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@fredx181

I just installed fossadog on my machine, runs faster than all the other dogs I have been using. Thanks Dog Guru!

gabtech wrote: ↑Fri May 07, 2021 5:09 am

@fredx181

I just installed fossadog on my machine, runs faster than all the other dogs I have been using. Thanks Dog Guru!

Thanks gabtech, I wonder why that is, perhaps because of systemd enabled.
Btw, I noticed that the download links at the github page were still at an older version (2020-09-19).
Fixed now (2020-11-15, newest version), https://github.com/DebianDog/FossaDog#d ... e-bugfixes.

Fred

gabtech wrote: ↑Fri May 07, 2021 5:09 am

...runs faster than all the other dogs I have been using....

Please explain that. Does it boot faster? Do apps load faster? Do apps run faster?

Do you have any timing data to demonstrate the improvement?

@fredx181

Where can I find devx.sfs? Thanks!

@rcrsn51

Yes, it boots faster, apps load faster and run faster? I once tried busterdog, but it was too slow. Stretchdog32 is my main dog but it does not perform as well as fossadog.

gabtech wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 3:19 am

@fredx181

Where can I find devx.sfs? Thanks!

There is no DEVX for FossaDog, to install basic build tools, I'd say something like:

apt install build-essential automake autoconf libtool pkg-config libcurl4-openssl-dev intltool libxml2-dev libgtk2.0-dev libgtk-3-dev libnotify-dev libglib2.0-dev libevent-dev checkinstall upx-ucl cmake python3 libc6-dev yasm

To install linux-headers:

apt install linux-headers-$(uname -r)

You can make yourself a DEVX.squashfs with apt2sfs by using above packages.

EDIT; 61-DEVX-fossa.squashfs HERE: https://github.com/DebianDog/FossaDog/releases/tag/0.2, Doesnt contain linux-headers, just the build tools.

Fred

@fredx181

Thanks!

Hi fred

Im enjoying fossadog. Running with an rt kernel and yad 10.1. Tethered over usb0 I did nothing to initiate the connection!

I compiled miraclecast on it and needed to install recent systemd udevd and libreadline-dev (not in the repo) ...

good job!
stemsee

My FossaDog goes to sleep/suspend when lid is closed.
I'd like the laptop (Dell D630) to shutdown when the lid is closed.
Where can I find/change the settings please?

Thank you.

dcung wrote: ↑Thu May 20, 2021 9:07 am

My FossaDog goes to sleep/suspend when lid is closed.
I'd like the laptop (Dell D630) to shutdown when the lid is closed.
Where can I find/change the settings please?

Thank you.

Edit '/etc/systemd/logind.conf', find "HandleLidSwitch" so becomes this (uncomment and set to poweroff):

HandleLidSwitch=poweroff
HandleLidSwitchExternalPower=poweroff

Reboot to apply the change, or:
to apply directly (untested, read it on the web):

systemctl restart systemd-logind

Fred

fredx181 wrote: ↑Thu May 20, 2021 3:55 pm

Edit '/etc/systemd/logind.conf', find "HandleLidSwitch" so becomes this (uncomment and set to poweroff):
...
Reboot to apply the change, or:
...
Fred

Now when lid is closed, it shutdowns after making those changes.
Thank you Fred.

I just installed FossaDog on a spare old laptop that has XenialPup64 7.5, and FatDog64 already.
Fujitsu LifeBook S6311 T5600 1.83GHz, 2GB RAM, 80GB HDD.

Sound is not working in FossaDog, but working fine in the other two (XenialPup64 & FatDog64) - btw - I just used YouTube to test sound.
In AlsaMixer it says:
Card - HDA Intel
Chip - Realtek ALC262

I did apt-get update and upgraded all upgradeable using Synaptic Package Manager. There were approx 133 packages got updated, no errors, some warnings. Rebooted and no sound still. That's the end of my knowledge. Anything else that can be done please? Thanks.

On separate issue - nVidia driver.

My 'multimedia box' is currently using Windows10.
I want to replace Windows with FossaDog if I can. I found that video performance is better when using nVidia driver. On my Dell 630 laptop, I use following command to install the driver successfully.

apt-get update
apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
apt-get install nvidia-340 

On this PC, it has nVidia GeForce 7900GS and it does not work when I tried using nvidia-340 driver.
Some googling, tells me to use 304.37 driver. I tried following commands with no luck (from my old notes for DebianDog)

apt-get update
apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
apt-get install nvidia-detect
nvidia-detect #pick the recommended driver
apt-get install nvidia-legacy-304xx-driver

Anyone knows which driver to use please? Thanks.

