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@esos , @bugnaw333 ,
I have removed Balena Etcher from the AppImage Installer. Reasons in blog post:

https://bkhome.org/news/202306/goodbye- ... image.html

I was shocked reading so many bug reports on their forum.
Plus, my own experience is pretty awful.

In EasyOS we don't need it, we have EasyDD. Maybe Etcher works nicely on Windows?

BarryK wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 1:15 pm

@esos , @bugnaw333 ,
I have removed Balena Etcher from the AppImage Installer. Reasons in blog post:

https://bkhome.org/news/202306/goodbye- ... image.html

I was shocked reading so many bug reports on their forum.
Plus, my own experience is pretty awful.

In EasyOS we don't need it, we have EasyDD. Maybe Etcher works nicely on Windows?

Barry you can't even trust the file managers in Linux when you copy big files to the usb sticks.
Although the progress indicates that the copy operation is done it still writes for some time.
Linux reacts weird to the slow storage devices.

I use this script I picked up from somewhere which a Generic Monitor panel plugin runs periodically every two seconds to display a line on an Xfce panel.
It tells me if the Usb stick is in idle or writing something.

#!/bin/bash

if ls -l /dev/disk/by-path/*usb* &>/dev/null; then

	USB_DET=($(ls -l /dev/disk/by-path/*usb* | grep -v "part" | awk '{print $NF}' | awk -F "/" '{print $NF}' | sort))

	for usb in "${USB_DET[@]}"
	do
		if [ $(awk "{ print \$9 }" /sys/block/$usb/stat) -gt 0 ]
		then
			sector_size=$(cat /sys/block/$usb/queue/hw_sector_size)

			DATA_WRITTEN=$(awk '{load = $7*sector/1000/1000
						printf "%.1f", load}'  sector="$sector_size" /sys/block/$usb/stat)
        		printf "%s: %s%s " "$usb" "$DATA_WRITTEN" "MiB"
		else
			printf "%s: %s " "$usb" "idle"
		fi
	done
else
	echo "USB None"
fi

BarryK wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 1:15 pm

Maybe Etcher works nicely on Windows?

havent tried this myself yet.....

Diskimager

BarryK wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 1:15 pm

@esos , @bugnaw333 ,
I have removed Balena Etcher from the AppImage Installer. Reasons in blog post:

https://bkhome.org/news/202306/goodbye- ... image.html

I was shocked reading so many bug reports on their forum.
Plus, my own experience is pretty awful.

In EasyOS we don't need it, we have EasyDD. Maybe Etcher works nicely on Windows?

Im using EasyDD for EasyOS image and other Linux distro. Etcher works nicely on Windows but I prefer Rufus on .iso that does not have a bootloader.

bugnaw333 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 28, 2023 1:44 am

Im using EasyDD for EasyOS image and other Linux distro. Etcher works nicely on Windows but I prefer Rufus on .iso that does not have a bootloader.

Rufus for Windows.
For Linux spins and respins I'm using EtchDroid on an Android phone with OTP.
Linux on desktops is slow for this task, it takes too much time to write to the USB flash drives.

Maybe try USBImager
https://gitlab.com/bztsrc/usbimager/raw ... -amd64.deb
https://gitlab.com/bztsrc/usbimager/-/tree/master

I got echer.appimage from other source and worked ok. Nothing to do with windows.

williwaw wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 8:09 pm

BarryK wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 1:15 pm

Maybe Etcher works nicely on Windows?

havent tried this myself yet.....

Diskimager

I downloaded Diskimager and unzipped it on a windows7 desktop
It doesn't need to be installed and can be run from the folder. Simple to use, it offers to write an image to disk or a disk to image.

superhik wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 5:20 pm

BarryK wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 1:15 pm

@esos , @bugnaw333 ,
I have removed Balena Etcher from the AppImage Installer. Reasons in blog post:

https://bkhome.org/news/202306/goodbye- ... image.html

I was shocked reading so many bug reports on their forum.
Plus, my own experience is pretty awful.

In EasyOS we don't need it, we have EasyDD. Maybe Etcher works nicely on Windows?

Barry you can't even trust the file managers in Linux when you copy big files to the usb sticks.
Although the progress indicates that the copy operation is done it still writes for some time.
Linux reacts weird to the slow storage devices.

I use this script I picked up from somewhere which a Generic Monitor panel plugin runs periodically every two seconds to display a line on an Xfce panel.
It tells me if the Usb stick is in idle or writing something.

EasyDD uses "sync" parameters for the 'dd' utility, that will only report completed when the write is fully flushed to the drive.

I wrote EasyDD in a few hours (and a few more tweaking it) and it "just works", whereas Balena Etcher started life in 2016 and still has heaps of bugs -- despite being actively developed all that time.

