F96-CE_4 Latest Stable Release

[Clarity]

Yes, I do performance test using Hardinfo.

Seems 'maybe' your video card and the video subsystem struggle a bit.

Oh well, hardware differences may be why I dont have the same problem(s) you see.

[ChrisH]

Hi @rockedge (and friends),

Following from our discussion about fixing my Vassal implementation problem on this thread I'm trying to download the iso for F96-CE_4 so that I can try implementing Vassal on that distro.

Unfortunately every attempt to download it ends with a Secure Connection Failed error.

It doesn't matter which route I take to do that, whether from your webpage, from the ISO link or from the Puppy Linux home download page nor does it matter whether I use Firefox or Pale Moon to access the page.

So I'm rather stuck and will be grateful for any help you might offer.

Best regards, @ChrisH

[Jasper]

@ChrisH

Try using Wget in terminal

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wget https://rockedge.org/kernels/data/ISO/F96-CE/F96-CE_4.iso

[pp4mnklinux]

@ChrisH

Try using Wget in terminal

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wget https://rockedge.org/kernels/data/ISO/F96-CE/F96-CE_4.iso

Using uGet, 8 secs download time with no problem.

[ChrisH]

@Jasper & @pp4mnklinux , thanks for your advice. I'll give that a try. Best regards, @ChrisH

[ChrisH]

So, wget worked and the iso was successfully downloaded as follows

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wget https://rockedge.org/kernels/data/ISO/F96-CE/F96-CE_4.iso

but the file failed with GtkHash using the hash file from https://rockedge.org/kernels/data/ISO/F ... _4-ISO.txt. So maybe I shouldn't trust it? Regards, ChrisH

[Jasper]

Guess, you will have to download again if you want the correct verification to match.

[rockedge]

@ChrisFH

I just downloaded a copy of F96-CE_4.iso from the same location and the ISO tested against the SHA1-MD5_F96-CE_4-ISO.txt values in gtkhash successfully. The value for SHA1 match:

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[ChrisH]

@rockedge , @Jasper , thanks. I've never been really sure of the purpose of the hash key. I have it in mind that it's to verify that the downloaded file has not been maliciously modified, though I don't remember where I first got that idea from. That's the reason why I wondered whether I should trust it. I'll try again. Best regards, @ChrisH

[ChrisH]

@rockedge , OK, it looks like I downloaded an out of date Hash key file. The file I used for my failed attempt came from this address https://rockedge.org/kernels/data/ISO/F ... 64_9.6.txt , which I must have picked up by mistake by copying the hash file link for the devx version instead of the https://rockedge.org/kernels/data/ISO/F ... _4-ISO.txt version . So I'm good to go now that the hash check shows green . Thanks everyone and best regards, @ChrisH

[oafunv]

2 CDs in the bin with this. One with cdrecord speed=4 -multi F96-CE_4.iso, the other with xfburn. I can't say if it's the CDs (maybe) or the burner or the iso. Any info?

[bigpup]

@oafunv

What exactly happens when you try to boot using one of these CD's?
You do what?
You see what?
Give specific details.

Information on what the computer is will help.
Make and model?

[oafunv]

What exactly happens when you try to boot using one of these CD's? nothing, cdrom makes noises and pc goes to next normal boot ie skips cd cos it failed to read it
You do what? nothing
You see what? black screen
I'm leaning towards CDs being bad because I could burn both CDs a second time.

[rockedge]

@oafunv what should happen if the CD-ROM is burned correctly, is the system will boot and start up and a desktop will appear on the monitor.

Does sound like something went wrong during the first burn attempt. I had to burn a copy recently for a machine that had the hard drive replaced and was not partitioned and formatted yet. This worked for me but I had to go through several tries until I found a CD-ROM/DVD drive that would write (burn) still.

If you can still write data to a previously "burned" CD-ROM then nothing was written to the blank CD/DVD.

Can you in anyway burn F96-CE_4 again and check the disk's integrity after the burn process is finished?

[bigpup]

@oafunv

Can you look at what is on the CD and tell us what is on it?
Should see a bunch of files:

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.
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What operating system are you using, to run a program in, to burn the ISO image to CD?

[snayak]

Hi @rockedge,

Yesterday I downloaded F-96_CE4 from https://rockedge.org/kernels/data/ISO/F96-CE/
Thank you for this direct download link.
This kind of link is easier to use with "wget -c". Thank you.

