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Here is another FF "bug".

If FF is running, and you try and run it again, get this:

Chromium, on the otherhand, will start a new tab in the currently-running Chromium.

Hi Barry,
thank you for all the recent important developments.
We use mainly Ungoogled Chromium. It can be installed (and updated) as AppImage, precompiled deb package or even just as extracted tarball (portable version).
It would be a nice (but not fundamental) addition to have it pre-installed.

Cheers.

Brave or Vivaldi in that order.

BarryK wrote: ↑Sun Nov 12, 2023 2:56 am

Here is another FF "bug".

If FF is running, and you try and run it again, get this:

ff-running-err.png

Chromium, on the otherhand, will start a new tab in the currently-running Chromium.

I wonder if this is something to do with how Firefox interacts with EasyOS? I usually use FP96 or Vanilla Dpup 10, on both of which Firefox starts a session in a new window. The only time I ever see that message is if a session has crashed or failed to exit properly, in which case I have to kill the process before relaunching.

I usually run it as a portable, though. Can you do that with EasyOS too?

PS: My preference is definitely Firefox as it has additional security measures. However, I have to resort to Iron (Chrome-based) to launch some pages as they don't work on Firefox.

Google is a modern day Giant having no regard for privacy of people.

It might be a nice to have multiple browsers installed such as Firefox, seamonkey etc and then let the Uses choose the default for their computer.

Also, if there is a CONTROL PANEL, it might make life easier for Windows migrants.

Regards

BarryK wrote: ↑Sun Nov 12, 2023 2:56 am

Here is another FF "bug".

If FF is running, and you try and run it again, get this:

ff-running-err.png

Chromium, on the otherhand, will start a new tab in the currently-running Chromium.

That got fixed, see blog post:

https://bkhome.org/news/202312/fix-fire ... start.html

BarryK wrote: ↑Sun Nov 12, 2023 12:39 am

Flash wrote: ↑Sat Nov 11, 2023 10:49 pm

I prefer FF for Gmail but it started flickering and skipping so badly while composing emails and scrolling down through Google News that I switched to Chromium. I tried a few things, I don't remember them all but among them I think I reinstalled FF. It still skipped. But then it suddenly quit skipping. Now it flickers just a bit every now and then, but keeps its place on the page when it does that. I didn't change anything that I can think of, after reinstalling FF.

Yeah, that does seem like the hardware acceleration problem. Turn it off in the Settings and hopefully the flickering will go away.

Unfortunately, on my Lenovo desktop PC, which has Intel hardware, i3-8100 CPU and "CoffeeLake-S GT2 [UHD Graphics 630]" GPU, which is not bleeding-edge technology, FF flickers. Can't get rid of it, see blog post:

https://bkhome.org/news/202312/firefox- ... nting.html

There are lots of reports about FF flickering, and fixes that work for some, not others. The official advice is to disable hardware acceleration, which doesn't work for me. I have noticed many people reporting the flickering trouble started with FF v90.0.

Flickers also on my Fujitsu laptop and Hp desktop.

BarryK wrote: ↑Wed Dec 20, 2023 12:09 am

Unfortunately, on my Lenovo desktop PC, which has Intel hardware, i3-8100 CPU and "CoffeeLake-S GT2 [UHD Graphics 630]" GPU, which is not bleeding-edge technology, FF flickers. Can't get rid of it, see blog post:

https://bkhome.org/news/202312/firefox- ... nting.html

There are lots of reports about FF flickering, and fixes that work for some, not others. The official advice is to disable hardware acceleration, which doesn't work for me. I have noticed many people reporting the flickering trouble started with FF v90.0.

@BarryK
Are you sure that the hardware acceleration is totally disabled ? (see https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1585091 where the advice is to set gfx.webrender.all.qualified=false or gfx.webrender.force-disabled=true in about:config.)
Another advice is to set the environment variable MOZ_WEBRENDER=0

There is change with webrender in Firefox 90 (https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/9 ... easenotes/)

On about:support, there are graphic acceleration status informations (they are not very clear for me)

PS : I have not flickering trouble with Firefox

Still feel that Chrome/Chromium should standardize for next year: stable and works across the board. This does NOT rule out FF or others as in addition or as an option.

This arrangement would provide stable approaches within the distro no matter which a user would use, OOTB.

Just a thought to reduce/remove the constant efforts of changing browsers.

I still prefer firefox and I don't get the problems others are seeing unless I do something wrong or run out of resources and cause a xerrs.log problem, sorry.

Firefox of course.

@BarryK :-

Just a thought, Barry. gyrog mentions it here:-

viewtopic.php?p=106652#p106652

.......and that's the practice of a default browser being packaged as an adrv. This makes it easy to remove/de-activate if the user so wishes, leaving the way clear for them to install/use/run any other browser they want, in whatever way they want.

I, too, think this would perhaps be a worthwhile approach; there will never be full consensus regarding which browser should come with a distro, OOTB - diff'rent strokes for diff'rent folks, of course!.......so why not make the process of changing it as painless as possible?

Mike.

Ungoogle chromium instead of vanilla chromium would be very welcome.
Nobody loses any feature.
Everybody gains some privacy.
Thanks!

I don't think it matters much which one you use if you have a powerful machine but Chrome definitely runs faster and is much lighter on resources for my old machines.

Having a Grandkid who participated in Google's summer of code contributing code leading to both Open-source (chromium) and Chrome, he had alerted me to pay attention to the 2024 release of Chrome.

He was right to suggest. Has anyone else seen the latest v120?

Wow. Useful and wonderful ...