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Re: Pale Moon 'portables' - current release 29.0.0

Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2021 4:00 pm
by mikewalsh

@keniv :-

Like I said, Ken, I'm just grateful that somebody out there has taken it upon themselves to compile a 32-bit build - with all the work that entails - given that 32-bit is now "persona non grata" as far as MoonChild Productions are concerned.

While Steve keeps building & providing the .deb packages, I'll keep producing the 'portables'. I don't expect it to last for ever; we'll see what transpires, eh?

I don't blame YOU for your feedback, y'know. It's a real PITA not being able to run these in older Puppies any more, but that's the march of technology for ya!

Mike. ;)


Re: Pale Moon 'portables' - current release 29.0.0

Posted: Sat Feb 06, 2021 3:42 pm
by xenial

Re: Pale Moon 'portables' - current release 29.0.0

Posted: Sat Feb 06, 2021 5:50 pm
by mikewalsh

@xenial :-

As soon as Steve uploads an update, I'll work my magic with it. Be patient!

Mike. ;)


Re: Pale Moon 'portables' - current release 29.0.0

Posted: Sat Feb 06, 2021 6:26 pm
by xenial
mikewalsh wrote: Sat Feb 06, 2021 5:50 pm

@xenial :-

As soon as Steve uploads an update, I'll work my magic with it. Be patient!

Mike. ;)

@mikewalsh i downloaded and am using the .debfile which rockedge kindly linked me to but steve pusser is apparently unaware of that download...kind of strange. :thumbup2:


Re: Pale Moon 'portables' - current release 29.0.0

Posted: Sat Feb 06, 2021 7:19 pm
by keniv

@mikewalsh
Hello Mike,
It's just struck me I should have perhaps mentioned an issue with the new v29.0.0. When I first ran it I got an error about the profile. When I looked inside the palemoon32 directory the profile directory was shown as a symbolic link to a directory which when I look at it now might be a directory on your machine i.e. /mnt/sda3/SYSTEM/BROWSERS/PROFILES/Palemoon/profile. It wasn't a problem for me as I renamed it and sym linked to my existing profile, however, I supposed if you hadn't previously used palemoon you wouldn't have an already made profile. I assume if you deleted your sym link and replaced it with an empty directory named profile this would allow you to make a profile but I'm not sure of this so I thought it was worth a mention.

Regards,

Ken.


Re: Pale Moon 'portables' - current release 29.0.0

Posted: Sat Feb 06, 2021 8:28 pm
by mikewalsh

@keniv :-

No, any time you see this 'leftover', please do let me know. It's a legacy of the way I build my updated versions....

I have a directory on an external partition. This has two sub-directories; one for all the 64-bit 'portable' browsers, and the other for all the 64-bit 'portable' browsers.

At 'upgrade' time, I copy the known 'working' example across to my WORK area. I then modify as necessary, and test.....and while this is going on, I leave the profiles linked-in. Even if I didn't, it would still create a new one. The trouble is that I do all this late at night, usually when I getting pretty tired.....and I don't always remember to remove the profile/profile 'link' before packing them. :oops:

Anyway, thanks for letting me know. Re-packed/re-uploaded as it should be, this time. Good catch!

Mike. ;)


Re: Pale Moon 'portables' - current release 29.0.0

Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 10:58 am
by mikewalsh

Update for the Steve Pusser-based 32-bit Pale Moon 29:-

PaleMoon32-portable+ - v29.0.1

Cheers, Steve! :thumbup:

Mike. ;)


Re: Pale Moon 'portables' - newest 32-bit : 29.0.1

Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 2:39 pm
by keniv

@mikewalsh
Thanks for this. I noticed it had been updated on the 64bit pups. Didn't take long to go from 29.0.0 to 29.0.1. Again working in DpupStretch 7.5 and Racy 5.5.1.

Regards,

Ken.


Re: Pale Moon 'portables' - newest 32-bit : 29.0.1

Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 3:54 pm
by mikewalsh

@keniv :-

Hi, Ken.

Yes, well.....basically, continuing updates on this thread will now be for Steve's 32-bit compilations. The 64-bit 'portable' will keep itself updated, because it's the 'official', supported build nowadays. Since 32-bit is no longer supported, Steve will have to keep building each new release as it comes out, direct from the source code. Not a task I envy him, I must say; compiling a browser is no small undertaking, I know THAT much.

Rest assured, so long as I have a source to work with, I will attempt to keep these 32-bit 'portable' builds updated for as long as is possible. All credit goes to Steve Pusser, of course.

