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Re: What issues with NoblePup need to be resolved?

Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2024 8:54 am
by Jasper

@williams2 ....... wallpaper background requested not Rox-Filer background

possible to set a solid color background for the desktop area. The only options are wallpaper

@Luluc


Re: What issues with NoblePup need to be resolved?

Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2024 10:23 am
by LateAdopter
Clarity wrote: Tue Dec 03, 2024 11:11 pm

Is your psave OR savespec pointing to a file or the folder where the sessions are saved?

Can you post BOTH?

  • boot menu line with its psave AND the contents of the SAVESPEC

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Hello Clarity
I put the kernel and Puppy files in a directory on one partition. I rename the bdrv so that it doesn't load automatically. I don't use fdrv because the firmware is in the zdrv.
I currently have three savefiles in a directory on another partition. Two are using Puppy Package Manager and one is using bdrv and synaptic.
Currently all three are using AUFS.

SAVESPEC contains

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SS_ID='NET_SSD'
SS_DIR='/np64a5'

I have separate menu.lst entries for each variant that define exactly what is wanted. Here is an example.

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title NoblePup64 AUFS Vivaldi (sda2/np64)
  rootnoverify (hd0,1)
  kernel /np64/vmlinuz6190  intel_pstate=active pupsfs=sda2:/np64/puppy_upup64n_24.11.sfs zdrv=sda2:/np64/zdrv-fd6190m.sfs psave=sda5:/np64a5/upup64nsave-A.2fs pmedia=atahd psubdir=np64 punionfs=aufs
  initrd /np64/early_ucode.cpio /np64/initrd.gz

I use sda? on fixed disks and label on removable media.

My interpretation is that SAVESPEC is there so that init can find the savefile the first time someone creates a savefile and puts it in a different location. The problem is that, if SAVESPEC exists init ignores psave= completely so you can't use separate directories for savefiles and it asks which one in the directory even if it is already specified by psave=

I think psave= , if it exists, should take precedence over SAVESPEC. I am quite familiar with the workings of Puppy so it didn't take long to find the culprit.


Re: What issues with NoblePup need to be resolved?

Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2024 11:29 am
by MochiMoppel
Luluc wrote: Wed Dec 04, 2024 1:36 am

I am not sure, pardon me if I'm wrong (I've been testing so many puppies and dogs lately), but I think it's not possible to set a solid color background for the desktop area.

It is possible, assuming that you are using ROX.

The only options are wallpaper (photo) or "Clear" which produces an ugly shade of gray that cannot be replaced with any other color.

The "Clear" in the "Set backdrop" dialog (right click any icon and choose "Backdrop") removes the wallpaper image and shows the Pinpoard background. The Pinboard background color may initially be an ugly gray, but can be changed. See @williams2 's explanation.

@Jasper Why did you dismiss williams2's answer? In my understanding "solid color background" does not mean a wallpaper in a solid color but rather a background with no graphic elements, just plain color. Loading a plain color image on top of a plain color background makes no sense to me if the background already has the same color as the image.


Re: What issues with NoblePup need to be resolved?

Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2024 2:19 pm
by Luluc

Making a graphic file with a solid color is a hack meant to make up for something that the implementation seems to lack. @williams2 's explanation is the one that makes sense, but it's pretty obscure. I would never have found it by myself.


Re: What issues with NoblePup need to be resolved?

Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2024 10:08 pm
by Jasper

@MochiMoppel

My understanding of "desktop area" is the space occupied by wallpaper.

Personally I would not describe the area inside of Rox-Filer as such. This to me is "workspace".

Each to their own.


Re: What issues with NoblePup need to be resolved?

Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2024 10:36 pm
by Clarity

Hello @LateAdopter and other members

SAVESPEC and PSAVE intend to do the same thing. These are NOT file oriented.

PSAVE/SAVESPEC point to the directory of sessions. INIT will find them; either the distro session folder or its session file within.

Try that change.

Enjoy


Re: What issues with NoblePup need to be resolved?

Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2025 4:10 pm
by mikeslr

No Right-Click Trash option when running PupMode5.

See my post here, viewtopic.php?p=144741#p144741. NoblePup has the same issue.