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geo_c wrote:when I came back the screen was locked and I couldn't figure out how to get back in
I did the same thing! Just type the user password and hit enter. A circle will appear indicating the keystrokes.....
So just walk up and enter the user password.
Yes, but not necessarily for every workspace. In Spectr a keystroke toggles from one view to another. Some applications do better side by side, others stacked vertically. So either toggling or pre-configuring a separate workspace for each view will work for me.
It appears to me that there are keystrokes which pre-configure windows before opening, but I haven't gotten them to work the way described.
What I was able to understand from reading suggests that the underlying mechanism to tile windows is completely different in Bpswm, and so I see a lot of discussion online about how to accomplish control over the splitting decisions, none of it very intuitive however. Those explanations involve rotating node directions and such.
geo_c wrote: ↑Wed Aug 30, 2023 3:17 pm@Sofiya I know you're working on a new version. Some things I'm encountering:
1) The logout gui launched from polybar appears to be disabled on bootup, a pop up window appears with the message "disabled" and when trying to use it to shutdown, a window with a list of options "y,yes,n,no" appears, and it does nothing.
2) I booted and walked away from the machine, when I came back the screen was locked and I couldn't figure out how to get back in. I don't see a key combo in the conf files.
3) gtk-2 apps don't use the gtk-4 theme, even though the theme contains a gtk2-rc, so I guess that should be set in /root/.config/gtk-2.0, by creating a file.
4) should I link ufw to a service to start a firewall? I don't see a gui like gufw (which requires a link also)
5) also it looks like I need to manually link time zone info, which I can do.
Things that do seem to be working well are pulseaudio and pavu,
EDIT It seems though that I might possibly not be using the current CE version, because I downloaded from @rockedge's link. If he used CE_alpha-1.0 for the rootfs then they would be the same.
1)The exit graphical interface launched from the polybar works like this - click on the exit button in the bar, select an option and press "enter" then "y" or "n" press "enter" .
2) screen unlock standard default user password ( root ) - enter
3)did not look for the reason that suits me
4) gufw not installed
5)Default time zone UTC
geo_c wrote: ↑Wed Aug 30, 2023 5:08 pmYes, but not necessarily for every workspace. In Spectr a keystroke toggles from one view to another. Some applications do better side by side, others stacked vertically. So either toggling or pre-configuring a separate workspace for each view will work for me.
It appears to me that there are keystrokes which pre-configure windows before opening, but I haven't gotten them to work the way described.
What I was able to understand from reading suggests that the underlying mechanism to tile windows is completely different in Bpswm, and so I see a lot of discussion online about how to accomplish control over the splitting decisions, none of it very intuitive however. Those explanations involve rotating node directions and such.
@geo
put these lines in /root/.config/sxhkd/sxhkdrc after line 190 , save and exit session super + alt +q
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# Arrange two windows horizontally
super + alt + h
bspc node @parent -R 90
arrange windows horizontally ( super + alt + h )
used CE_alpha-1.0 for the rootfs
I did use the original CE_alpha-1.0 and swapped the kernel components.
At some point after the new assembly is released we can again insert the RT kernel. This way we all are using the same rootfs 
Sofiya wrote: ↑Wed Aug 30, 2023 5:22 pm@geo
put these lines in/root/.config/sxhkd/sxhkdrcafter line 190 , save and exit sessionsuper + alt +qCode: Select all
# Arrange two windows horizontally super + alt + h bspc node @parent -R 90arrange windows horizontally ( super + alt + h )
Yes, that's the rotation I was talking about, although the commands I was trying to paste in were alot more complicated I guess because they also accounted for child windows.
This seems simple enough and exactly what I'm looking for.
Thanks!
I think I'm getting hooked on this window manager. It's nice! Especially with all the polish @Sofiya has added to it already.
KLV-BspwmCE-1.1 Alpha 1
is ready for testing. You can download the build script below,
Script for building with kernel 5.15.94 upup_22_04
A test image is also available KLV-BspwmCE-1.1 Alpha 1
ISO: Kernel -6.1.38 (664M Mib)
https://drive.google.com/file/d/19Vtl7F ... sp=sharing
SUM:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ZYhIm8 ... sp=sharing
Script for building with kernel Kernel -6.1.38
First aid after system boot
Pop-up menu of main hotkeys
Running version 1.1
This OS really pops, I'm a big fan already.
I like pcmanfm, it's a lot like Xfe, which I also installed right away. They both run fast, are easy to configure, and have sensible right click options like "link to"
It's amazing how quick I can get up to speed on a new OS, especially since this also Void. I copy a few directories full of scripts to launch portables, set the gtk themes, and I'm off and running. The puppy forum provides all the necessary tools to be OS independent. Never stuck in a rut.
I'm still seeing that "disable" notification off to the right of the polybar when I boot up. I'll check if it shuts down this time. I tried your suggested key sequence on the old version and that didn't work. I'll have to try it on another machine and see if I run into the same thing.
The horizontal toggle is a great addition to the bpswm config.