What driver did the nvidia-detect command recommend? The nvidia-legacy-304xx-driver?

See the discussion here.

rcrsn51 wrote: ↑Wed May 26, 2021 2:49 am

What driver did the nvidia-detect command recommend? The nvidia-legacy-304xx-driver?

See the discussion here.

apt-get install nvidia-detect
apt-get install nvidia-legacy-304xx-driver
apt-get install nvidia-legacy-30437-driver
-> these commands errors out, something about package not found/available.
I'm still fiddling and reading... Trying to see what package name to use.

What happens when you run the "nvidia-detect" command from a terminal?

IIRC, Ubuntu handles nvidia driver detection differently than Debian. Read here.

rcrsn51 wrote: ↑Wed May 26, 2021 3:27 am

What happens when you run the "nvidia-detect" command from a terminal?

bash: nvidia-detect: command not found.

(which is what I expected, since "apt-get install nvidia-detect" -> E: Unable to locate package nvidia-detect)

See my post above.

rcrsn51 wrote: ↑Wed May 26, 2021 3:37 am

See my post above.

I did.

apt-get install ubuntu-drivers-common (-> installed successfully)
ubuntu-drivers devices | grep recommended

came back empty...

ubuntu-drivers devices also came back empty. No errors after running the command.

Then the discussion in the Debian forum probably applies to your situation. These old nvidia cards are no longer supported in Linux.

What driver are you currently using - the nouveau modesetting driver?

I had good results on an old nvidia machine running Debian Buster by switching to the Xorg framebuffer driver. But I don't know how that would work in Ubuntu.

rcrsn51 wrote: ↑Wed May 26, 2021 3:47 am

Then the discussion in the Debian forum probably applies to your situation. These old nvidia cards are no longer supported in Linux.

What driver are you currently using - the nouveau modesetting driver?

Whatever in FossaDog, I think so ie. nouveau.
It works but not acceptable for high resolution (1920x1080) video performance.

Looks like, I still have to use the bloated Windows10 on this PC..

Then the framebuffer driver (see above) probably won't help.

I found this, and google translate shows it in English.
https://lafibre.info/tutoriels-linux/nv ... ntu-18-04/

I knew the chance of success is next to zero. FossaDog is Ubuntu 20.04.
Not knowing what I was doing, I gave it a go anyway...

downloaded the driver, extracted it, patched it.
created /etc/modprobe.d/disable-nouveau.conf accordingly.
update-initramfs -u (in my case return to prompt with nothing, in the screenshot it was generating initrd.img.xxx)

After reboot (it went to 640x480 res), I exited X-windows and installed the nvidia-304 driver (via ./nvidia-installer).
In screenshots it showed X windows config was updated. In my case, it didn't even ask.
After final reboot, it was still 640x480 res. No nvidia splash (on my Dell 630 laptop, this is how I know nvidia driver installed successfully, apart from CPU util drops significantly when playing hi-res video)

Anyway...it's really beyond my depth...

Hi dcung !
I am using a Dell Precision M6600 .
Did install NVIDIA Drivers.
For getting NVIDIA to run i have to disable in BIOS the OTPIMUS option (in BIOS Video Settings )....else it will not run/activate NVIDIA Driver on Reboot.
Not sure if there is something like OPTIMUS in your BIOS Settings for your Dell 630 laptop,
NVIDIA on Dells is really a Pain in the Ass.

Mostly i don`t use NVIDIA Graphic Card .... causing more Heat.I disable NVIDIA Graphic Card by enabling OPTIMUS in BIOS.

@dcung: Did you have the kernel headers package installed? Read here for the Debian instructions. See Method B.

For this issue - Not sure if I should create a separate thread or keep posting on this FossaDog. I don't mind either way. If Fred thinks, I should create separate one, let me know.

The PC involved has following specs:
Asus P5K-E Motherboard, E6750 CoreDuo@2.66GHz, 4GB RAM, GeForce 7900GS GPU card and SSD.

