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What I like about the hosting on archive.org is that one can actually view the contents of an iso and download anything from it.

Have dl'd that file of yours,Thanks.

nice little review on an eeepc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJcWcQ8 ... gComputers

32bit or 64bit..That's the question.
Running this OS on a refurbished HP Elitebook 745 G3 which I bought a week ago.
-AMD A10-87008
-8 GB DDR3
-180 GB SSD
-AMD Radeon R5 1 GB
-No OS
I did try and ran Bionicpup64 from usb, however, the thing froze for some reason.
Pup slack is no option for me given the lack of support for my hp printer.
Since Bionicpup64 is based on BionicBeaver I thought:"What the heck."
Installing was a breeze. Downloaded firefox and gnome-mahjongg and my world was complete.
Top speed!
Unless you are doing heavy things like making and editing videos, too name but one, there is no real big noticeable difference
in speed between 32 and 64bit. In my humble opinion, that is. Feel free to comment.
So, there you go, give BionicBeaver32 a try on a newer machine and you'll be surprised!

I have created 4 half-Chinese language pets and 2 Chinese language pets for BionicPup32 8.0.25:

name of iso file: bionicpup32-8.0+25-uefi.iso
names of half-Chinese language pets:
fcitx Chinese input platform: fcitx_4.2.9-en-zh-bionic-20.0.1.pet (17 mb)
ibus Chinese input platform: ibus_1.5.7-en-zh-bionic-20.0.1.pet (29 mb)
scim Chinese input platform: scim_1.4.14-en-zh-bionic-20.0.1.pet (16 mb)
yong Chinese input platform: yong3264_20201122-en-zh-bionic-20.0.1.pet (8 mb)

names of Chinese language pets:
Simplified Chinese: bionicpup32-8.0.25-zhcn-20.0.1.pet (4 mb)
Traditional Chinese: bionicpup32-8.0.25-zhhk-20.0.1.pet (4 mb)

To use:
(a) any 1 of the 4 half-Chinese language pets will enable you to display and input Chinese in BionicPup32 8.0.25

(b) the Chinese language pets will give you Simplified Chinese (use zhcn pet) or Traditional Chinese (use zhhk pet) menus, icon labels, tooltips for BionicPup32 8.0.25. For the Chinese pets to work normally, you must install a suitable half-Chinese pet prior to install the Chinese pet.

For more information and download links of these pets, please see the links below:
English forum: viewtopic.php?f=138&t=297
Chinese forum: https://www.minilinux.net/node/2545

Now BionicPup32-8.0+26
see post #1

Are there any significant changes made/added to the original iso, I see these deltas are quite large in size (any change log)? I'm still using the original iso so would like to know if I should upgrade.

amethyst wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 11:37 am

Are there any significant changes made/added to the original iso, I see these deltas are quite large in size (any change log)? I'm still using the original iso so would like to know if I should upgrade.

I can't point you to a change log as Ubuntu doesn't seem to provide one (that I have found) (unlike Slackware which does...)
There have been MANY Ubuntu updates since the original build in 2019....
I have attached the Woof-CE record of the packages that have been rebuilt due to new versions becoming available.... if an item has a single entry it hasn't been updated since the original build.

remove false.gz

I would point to the glib, glibc and openssl updates as being important reasons to update.

Just updated bionicpup32 with the +26 delta and manually updated my frugal install keeping existing save folder. After booting I ran a dmesg check and the terminal window's buffer was filled with the following line:

aufs au_lkup_dentry:232:jwm[7185]: I/O Error, both of real entry and whiteout found, apps, err -5

I can't remember when I last checked dmesg, so not sure how long this has been occurring. I changed the kernel to newer 5.10.4-lxpup64, but still get the messages. All is working OK, just all these messages. Did some looking for .wh files but couldn't find any in this install.

Any assistance greatly appreciated.

hi peebee

i would like to use your upupbb32
as the base for the community puppy
since it is flawless

is the woof-ce stuff still available for the older builds
since i use one of the older builds

william

Build information is available in the .iso in /var/packages:

*_REPOS
DISTRO_PKGS_SPECS
woof-build.conf

hi peebee

thanks very much for your reply
and the info

and for upupbb32

william

This is curl version 7.76.0 PET compiled in BionicPup32 from sources at https://github.com/curl/curl
This PET updates the BionicPup curl package to version 7.76.0

Version 7.76.0 addresses the following security concerns
https://curl.se/docs/vulnerabilities.html

To see which curl version you have, open a terminal and run

curl --version

Forum member 8Geee reported security issues of older curl in this forum thread
viewtopic.php?f=54&t=2549

*******This PET package is compiled in, built for and tested in BionicPup32 only.*******
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

curl-7.76.0-DEV_i686-pc-linux-gnu_upupbb-19.03.pet
md5 36daed504fda12e0ff9420c47dbc7e52

Now
af3e0badd522add6d50058bffb94ad4b bionicpup32-8.0+28-uefi.iso
see post #1

Is there info someplace that says what the update delta is providing?
Exactly what is in the delta?

bigpup wrote: ↑Thu Jul 08, 2021 11:01 am

Is there info someplace that says what the update delta is providing?
Exactly what is in the delta?