Mike. ;)


Re: Pale Moon 'portables' - newest 32-bit : 29.0.1

Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2021 4:08 pm
by xenial

@mikewalsh
Thanks for your upkeep of the 32bit versions.The first link that rockedge providied is now down and i am not sure which .debfile i could use from the opensuse page as it provides several debian versions.

i tried to download your portable version and apparently it refused saying i was offline...???...eh lol. :D
The toxic mentality of the pale moon developers is steering me away from the browser to be perfectly honest and i really only keep it around for flash content.

I am finding firefox ESR works great at the minute and if pushed i would steer towards vivaldi if a chromium based browser is "NEEDED".

thanks. :thumbup2:


Re: Pale Moon 'portables' - newest 32-bit : 29.0.1

Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2021 2:43 am
by rockedge

@xenial

I fixed the link in the original post and also the file is reachable here: https://download.opensuse.org/repositor ... 0.10/i386/


Re: Pale Moon 'portables' - newest 32-bit : 29.0.1

Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2021 10:07 am
by xenial

@rockedge
Thanks rockedge. :thumbup2:

That was shortlived.
browser will not even start or open.I have tried installing by just clicking on the downloaded debfile and it installs as a petfile but then nothing nada.

I extracted and tried running the script in folder and sweet bugger all.

i surrender lol. :D


Re: Pale Moon 'portables' - newest 32-bit : 29.0.1

Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2021 1:31 pm
by rockedge

That's not great news! I'll give it a test also which I have not yet. There are some other forks I've heard of so maybe I can dig one up.


Re: Pale Moon 'portables' - newest 32-bit : 29.0.1

Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2021 3:16 pm
by mikewalsh
xenial wrote: Thu Feb 11, 2021 10:07 am

@rockedge
Thanks rockedge. :thumbup2:

That was shortlived.
browser will not even start or open.I have tried installing by just clicking on the downloaded debfile and it installs as a petfile but then nothing nada.

I extracted and tried running the script in folder and sweet bugger all.

i surrender lol. :D

@xenial :-

Umm.....what d'you get if you start it from the terminal? The only thing I can think of that might give 'issues' is the need for a newer libstdc++.so.6, but the one I ended up employing for the new portables is Xenialpup's anyway.

BTW:- I have come across cases where a .deb package would install, then refuse to run.....and didn't even give a reason for failure in the terminal. The current Skype-for-Linux, for instance; I then found that by re-building it as a .pet, everything functioned perfectly.....including terminal error-reporting!

Mike. ;)


Re: Pale Moon 'portables' - newest 32-bit : 29.0.1

Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2021 4:18 pm
by xenial

@mikewalsh
Thanks mike.
I have no idea how to build as a petfile.
i did try to download your portable version but it would not download for some reason. :)


Re: Pale Moon 'portables' - newest 32-bit : 29.0.1

Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2021 4:25 pm
by mikewalsh
xenial wrote: Thu Feb 11, 2021 4:18 pm

@mikewalsh
Thanks mike.
I have no idea how to build as a petfile.
i did try to download your portable version but it would not download for some reason. :)

Ri-i-ight. Okay; what did you try downloading with? I'm only asking because, if it was Palemoon itself, it seems to have issues with downloading/verifying stuff from Google's Drive. Don't ask me why; I probably know about as much as you for the reasons behind that one.

I'll put it up over at MediaFire; see if you can download it OK from there. I'll let you have the link shortly. Bear with me...

Mike. ;)


Re: Pale Moon 'portables' - newest 32-bit : 29.0.1

Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2021 4:36 pm
by xenial

@mikewalsh
Yea it was complaining about the virus scan or something like that.
Thanks for your help,much appreciated. :thumbup2:


Re: Pale Moon 'portables' - newest 32-bit : 29.0.1

Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2021 4:38 pm
by mikewalsh

@xenial :-

Try this one @ MediaFire. Let us know if the download works here for you, please.

http://www.mediafire.com/folder/avhjgdc ... ale+Moon++

Mike. ;)


Re: Pale Moon 'portables' - newest 32-bit : 29.0.1

Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2021 5:02 pm
by xenial

That one fires up a treat mike and many thanks. :thumbup2:


Re: Pale Moon 'portables' - newest 32-bit : 29.0.1

Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2021 3:54 pm
by keniv

@mikewalsh
Hi Mike decided to try QuickPup 20.6.6 which is 32bit. It uses SeaMonkey which I have never really got on with and may potentially have the issue of keeping the 32bit version up to date. I've just tried your portable version of palemoon (29.0.1) and I'm posting from it now. So this is yet another 32bit pup that can make use of this method of maintaining an up to date browser. Thought this might be of interest.

Regards,

Ken.

Edit: Iron portable also works.


Re: Pale Moon 'portables' - newest 32-bit : 29.0.1

Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2021 6:26 pm
by mikewalsh
keniv wrote: Tue Feb 23, 2021 3:54 pm

@mikewalsh
Hi Mike decided to try QuickPup 20.6.6 which is 32bit. It uses SeaMonkey which I have never really got on with and may potentially have the issue of keeping the 32bit version up to date. I've just tried your portable version of palemoon (29.0.1) and I'm posting from it now. So this is yet another 32bit pup that can make use of this method of maintaining an up to date browser. Thought this might be of interest.

