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Possibly Sofiya is responsible for deforming early concepts of this one???!:

The creators of VectorLinux had a single credo: keep it simple, keep it small and let the end user decide what their operating system is going to be. What has evolved from this concept is perhaps the best little Linux operating system available anywhere. For the casual computer user there is a lightening-fast desktop with graphical programs to handle daily activities from web surfing, sending and receiving email, chatting on IRC to running an FTP server. The power user will be pleased because all the tools are there to compile programs, use the system as a server or perhaps the gateway for home or office computer network. Administrators will be equally pleased because of the small size and memory requirements, so the operating system can be deployed on older machines that have long been forgotten.

@oui I am watching you closely now. You can't hide behind German nor French.

I especially don't like waking up checking the site and seeing posts like what you've written......

my advice is to go use EasyOS and keep it to yourself.

mikewalsh wrote: ↑Sun Jul 14, 2024 9:18 am

@oui / @Sofiya :-

Guys, guys; ease on down. This is a friendly thread, and we don't need to start arguments, now.......do we? Everybody is entitled to their own opinion.

@oui :-

You have to understand, since Puppy first started it has spawned a whole host of other small lightweight OSs, for which Puppy was - to a greater or lesser degree - the inspiration. These other OSs are NOT Puppy, of course, but they operate under the same sort of principles.......and because of this, they will always have a home here, under the broad Puppy umbrella.

Try 'em out! You may find you actually LIKE some of them.....

Mike.

I did really spend a lot of time exactly for that! And I find the action interesting but not the silence to the questions

wiak wrote: ↑Sun Jul 14, 2024 10:10 am

oui wrote: ↑Sun Jul 14, 2024 8:07 am

Sofiya wrote: ↑Sat Jul 13, 2024 10:13 pm

@oui open your own topic and write whatever you want there, don’t bother me here

are you angry? you deform Puppy fare from concept of Barry Kauler, erase standard app's from him and will approbation?

The above comment about deforming Puppy is disgraceful nonsense and not of course welcome in this KL development thread. It also shows lack of knowledge of the history of union filesystems. I happened to start my UNIX-related life in 1990 on Sun microsystem workstations and layered filesystems were often used by that time. In fact Sun introduced and employed these concepts that Sofiya (?) is being accused of 'deforming'; Sun had used them several years prior to my own research group early experiences:

Refer re: union filesystems Wikipedia

Sun Microsystems introduced the first implementation of a stacked, layered file system with copy-on-write, whiteouts (hiding files in lower layers from higher layers), etc. as the Translucent File Service in SunOS 3, circa 1986

I suspect Knoppix was the best known user of such techniques in more recent PC decades, but there were several small distros released using aufs or some earlier version of union filesystem. Puppy Linux was certainly a nice small distro implementation so maybe we should all thus now stop further distros using union filesystems. Ridiculous attitude really.

These relatively recent union filesystem based distros were almost certainly all inspired by this (2004) paper, that included examples on how to do it: https://dl.acm.org/doi/fullHtml/10.5555/1044970.1044978
Credit, truly, where most credit is due.

Note, by the way, the original puppy had no union filesystem at all.

oh wiak, why so aggressive? you find if you insult us, see above the marked passages, we will really progress? we are here in the Puppy Linux community. Other communities like https://sourceforge.net/directory/linux/ exist and give all tools and discussions plateforme for each willing present something really different. Actually KDE-plasma-Void-CE ( Release ) is completely different from Puppy excepted the thread did appear on the forum from Puppy Linux. But I repeat: I find the action interesting, and will ignore your message to give freedom a chance. But be please polished in the future...

Sofiya wrote: ↑Sun Jul 14, 2024 8:41 am

Remote desktop access
Added: not installed by default

It is now possible to enable remote access to the desktop with one button directly from System Preferences. Once activated, the user can connect to the KDE Plasma desktop from another computer using RDP.

WOW! This, though minor or misunderstood (I feel) by most, is a significant addition to this distro. @Sofiya, this is a fantastic update to your project.