The delta converts +0 to +n - the delta is cumulative

Very short summary of what has been added by each delta at:
https://sourceforge.net/projects/zestyp ... t/download

There are no mentions of Woof-CE updates because BionicPup32-8.0 continues to use:
BUILD_FROM_WOOF='testing;c1a16e15;2019-03-22 12:34:12 +0800'

"Ubuntu updates" just means a new version of an Ubuntu component has appeared and the build now uses this - Woof-CE does produce a list of what has changed but I don't publish this as its not very meaningful.....

For +28 it was:
:exiv2:
:libarchive:
:libdjvulibre:
:exiv2:
:exiv2:
:gstreamer1:
:libhogweed:
:liblz4:
:nettle:
:pam:
:pam:
:pam:
:subversion:
:libsystemd:
:libsystemd:
:udev:
:udev:
:sdl:
:xorg_base_new:
:xorg_base_new:
:xorg_base_new:
:xorg_base_new:
:xorg_base_new:
:libxml2:
:libxml2-utils:
:libxml2:
:linux-header:
:nettle:
:python-libxml2:
:udev:

Here is the full list of changes since +0:

Thanks!
Just what I wanted to know.

In trying to help people with problems using Bionicpup32.
This info will give me good knowledge, on what is in it, for the version of Bionicpup32, they may be using.

Bionic32 (version from March 13 or earlier) installed to a 2005 DELL Inspiron 1300 (PP-21L) is the ONLY puppy linux that works properly with both video and wireless and also saves changes. The 1300 has a by-this-date-rare matte screen and nice keyboard and touchpad that does not interpret a finger 1" away as a tap, unlike older HP laptops. I upgraded from 500MB to 1GB RAM, PC2-4200.

Bionic32 works , January 13 version, with -- forcepae at end of the 'kernel' line in menu.lst, on the non-pae 2004 DELL 600M. 1.5GB RAM.
(I will figure out the delta stuff eventually).

I needed Bionic32 (Ubuntu 18) in order to run Palemoon 29.X. (Or an AMD machine to run Xenial puppy 32bit, Ubuntu 16 based, with latest Palemoon).

When running Bionic32 on the 1300, it was very slow booting and loading Palemoon 29.1. Since 29.1 will no longer let me post listings at ebay or even save drafts, I upgraded to 29.2-1.1 (Stephen Pusser's 32-bit for i386). I also put in 2GB RAM. The laptop in theory only goes to 1GB but other people have used 2GB. I replaced PC2-4200 with PC2-5300, which may not have existed in 2005.

FSB 400 CPU, but in theory faster memory should be okay (533MHz, PC2-5300).

This latest version of Palemoon works perfectly on the 600M but on the 1300 it segfaults when I try to log into ebay and then also when I load it.

I do not recall having problems with Palemoon before the memory upgrade. Has anyone else had such segfaults with it in Bionic32?

Could the problem be in addressing the extra memory or in the speed of the memory?

I could try a 64-bit puppy but 32-bit is supposedly faster on older computers.

http://linux.palemoon.org/download/mainline/

Pale Moon for Linux
Be sure to check out the latest Release notes.

System requirements
Pale Moon is specifically optimized for current-day processors and as such requires a reasonably modern system to run properly.

A modern Linux distribution. The browser may not work well on old or LTS releases of Linux.
A modern processor (must have SSE2 support as the absolute minimum).
1GB of RAM (2GB or more recommended for heavy use).
GTK 2.24 or GTK 3.22+ (Not GTK 4)
GLib 2.22 or higher
Pango 1.14 or higher
libstdc++ 4.6.1 or higher

Thanks for the reply. Palemoon 29.2.1 works on my 2004 laptop -- forcepae. It works again on the 2005 DELL (B130, 1300, etc.)
The problem appears to be the memory because putting back 1GB PC2-4200 fixed it. 307MB available while running PM 29.2.1.

