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On a fresh frugal install in the SSD, inserting a line in the jwmrc-personal to move a window with a keyboard shortcut works fine in both BP64 and FP64. After configuration and installing programs I use, the same keyboard shortcut crashes the whole system and end up with a blank screen with a terminal prompt. The problem is very similar to my post in 32bit puppy here, near midpage. viewtopic.php?t=5799&start=40

.deb file suggested by peebee solved the problem, is there a fix for this?

Ubuntu plans to kill-off Bionic Beaver on May 31, https://canonical.com/blog/time-to-prep ... -aws-users, maybe to celebrate Memorial Day,

This has no effect on Ubuntu Pro subscribers which we are not. And rest assured that we can still play with our BionicPup64s. But with access to Ubuntu's repositories becoming complicated at best, it may be time to consider what toys you don't have and stock up before the doors close.

The repos won't disappear completely...... they'll just be frozen and move from:
http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/
to:
http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/

and a "patch" to PPM should allow access....

and Trusty and Xenial have not yet been moved - Precise has - so there is some time before Bionic moves

peebee wrote: Thu May 25, 2023 6:01 am

The repos won't disappear completely...... they'll just be frozen and move from:
http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/
to:
http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/

and a "patch" to PPM should allow access....

and Trusty and Xenial have not yet been moved - Precise has - so there is some time before Bionic moves

Thanks for the info, peebee. I thought they ended up in something call 'pool' where all similarly named packages --without regard to what they relate to-- are grouped together; e.g. http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/libd/

@mikeslr :-

I think you and peebee are, in fact, both right.

Bionic 64's specific 'curated' repos will remain together in their listings, but to access those repos as a set requires the editing of that file in Puppy which I, too, cannot remember the name of ATM.

At the same time, every one of those individual repo packages will also have been archived into /ubuntu/pool; this is where Canonical store every package they've ever built for Ubuntu. This list never gets 'trimmed'; it contains everything going all the way back to Ubuntu 4.10 "Warty Warthog" - released in October of 2004 - and at this point contains nearly 19 years worth of software.....

From what I understand of it, what happens when you select any specific package for any Ubuntu-based Puppy is that the URLs you then get for downloading those packages actually re-direct and point to the relevant page in /ubuntu/pool. So it's all kinda linked together anyway.

(Don't quote me on it, but as near as i can figure it out, I believe this is what happens...)

You can obtain those same packages manually, you need to search via dates instead. But there's no filters or Search function; you just have to manually search each and every list via their included dates to obtain the relevant package that would have been available for any specific release.....

T'other Mike.

mikeslr wrote: Thu May 25, 2023 7:10 pm

I thought they ended up in something call 'pool' where all similarly named packages --without regard to what they relate to-- are grouped together;

Yes - that's correct as @mikewalsh says.....
what is moved to old-releases.ubuntu.com is the repo database (Packages.xz) which PPM uses to find the apps for the release in the pool
the apps themselves remain in the pool

@peebee :-

Doesn't surprise me about Tahr's & Xenial's databases. Precise should have gone April 2017; in the event, it was almost into 2020 before it eventually got moved. I believe this had something to do with the number of enterprise customers Precise had garnered; I understand it was the first Ubuntu release that had been widely adopted by many companies.

I expect to see Tahr's get moved sometime in the next 12 months, but given that this 5-year extension thing has been retro-applied to Trusty as well as most of the others, it's anybody's guess.....

Mike.

peebee wrote: Fri May 26, 2023 6:03 am

the apps themselves remain in the pool

There is a "pool" at both http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ & http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/
so the old apps may also get transferred when the database is transferred