I am wondering how to write menu.lst entry of Grub4Dos for F-96_CE4.
I tried to mimic my working Fatdog entry:

title F96CE4 (sda2/F96CE4)
find --set-root --ignore-floppies /F96CE4/initrd
kernel /F96CE4/vmlinuz pmedia=atahd psubdir=F96CE4 pfix=fsck savefile=direct:device:sda2:/F96CE4/F96CE4save.ext4 video=SVIDEO-1:d
initrd /F96CE4/initrd

title Fatdog720 (sda2/fatdog720)
find --set-root --ignore-floppies /fatdog720/initrd
kernel /fatdog720/vmlinuz pmedia=atahd psubdir=fatdog720 pfix=fsck savefile=direct:device:sda2:/fatdog720/fd64save.ext4 video=SVIDEO-1:d
initrd /fatdog720/initrd

But it is now working.
Kindly suggest if I am doing something wrong.

[snayak]

I was able to solve it.

I did a silly mistake.
Instead of initrd.gz, I put initrd only.

Thank you so much.

[AmStaff]

Just tried FossaPup64 CE. I'm happy I've found a Puppy that will boot for me, since most won't, and the latest Bookworm64 doesn't either. Since I have limited time to work on these problems, I was elated to find a Puppy that just works ootb.
Thanks.

[bean]

Hi could someone please explain what the differences are here

1. F96-CE_4.iso 538Mb

2. F96-CE_5-alpha4.iso 568Mb

3. F96-CE_5-alpha4.iso 662Mb

I realise

1. is F96 vers 4 and

2. is the alpha vers for F96-CE_5

3. i think is same as 2. with Rockledge's temp updates and some added stuff that he abandoned, i cant remember or find the links etc blah

I use 2. F96-CE_5-alpha4.iso 568Mb as my daily driver it works superbly and fast for me. The networking is rock solid, For some reason EasyOS has networking issues creates 2 partitions but only one boot 6Mb is visible from windows. No disrespect to Barry here.

[bean]

Just seen this https://archive.org/download/puppy_linux_-fossapup64

where is all this from and is it safe?

[mikeslr]

Just seen this https://archive.org/download/puppy_linux_-fossapup64

where is all this from and is it safe?

Ally is the maintainer of archive.org. Along with other publications that have appeared on the internet, ally has been archiving Puppys and their applications perhaps since their inception. I've used the term publications because you may find on archive.org documents, videos, pretty much anything which can be published. It is as valuable a resource for things as Wikipedia is for information.
Naturally, it has come under attack by assholes. cf. viewtopic.php?p=138940#p138940

[rockedge]

@bean

F96-CE_4 is the stable polished version. download is possible from here -> https://mega.nz/folder/j0JQ2RaZ#Uiw3eA8MBOhOxHnwxqRKNg

F96-CE_5 is the one I produced alpha versions of that reached F96-CE_5-alpha4 in an attempt to bring F96-CE as close to up to date that Ubuntu Focal Fossa can go. I have not worked on it much as of late since I started to use Noblepup64 more and more.

The F96-CE_5-alpha4 is solid enough to use regularly only it is not as outfitted with utilities as is F96-CE_4 and a bit less polished. Very fast reponsive OS on most machines.

There is a good ISO to download here -> https://mega.nz/folder/nwBlwYLQ#-pqgBV7Pu9sTQwae_rOe_A

Many of the ISO's located here -> https://archive.org/download/puppy_linux_-fossapup64 are the systems produced during the build process leading up to F96-CE_4. Which all are "Safe".

[bean]

Thanks everyone, and Happy New Year, thats really helpfull, I will still continue using F96-CE_5-alpha4.iso 568Mb as it is so fast and stable, knowing it is safe a big relief, a younger relative has just had £4000 skimmed from her account last Monday.

I shall try the other versions rockedge mentioned and appologies for calling him rockledge,

Kenneth

[greengeek]

F96-CE_4 is the stable polished version. download is possible from here -> https://mega.nz/folder/j0JQ2RaZ#Uiw3eA8MBOhOxHnwxqRKNg

F96-CE_5 is the one I produced alpha versions of that reached F96-CE_5-alpha4 in an attempt to bring F96-CE as close to up to date that Ubuntu Focal Fossa can go. I have not worked on it much as of late since I started to use Noblepup64 more and more.