I hope the community understands the significance of this single addition...especially for 2 reasons (there's more, of course):

1. ability to take advantage of this PC desktop from other LAN locations

2. ability to administer this PC from other LAN locations within the home

The functionality, the performance, and the fact that is operates with STABILITY makes this a premire project from you and the KL team, overall.

Congratulations to you; yet again.

rockedge wrote: ↑Sun Jul 14, 2024 12:27 pm

@oui I am watching you closely now. You can't hide behind German nor French.

I especially don't like waking up checking the site and seeing posts like what you've written......

my advice is to go use EasyOS and keep it to yourself.

I don't know why you have to give me some recommendation like this! Will you perhaps inform us, that you think, the real Puppy Linux is back to Barry Kauler with his EasyOS, and the actual stuff discussed here does the same as Chine products under many old German brands: only use the brand to rap the attention of people for somewhat more and more totally different? Hm... If you think it is good! Since 2004 I spend many time on the Puppy Linux forum for the initial idea of Puppy linux: This make that little distribution unique and worth. Not new developement trying to make out the name a publicity pass for the trying to diffuse under that name somewhat completely different. We did already have a KDE for Puppy but a KDE sfs completely compatible with Puppy exactly as each good and real Puppy sfs extension...

Hello @oui

oui wrote: ↑Sun Jul 14, 2024 1:50 pm

... Since 2004 I spend many time on the Puppy Linux forum for the initial idea of Puppy linux: This make that little distribution unique and ...

The notion that somehow 2004 and today are to be kept in the same regard is questionable, dont you think? Step back, if you will, an consider the differences from 2004 to now. If you see none, I'm sorry.

One of the reasons Barry left was, I think, because he saw different pathway(s) forward and has demonstrated just that. You know, distro build, distro packaging, distro size, etc. He is not stuck in 2004, either,

I am NOT objecting to your perception, but do find that as you express a sense of history you are stuck on a premise that, to me, is a personal one VERSUS the progression of the technologies and the advantages that have moved forward in time.

Here's hoping you might want to reconsider your current position.

BTW: Can this discussion about PUPPY and its past be better placed somewhere else. The work of @Sofiya and other contributors should NOT have to be derailed by a past notion lost in time?

@oui If you write nonsense, you are asking for criticism.

oui wrote:

you deform Puppy fare from concept of Barry Kauler, erase standard app's from him and will approbation?

So, are we all obliged to follow Barry Kauler's concepts from many years ago ? Don't think so.
Stop trolling !

edit:

Actually KDE-plasma-Void-CE ( Release ) is completely different from Puppy

Ok, yes, different from traditional Puppy, so... what ?
edit: Btw, this (and all in this forum section) is not called "Puppy Linux", it is called "Kennel Linux" (KL).

@oui This is not a Puppy Linux and never was intended too be one. It is similar in operation but so is Puppy Linux to it's own forerunners.

Puppy is Puppy, DebianDog is DD, FatDog is it's own level, and Kennel Linux is also a layered system and combines ideas. They all are similar in some ways and different in others

@oui :-

I have to agree with everything that's been said in the last several posts. Remember, too, that even many of us who DO tend to stick with "traditional" Puppy often modify the hell out of it.....so strictly speaking, even these are no longer exactly Puppies as they were originally envisaged.

But.......who's complaining?

This forum is, I feel, unique in one major respect; it's a 'melting-pot' for a whole smorgasbord of ideas, concepts and practical applications.......so many of which you can more or less "mix-and-match" (after probably some modifications, of course). One that you will NOT find anywhere else. Instead of criticising, be thankful there IS so much to experiment & 'play' with!

Mike.

KLV-plasma-KDE-CE-1.1 ... Wayland +Pipewire stable ( release )
There is also a choice of KDE-plasma-Void X11

ISO: ( 1.32 GB )
https://github.com/sofijacom/KLV-plasma ... oid-CE-1.1

• password:spot

  login:spot

Enjoy and have fun!!!

KDE-plasma-Void-CE-1.1

KDE-plasma-Void-CE ( Release )

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The Table of KLV KDE ISO file boot results, by version, are posted here.
..