Regards,

Ken.

Edit: Iron portable also works.

@keniv :-

Hi, Ken. Busy with dinner ATM, but anyways; thanks for the info..!

Cheers.

Mike. ;)


Re: Pale Moon 'portables' - newest 32-bit : 29.0.1

Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2021 5:22 pm
by xenial

Re: Pale Moon 'portables' - newest 32-bit : 29.0.1

Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2021 6:30 pm
by mikewalsh

@xenial:-

Thanks for the 'heads-up'. As before, need to wait & see if Steve 'does his thing' before I can act, I'm afraid.

Cheers, anyway.

Mike. ;)


Re: Pale Moon 'portables' - newest 32-bit : 29.0.1

Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2021 8:35 pm
by Dingo
mikewalsh wrote: Tue Mar 02, 2021 6:30 pm

@xenial:-

Thanks for the 'heads-up'. As before, need to wait & see if Steve 'does his thing' before I can act, I'm afraid.

Cheers, anyway.

Mike. ;)

Can your scripts make also 64 bit versions of palemoon portable? I like palemoon, but it has the bad behavior to fill slowly my root directory writing data that I need to manually erase


Re: Pale Moon 'portables' - newest 32-bit : 29.0.1

Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2021 8:46 pm
by amethyst

I like palemoon, but it has the bad behavior to fill slowly my root directory writing data that I need to manually erase

That's normally the browser cache. You can set the size in the browser preferences. To get it out of /root, move the /root/.moonchild productions folder to your partition and symlink it back to /root.


Re: Pale Moon 'portables' - newest 32-bit : 29.0.1

Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2021 9:54 pm
by mikewalsh

Okey-doke.

New 32-bit portable version now available - v29.1.0.

Sorry for the delay, guys; I was mis-reading the version info on Steve's repo page. At a quick, cursory glance, it's easy to mistake 29.1.0 for 29.0.1.....

Available from here:-

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/ ... sp=sharing

:oops: :oops:

Mike. ;)


Re: Pale Moon 'portables' - newest 32-bit : 29.0.1

Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2021 10:55 am
by keniv
mikewalsh wrote: Sun Mar 21, 2021 9:54 pm

Okey-doke.

New 32-bit portable version now available - v29.1.0.

Sorry for the delay, guys; I was mis-reading the version info on Steve's repo page. At a quick, cursory glance, it's easy to mistake 29.1.0 for 29.0.1.....

Available from here:-

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/ ... sp=sharing

:oops: :oops:

Mike. ;)

Hi Mike,
Thanks again for this update. I can report, as usual, one install has it working in DpupStretch, QuickPup and Racy.

Regards,

Ken.


Re: Pale Moon 'portables' - newest 32-bit : 29.0.1

Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2021 11:29 am
by amethyst
keniv wrote: Mon Mar 22, 2021 10:55 am
mikewalsh wrote: Sun Mar 21, 2021 9:54 pm

Okey-doke.

New 32-bit portable version now available - v29.1.0.

Sorry for the delay, guys; I was mis-reading the version info on Steve's repo page. At a quick, cursory glance, it's easy to mistake 29.1.0 for 29.0.1.....

Available from here:-

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/ ... sp=sharing

:oops: :oops:

Mike. ;)

Hi Mike,
Thanks again for this update. I can report, as usual, one install has it working in DpupStretch, QuickPup and Racy.

Regards,

Ken.

Has something been added to the portable version (in comparison to the .deb download from Steven Pusser) to make it work with Racy?


Re: Pale Moon 'portables' - newest 32-bit : 29.0.1

Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2021 12:28 pm
by keniv

@amethyst
I expect Mike will correct me if I'm wrong but I think it's got more to do with what I have added to Racy. I'm replying from a phone just now but later this afternoon I'll list what's added if that would be of interest to you.

Regards,

Ken.


Re: Pale Moon 'portables' - newest 32-bit : 29.0.1

Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2021 12:43 pm
by mikewalsh

@amethyst :-

Nic, the only thing I've added into the mix recently was a newer libstdc++.so.6. This was needed from the tail end of the 28-series; around v26.16.0, IIRC.

As Ken says, it's more likely to do with what he's added to Racy. I know when I was running Racy on the old hardware, the stuff I borrowed and added-in from various other Puppies (mainly Precise & Raring) was unreal.....simply to get things working. I was quite pleased when watchdog introduced the concept of a chrooted Puppy to allow running far more up-to-date apps (like browsers) in older Pups, because it immediately made life a whole lot simpler. :D

Mike. ;)