Resizing individual windows is a lot easier in bpswm than in spectrwm. super + alt + (left, right)
As soon as I get comfortable with it, I'll try building from the script with additional packages and some of my customizations built-in.
geo_c wrote: ↑Fri Sep 01, 2023 1:06 amRunning version 1.1
I'm still seeing that "disable" notification off to the right of the polybar when I boot up. I'll check if it shuts down this time. I tried your suggested key sequence on the old version and that didn't work. I'll have to try it on another machine and see if I run into the same thing.
You can take a screenshot of what you are talking about, I just do not understand what it is about
maybe on the left? there must be keys to turn on the music - if "mpd" (music player daemon) https://mpd.readthedocs.io/en/latest/user.html is set
geo_c wrote:As soon as I get comfortable with it, I'll try building from the script with additional packages and some of my customization built-in.
There is always the PFI (Pseudo Full Install) method to build up the system! Having a solid PLUG set up to create the entire system by the script will be a great way to share the wealth
Is your system using the RT kernel 6.1.38-rtc ?
Yes, it's the realtime kernel, at least that's what indicated by 00modules-6.1.38-rock-rt13c.sfs. I'm not sure how to check the kernel otherwise.
@williwaw's manual build log gives me a good framework to know what it is I'm actually doing when I try the script build. I could do PFI and then make an iso. I'll have to figure out how to get any machine specific info, like network connections deleted if I do it that way.
geo_c wrote:I'm not sure how to check the kernel otherwise.
Try in a terminal:
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uname -a
uname -rvn
What I'm saying is that I can't seem to get the logout/shutdown options to work. The mouse or arrowkeys do nothing for selecting an option, so pressing y and enter results in the dialog disappearing with no shutdown.
When the desktop loads, right near the "Exit" icon on the polybar I get a message that says" disabled," and I'm guessing these are related, but not sure.
Could it be a hardware mismatch? That's why I mentioned trying it on another machine to see if acts the same way.
Is mpd installed? I've used it in the past.
Yes it's realtime:
I don't know if it's this bpswm OS, or the void repos, but I'm getting some extremely slow download speeds using xbps, like around 20MB/s on average.
Anyone else noticing this today?
geo_c wrote: ↑Fri Sep 01, 2023 2:20 amWhen the desktop loads, right near the "Exit" icon on the polybar I get a message that says" disabled," and I'm guessing these are related, but not sure.
Could it be a hardware mismatch? That's why I mentioned trying it on another machine to see if acts the same way.
Is mpd installed? I've used it in the past.
When the desktop loads, right near the "Exit" icon on the polybar I get a message that says" disabled," and I'm guessing these are related, but not sure.
mm this is already incomprehensible, yes, I think it's worth trying it on another machine
Is mpd installed? I've used it in the past.
No mpd is not installed, in the past I was unable to start this strange service and since then I don't bother anymore
I have not noticed anything unusual. I made a KLV-mini_jwm and it only has a few packages and a bell and one whistle. The build I did was about 3 hours ago in about 12-15 minutes.
I'll keep an eye out...
Same for me. ncmpcpp is a great music player/librarian, and once mpd and ncmpcpp are all configured it's very cool. But it's a pain in the ass to get it going. I had it running on fossapup and jackalpup.
Well it didn't take long at all to get this OS fully loaded and polished.
Now I can look at building it with a script, or PFI. I could do PFI, or I was thinking of simply leaving the original rootfs and squashing an additional upper_changes layer for the studio-g version. It's got Parole, Musikcube, Ardour, 800 lv2 audio plugins, Xfe, gpick, cpupower, and a bunch of terminal apps (calcurse, micro, ranger, htop, neomutt, newsboat, lynx, elinks, w3m, w3m-img, lilypond)
And it seems to me, using Kennel Linux installs, wouldn't it be simple to load a squashed layer of portables and appimages with desktop files to launch them? The squashed layer could be included at any time and on top of any number of the sequence of layers since it doesn't overwrite system files.
The portable layer could be offered separately so as not to impede people with download speed considerations.
With portables included in the package, this system could also have MuseScore4, additional browsers, LibreOffice, Thunderbird, Zoom, DeadBeef, Gimp, Inkspace, and whatever else is available and works in Void.
I am REALLY digging this system. It's lightning fast, I haven't even put the cpu in performance mode yet, still using schedutil. I have a feeling I'll be using KLV-airedale and KLV-spectr a lot less.
edit: My takeaway, Bspwm gives a clean look, cleaner than Xfce, with the workflow/speed advantages of a tiling window manager, @Sofiya's addition of polybar makes for a luxurious desktop.
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geo_c wrote: ↑Fri Sep 01, 2023 2:44 pmI am REALLY digging this system. It's lightning fast, I haven't even put the cpu in performance mode yet, still using schedutil. I have a feeling I'll be using KLV-airedale and KLV-spectr a lot less.
edit: My takeaway, Bspwm gives a clean look, cleaner than Xfce, with the workflow/speed advantages of a tiling window manager, @Sofiya's addition of polybar makes for a luxurious desktop.
I'm very glad that you like it! I feel good when others feel good 