Settings >> System Options >> Appearance >> colors and designs >> 2) Upload new designs
Theme -> Wings-Light-Global-6

Gwenview - Fast and easy to use image viewer by KDE

Sofiya wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2024 5:27 pm

Gwenview - Fast and easy to use image viewer by KDE

Do you like the kde apps suite? I always liked KDE apps but think the DE is too busy.

williwaw wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2024 8:12 pm

Sofiya wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2024 5:27 pm

Gwenview - Fast and easy to use image viewer by KDE

Do you like the kde apps suite? I always liked KDE apps but think the DE is too busy.

not All. This build of KDE is minimal, without pre-installed KDE applications. the choice of applications is up to the user .Otherwise, its size would exceed 3 Gigabytes

Design of the "Jade_kde" working environment

Sofiya wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2024 10:25 pm

Design of the "Jade_kde" working environment

is it available in the repos or just a confuguration within your iso?

interesting review by Bruce Byfield (who did a nice review of puppy recently)
https://www.linux-magazine.com/Online/F ... nvironment

williwaw wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2024 11:13 pm

Sofiya wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2024 10:25 pm

Design of the "Jade_kde" working environment

is it available in the repos or just a confuguration within your iso?

interesting review by Bruce Byfield (who did a nice review of puppy recently)
https://www.linux-magazine.com/Online/F ... nvironment

available in the repos

KDE-plasma-Void-CE

@Sofiya I like this bar/panel! Has all the information and is easy to see the important parts. Looks good as well.

Ranger Alternative -> Yazi

Installation sudo xbps-install -Su yazi
To use Yazi, you must have the following prerequisites installed:

file (for file type detection)
Yazi can be optionally extended with other command line tools to enable additional features.

• nerd-fonts-ttf (recommended)
  ffmpegthumbnailer (for video thumbnails)
  unar (for archive preview)
  jq (for JSON preview)
  poppler (for PDF preview)
  fd (for file searching)
  fzf (for quick file subtree navigation)
  zoxide (for historical directories navigation)
  xclip / wl-clipboard / xsel (for system clipboard support)

_______________________________________________________________________________________________

/home/spot/.config/yazi

KDE-plasma-Void-CE

## catppuccin-kde-install-themes

1. git clone --depth=1 https://github.com/catppuccin/kde catppuccin-kde && cd catppuccin-kde
2. Run the install script using "./install.sh "  and follow the instructions.

Hi Sofiya,

Very nice operating system. Before I do anything drastic I thought I should ask. I noticed
" password:spot
login:spot"

Having logged in am I really running as "spot" a limited & User; or was this an easy way to enable logging in; or something else?

And if I am running as a limited User, how to I elevate to Administrator?

mikeslr wrote: ↑Sat Jul 20, 2024 11:29 pm

Hi Sofiya,

Very nice operating system. Before I do anything drastic I thought I should ask. I noticed
" password:spot
login:spot"

Having logged in am I really running as "spot" a limited & User; or was this an easy way to enable logging in; or something else?

And is I am running as a limited User, how to I elevate to Administrator?

Having logged in am I really running as "spot" a limited & User; or was this an easy way to enable logging in; or something else?

Hi @mikeslr

Yes, after logging in, you work as "spot", but with the "Administrator" account. to change and add files, right-click and select (open as Administrator > password spot)

KDE-plasma-Void-CE

catppuccin-kde-themes

Conky - improved

Hard drive temperature readings have been added to Conky

Just a minor observation between the difference of how screens are rendered comparing Wayland and X11. In Wayland everything appears bigger, panels, firefox page rendering and even the conky display. I've checked in Display Settings and screens is 1920 x 1080 and 100%. So it seems pixels in Wayland and X11 are somehow different.

When changing back to Wayland from X11 the panel is noticeably larger, requiring to reduce the pixel size, by about 6 points to appear a similar size. In firefox I normally set the zoom setting to 120% as 1920 x 1080 on a small 14" screen is too small for my old eyes. My firefox home page which is a start.me page containing all launchers, the launchers are significantly larger, I have changed the zoom back to 100%. The conky display changes position when swapping. I created a second .conkyrc file altering the offsets and some font sizes to compensate, to be able to swap between Wayland and X11. I even in the Wayland version left the hard coded Russian word for Day as a little homage to @Sofiya for her great work! Thank you.