The F96-CE_5-alpha4 is solid enough to use regularly only it is not as outfitted with utilities as is F96-CE_4 and a bit less polished. Very fast reponsive OS on most machines.

Thanks for the clarification.
I was just testing a pdf creation utility on F96-CE_5-alpha4 and found there was no pdf viewer (maybe I had a bad download or something tho...)
So I compared it with your original full F96CE_4 which had qpdfview and worked great. (Still think that is the best F96 I have seen)

Do you recommend NoblePup64 as your next ugrgade beyond F96? (ie is F96-CE_5-alpha4 likely to remain unpolished?)

[rockedge]

.......apologies for calling him rockledge,

Every ledge has an edge!

I think there is a town in Florida USA that is named Rockledge

[rockedge]

Do you recommend NoblePup64 as your next ugrgade beyond F96?

So far I do like NoblePup64. It could use a bit more polish and perhaps a few more of the tools and utilities need to be polished in.
I use F96-CE_4 on several machines as the main OS and is a real workhorse. I really like it's performance.

ie is F96-CE_5-alpha4 likely to remain unpolished?

I am thinking of going back and seeing if another update and perhaps one in a bigger leap than before, but mostly to add in the PDF viewer (which I miss as well) and do some of the polishing further. This week I put some time in looking it over to see where to begin.

[rockedge]

Will try out LibraOffice and encryption that is not working correctly when I experiment around with F96-CE_5

[peebee]

Do you recommend NoblePup64 as your next ugrgade beyond F96?

So far I do like NoblePup64. It could use a bit more polish and perhaps a few more of the tools and utilities need to be polished in.
I use F96-CE_4 on several machines as the main OS and is a real workhorse. I really like it's performance.

ie is F96-CE_5-alpha4 likely to remain unpolished?

I am thinking of going back and seeing if another update and perhaps one in a bigger leap than before, but mostly to add in the PDF viewer (which I miss as well) and do some of the polishing further. This week I put some time in looking it over to see where to begin.

NoblePup64 is seeking somebody to "adopt" it and apply the polish........... and host it properly away from GitHub.....

F96-CE_4 is the only Ubuntu based offering at: https://puppylinux-woof-ce.github.io/in ... l#download

[rockedge]

@peebee

You know something? You are right. I think it is time to focus on NoblePup64. I am using it straight from the woof-CE generated pile and enjoying it's overall performance. Maybe a kernel that can have cpupower work or some form of CPU speed controls included. NoblePup64 seems like to me that there is good potential already assembled and some polish and the addition of some tools and utilities would bring NP64 to the forefront.

It has a solid performing APT package management plus PET packages can be installed easily.
I have run several variations of web server installations on it, sometimes different variations on the same setup. These perform very well as expected. Makes it easier to mess with the forum because I can run a complete one to one copy of it on the NoblePup64 web server. XAMPP works flawlessly and is another way of setting up a development environment on a local machine very quickly and works with most features that the commercial hosts provide as a LAMP stack.

I am now thinking @peebee is right about NoblePup just sitting there....waiting for that "person" to come to the Kennel and be adopted to a warm loving home. Feel like NoblePup64 can be all that F96-CE_4 is.....and can take it even further with better connection to Ubuntu upstream package management.

So officially.......we will retire the F96-CE_5 project! Long live NP64-CE !!

F96-CE was designed to be a bridge between Puppy's past and future. I believe F96-CE_4 has fulfilled it's role well and will operate until NoblePup64 becomes NoblePup-CE (names not binding!). I am suggesting finding a way to work on NP64 (NP32 as well....) without needing extensive knowledge of woof-CE's inner workings. Though it will be really exciting if we could develop a method to take the woof-CE generated NP64 and bolt on the polish

Look to the NoblePup section of the forum for much more to come.

Now back to this topic's main theme.......F96-CE_4.....!!

[vtpup]

Well, heh, I just have F96-CE_4 working well as my daily driver smoothly this last year, so reluctant to move onto something new -- I generally stick with an OS until I have to move on for some reason. But - not my reason for writing in here. ... I just tried installing Java .sfs using PPM in F96-CE_4 and it doesn't seem to open properly (and therefore work with ,jars).

When it is downloaded with PPM, you get a notification asking if you want to run it. I click "Run", and then ... nothing. Normally you should get a configuration screen at that point. (tested in regular Fossapup where it works properly) I believe this is where the issue is.

steve