And yes, there are alternatives for Windows that work great. Perhaps Etcher does work ok on Windows.

@ everyone

Hi all, remember to activate Time from Internet on QuickSetup, and also the qsync daemon, otherwise Flapi won't work correctly. It would be appropriate to add a warning for this on Flapi, imho.

AppImage Installer is it works in pyppylinux ?

pup2023 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 13, 2023 11:50 am

AppImage Installer is it works in pyppylinux ?

No.
It could be made to work, but a lot of work to port it.

Good day everyone,

I don't know what problems many of you have with writing .iso or .img files to usb. Most times I download distros with CP, then just copy to laptop and write with EasyDD. Even EasyDD is not necessary, years ago I simply copied the images to usb. Worked also most times, just sometimes faulty.

But one thing I really don't understand: What for you're using Ventoy? If you have for example EasyOS installed on USB, you can install Limemine or grub4dos, and can boot all other distros you put on your stick. No need for complicated Ventoy.

HI,

Would it be possible to test RssGuard Appimage an add it to the installer?

Description:
RSS Guard is a simple RSS/ATOM feed reader for Windows, Linux, BSD, OS/2 or macOS which can work with RSS/ATOM/JSON feeds as well as many online feed services:

Feedly
Gmail
Google Reader API (Bazqux, FreshRSS, Inoreader, Miniflux, Reedah, The Old Reader and more)
Nextcloud News
Tiny Tiny RSS
Link: https://github.com/martinrotter/rssguar ... 4.AppImage

Thanks in advance.

José Pinto

josepinto wrote: ↑Wed Sep 06, 2023 3:40 pm

HI,

Would it be possible to test RssGuard Appimage an add it to the installer?

Description:
RSS Guard is a simple RSS/ATOM feed reader for Windows, Linux, BSD, OS/2 or macOS which can work with RSS/ATOM/JSON feeds as well as many online feed services:

Feedly
Gmail
Google Reader API (Bazqux, FreshRSS, Inoreader, Miniflux, Reedah, The Old Reader and more)
Nextcloud News
Tiny Tiny RSS
Link: https://github.com/martinrotter/rssguar ... 4.AppImage

Thanks in advance.

José Pinto

For add RssGuard to Appi (the Appimage installer)

- copy this png in /usr/share/pixmaps

-In /usr/local/appimage/entries/amd64 add the line

<item icon-name=\"rssguard\">RssGuard|${FLGrssguard}|161M|$(gettext 'RSS Guard is a simple feed reader')</item>

(For the description : RSS Guard is a simple feed reader, you can change it. It's the text displayed in Appi. See at the bottom of the picture :

I had added the line at the end of the section ENTRIESnetwork

- in /usr/local/appimage add the line

 RssGuard) DIRECTDL='https://github.com/martinrotter/rssguard/releases/download/4.5.0/rssguard-4.5.0-7175578b6-linux64.AppImage'; DIRECTVER='4.5.0'; MENUcat='X-Internet-browser'; MENUtop='Internet'; MENUname='RssGuard'; ;;

at the list of appimages after case "${aAPP}" in (line 217)

NB : I do not know all the categories in MENUcat so i have chosen X-Internet-browser already in the list

I have tested the installation but not the software.

Came across an alternative AppImage installer that seems to be based on the way Arch Linux AUR does things. Quite a few people in the dev team for it. See my post here for brief summary related to my trial of it: https://forum.puppylinux.com/viewtopic. ... 990#p99990

I'm interested to know how it compares to this EasyOS AppImage installer.

wiak wrote: ↑Sat Sep 30, 2023 9:44 am

I'm interested to know how it compares to this EasyOS AppImage installer.

EasyOS AppImage Installer:

1. GUI app
2. Installs each app to run as it's own user. For example, OpenShot will run as user "openshot" with home folder /home/openshot -- other apps cannot see into it.
3. AppImages install directly to the working-partition, not within the folder-hierarchy that runs in RAM. For example, not under /opt.
4. Updating supported.
5. /files/apps/<app name> special folder created, for saving project files, that other apps cannot see into. This is also direct to the working-partition.

Pretty much EasyOS-specific. In theory, could be made to run on some other pup-derivative, but quite a lot of work involved in the port.

I have never tried app image version Balena Etcher in Easy. But have had it for long time in MX-19 and its worked flawlessly. I dont remember where I got it, but its balenaEtcher-1.7.9-x64.AppImage. Been while now, but think Rufus will run in WINE, know I tried it at one point, but too long ago to remember any details. dd is of course always an option. I just kept using balenaEtcher cause it worked and stupid simple interface.

Stand alone Balena etcher appimage will work on EasyOS but not the installed version before.

I would suggest Thorium browser to integrate as installable AppImage. Its a quite fast, effective and more recent version of a Chromium fork as "ungoogled Chromium"