.95 59.96 59.90 59.82
960x600 59.93 60.00
960x540 59.96 59.99 59.63 59.82
800x600 60.00 60.32 56.25
840x525 60.01 59.88
864x486 59.92 59.57
700x525 59.98
800x450 59.95 59.82
640x512 60.02
700x450 59.96 59.88
640x480 60.00 59.94
720x405 59.51 58.99
684x384 59.88 59.85
640x400 59.88 59.98
640x360 59.86 59.83 59.84 59.32
512x384 60.00
512x288 60.00 59.92
480x270 59.63 59.82
400x300 60.32 56.34
432x243 59.92 59.57
320x240 60.05
360x202 59.51 59.13
320x180 59.84 59.32
HDMI-1 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)
DP-1 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)
DP-2 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)
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bash-5.2# xrandr -s 1920x1200
bash-5.2# This is on a new laptop I just got.
Inspiron | 14 7440 2-in-1
I tried a couple other isos that wouldn't come up.
Thanks
I do not use Ventoy myself.
I found this online
Adjust the resolution
In Ventoy' main menu, use F5 Tools --> Resolution Configuration to adjust the Resolution, and then boot the ISO file.
In most cases, choosing a smaller resolution will be better, for example 800x600x16 800x600x32 1024x768x32
Worth a try?
@Jasper
Even changing the resolution in Ventoy didn't change what came up.
I have a frugal install of Bookworm on a usb stick.
Trying this brings up the full resolution of 1920x1200.
But the Display Settings app doesn't allow changing to anything else.
I tried the commands you gave, but it tells me any other size is unavailable.
So Bookworm is capable of the highest resolution, but so far can't change to another resolution.
I wonder why.
Thanks
Post the info provided by Pup-Sysinfo ->Devices ->Display ->Video-info
@bigpup
Thanks
VIDEO REPORT: BookwormPup64, version 10.0.7
Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) 7 150UX.Org X Server 1.21.1.7
X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0Chip description:
0000:00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation Raptor Lake-U [Intel Graphics] [8086:a7ac] (rev 04)
Subsystem: Dell Raptor Lake-U [Intel Graphics] [1028:0ca7]
10000:e0:06.0 PCI bridge [0604]: Intel Corporation Raptor Lake PCIe 4.0 Graphics Port [8086:a74d] (rev 01)
Subsystem: Dell Raptor Lake PCIe 4.0 Graphics Port [1028:0ca7]
Kernel driver in use: pcieportRequested by /etc/X11/xorg.conf:
Modules requested to be loaded: dbeProbing Xorg startup log file (/var/log/Xorg.0.log):
Driver loaded (and currently in use): vesa
Loaded modules: dbe evdev fb fbdevhw glx libinput shadow synapticsActual rendering on monitor:
Resolution: 1920x1200 pixels (508x318 millimeters)
Depth: 24 planesdirect rendering: Yes
server glx vendor string: SGI
server glx version string: 1.4
OpenGL vendor string: Mesa/X.org
OpenGL renderer string: llvmpipe (LLVM 15.0.6, 256 bits)
OpenGL core profile version string: 4.5 (Core Profile) Mesa 22.3.6...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video
@JusGellin
@Jasper
I'm using Ventoy to run these for now
I am confused now.
Are you using Ventoy to boot up your BookWorm OS?
Is this an ISO booting up? (...............ISO/WIM/IMG/VHD(x)/EFI)
Ventoy uses it's own settings and these are restricted to a few resolutions. AFAIK you can change the theme resolution to whatever you want.
To edit this you would need to change the JSON file via the Plugin Editor
https://www.ventoy.net/en/plugin_entry.html
Look at the Ventoy Github 'Issues'
@Jasper
As I mentioned above, I tried changing the resolution in Ventoy.
It acted like it would, but once Bookworm came up it went back to the low resolution of 800x600 75Hz.
So I tried my frugal installed (instead of the Ventoy iso) usb stick which came up with the max resolution of 1920x1200 but not capable of change.
So the information I listed that @bigpup asked for is from that boot up.
I hope that is clear.
Thanks
@JusGellin
Let's wait for Bigpup's reply/solution.
What can I do to get the display resolution selections for this pc?
JusGellin wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2024 12:56 pm@bigpup
ThanksVIDEO REPORT: BookwormPup64, version 10.0.7
Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) 7 150UX.Org X Server 1.21.1.7
X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0Chip description:
0000:00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation Raptor Lake-U [Intel Graphics] [8086:a7ac] (rev 04)
Subsystem: Dell Raptor Lake-U [Intel Graphics] [1028:0ca7]
10000:e0:06.0 PCI bridge [0604]: Intel Corporation Raptor Lake PCIe 4.0 Graphics Port [8086:a74d] (rev 01)
Subsystem: Dell Raptor Lake PCIe 4.0 Graphics Port [1028:0ca7]
Kernel driver in use: pcieportRequested by /etc/X11/xorg.conf:
Modules requested to be loaded: dbeProbing Xorg startup log file (/var/log/Xorg.0.log):
Driver loaded (and currently in use): vesa
Loaded modules: dbe evdev fb fbdevhw glx libinput shadow synapticsActual rendering on monitor:
Resolution: 1920x1200 pixels (508x318 millimeters)
Depth: 24 planesdirect rendering: Yes
server glx vendor string: SGI
server glx version string: 1.4
OpenGL vendor string: Mesa/X.org
OpenGL renderer string: llvmpipe (LLVM 15.0.6, 256 bits)
OpenGL core profile version string: 4.5 (Core Profile) Mesa 22.3.6...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video
Thanks
Hello @JusGellin
Some info found Menu>System>Pup-SysInfo and in SysInfo, choose the report from the Devices>Display section
Hope this helps
@JusGellin
Using the vesa driver is the problem.
This new Intel graphics hardware seems to not have a intel driver for it in BookwormPup64 10.0.8.
Have not found any good info on getting the correct driver installed and working.
May have to wait for a newer kernel and firmware getting into a newer version of BookwormPup64 or some other Puppy Linux version.
People in other Linux OS's are having the same issue.