My goal is to replace current Windows10 with any light weight linux that has (latest..ish) Firefox, Chrome and VLC player. My preference is FossaDog, BionicDog, or any other flavour that boots fast.
I have settled on FossaDog/BionicDog since experimenting on puppy linuxes probably 3 years ago in the old forum. So, using FossaDog is my 'ultimate' goal when replacing OS on my old HW collections.

While not completely clueless technically, my linux knowlegde is limited to say the least...
I realised that old nvidia cards are no longer supported in later version of linuxes. So, this is just to experiment and improve my linux knowledge while doing it.

Having found the French link above, I downloaded ubuntu-18.04.5-desktop-amd64.iso and ubuntu-20.04.2.0-desktop-amd64.iso. Only to proof that nVidia driver can be installed (specifically on my HW above).

I started with ubuntu-20. Could not even get proper GUI. I didn't try to fix/troubleshoot.
Switched to ubuntu-18.04.5. Better, GUI interface ok with built-in video driver, so I followed what's in the French link. NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-304.137 installation with some errors (X config part). After reboot, no GUI. Tried startx manually, no joy, errors...
Redo ./nvidia-installer again from non-GUI command prompt as root, same result...
I will try to locate error logs mentioned...(when I'm recharged).

backi wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 1:27 pm

Hi dcung !
I am using a Dell Precision M6600 ...

Hi backi,
FossaDog64 - With Dell D630 laptop, nVidia driver install is surprisingly (and pleasantly) easy. Only 3 lines of commands. See my post above.

rcrsn51 wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 1:29 pm

@dcung: Did you have the kernel headers package installed? Read here for the Debian instructions. See Method B.

@rcrsn51
I blindly followed the French link, and thought this line below included all needed - not sure if kernel headers included.

sudo apt install gcc make build-essential gcc-multilib dkms mesa-utils

I will try installing headers next time I experiment.
I will also try to get Debian light weight later...whichever works, as long as with nVidia driver installed.
EDIT: I think I tried this (Method B and your revised procedure) on Dell D630 back then, and it worked. But since I found the 3 lines command and has been using the 'updated' procedure on Dell D630 (I think it has nvidia quadro nvs 135m).
Need to find procedure that works for my 7900GS now.

Continue on this now
viewtopic.php?f=58&t=3062

There is no blue-alsa package in the repo. Without it bluetooth cannot connect to Audio Sink devices. And compiling it failed due to software in non-standard-prefix. If possible please provide packages; alsa-libs (aptx enabled), blue-alsa (aptx and aac enabled ... requires fdk-aac).

Also /etc/init.d/bluetooth is incomplete or barebones. It would need to start bluealsa, add services using sdptool, obexftpd, obexd etc

bluetoothd -C -E &
obexd -a &
obexftpd -b &
bluetoothctl power on
bluetoothctl agent on
bluetoothctl default-agent
if type bluealsa > /dev/null 2>&1; then
	sleep 2
	bluealsa &
fi
sdptool add OPUSH
sdptool add LAN
sdptool add FTP
sdptool add KEYB
sdptool add HID
sdptool add A2SNK
sdptool add A2SRC
hciconfig hci0 up

Cheers
stemsee

I've done a search to my query, but came up empty.Presently, I have several Puppies frugally installed on a hard drive. There are both 32b and 64b pups. I'd really like to also frugal install FossaDog,
and possibly BusterDog, or whichever Dog you may suggest. However, as I'm not sure how to frugal install(or even if possible) a "Dog",, I would very much appreciate guidance, step by step, PLEASE. BTW-I
used the built-in app "Frugal Installer", in the Pups to do those. Thank you very, very much.

Hello Tosim

Fossadog has frugal install in menu.

I use it daily on my chromebook.

tosim wrote: ↑Wed Jul 07, 2021 3:26 pm

I've done a search to my query, but came up empty.Presently, I have several Puppies frugally installed on a hard drive. There are both 32b and 64b pups. I'd really like to also frugal install FossaDog,
and possibly BusterDog, or whichever Dog you may suggest. However, as I'm not sure how to frugal install(or even if possible) a "Dog",, I would very much appreciate guidance, step by step, PLEASE. BTW-I
used the built-in app "Frugal Installer", in the Pups to do those. Thank you very, very much.

Go to the Debian Live Bullseye Starter Kit thread and get the deblive-multi-installer.