I replaced PC2-4200 with PC2-5300, which may not have existed in 2005.

FSB 400 CPU, but in theory faster memory should be okay (533MHz, PC2-5300).

Memory for computers is not that simple to do.
The specific computer motherboard will be made to support a specific type and speed range of memory.
You will need to find out what that is.
Just because the computer originally was made having PC2 (DDR2) memory, does not make it able to handle, all possible versions, of PC2 memory.

DDR2 PC2-5300 (commonly referred to as DDR2-667) memory is DDR2 designed for use in systems with a 333MHz front-side bus (providing a 667MT/s data transfer rate).
DDR2 PC2-4200 (commonly referred to as DDR2-533) memory is DDR2 designed for use in systems with a 266MHz front-side bus (providing a 533MT/s data transfer rate).

My latest computer build is using a very new motherboard.
It can use DDR4 2400 RAM.
But that is as high a speed it will support.
It will allow using a higher speed DDR4, but it will still only run at 2400 speed.

What the motherboard will support is the controlling factor.

If you are talking about memory for a Dell computer.
Those things basically need hardware, specifically provided by Dell.

Good evening. Is there a program in Bionicpup32 that will allow you to read epub books from the library. When I search epub in Puppy Package Manager I see lots of converters, guides, validation tools and it looks like tools to make epub files but I couldn't see any programs to open and read books in the epub format. I noticed that someone on Philb's Facca site made a program for epub's but that's for a 64 bit operating system. If anyone is using something in Bionicpup32 to read books in the epub format I would appreciate any help.

Thanks
Bird Dog

See if Fbreader is what you are looking for as a E book reader.

In Puppy Package Manager(PPM)
Search for fbreader.
It may list more than one.
Choose the one that says at bottom it is going to install 17 or more items.
It needs added dependencies plus Fbreader.
Install all of this stuff along with Fbreader.
It will make menu entry under menu->Documents

This is PPM listing of what got installed:
.

Hi bigpup thanks for your response. I'll give this a try and let you know how it works. Hope you are staying safe and covid free.

Thanks
Bird Dog

Hello,
Problems with Bionic 32. I do not find a browser working well.
- the ligth web browser, for instance, does not allow me to watch youtube videos
- I tried chromium and firefox in the menu -Internet - Get Web browser : Chromium appears to be installed but does not work. I do not know if Firefox works : waiting and waiting, and waiting severals minutes : too much slow.
- I tried do install chromium 85.0.4183.102+pepper_32.0.0.433_lx_spot.sfs which works very well in xenial 32. But it does not work at all. In the console, if I write "chromium" I have this :
# chromium
/usr/lib/chromium/chromium: /lib/libm.so.6: version GLIBC_2.29' nott found (required by /usr/lib/chromium/libgtk-3.so.0)
chown: /root/spot/Downloads/*: No such file or directory
# EXIT="Exit on timeout

Any idea ? Or another browser ?
Thank you

@gilles

télécharger, décompresser et exécuter : https://www.seamonkey-project.org
Ça fonctionne dans mon cas sous Bionicpup 32

gilles wrote: ↑Sat Jul 24, 2021 4:16 pm

- I tried chromium and firefox in the menu -Internet - Get Web browser : Chromium appears to be installed but does not work.

Hello,

the "Get web browser" app doesn't work for me too. But Chromium is available on Sourgeforce website (works well for me in Bionicpup32):

https://sourceforge.net/projects/lxpup/ ... /browsers/

What you want to download is "ChromiumUBB" (the "UBB" means it is for upupbb, which is another name for Bionicpup32).

To "install" it you can put the ChromiumUBB into your install folder and use "sfs load" program. Or you can boot the ChromiumUBB as "adrv...sfs" (just to rename it properly) instead of the default one (which is light browser).

Bonjour BologneChe

Télécharger, décompresser, ça, je sais faire, et donc, je l'ai fait. Mais exécuter, en linux, alors là, je ne vois pas.

to Feek : Thank you. But I have already the ligth browser. It does not work properly : it does not allow to watch youtube video

gilles wrote: ↑Sat Jul 24, 2021 10:51 pm

Bonjour BologneChe

Télécharger, décompresser, ça, je sais faire, et donc, je l'ai fait. Mais exécuter, en linux, alors là, je ne vois pas.

to Feek : Thank you. But I have already the ligth browser. It does not work properly : it does not allow to watch youtube video

Un fois décompressé, vous allez voir un dossier Seamonkey. Ouvrir le dossier et trouver un exécutable (une roue dentelée avec seamonkey comme indication). Cliquez sur celle-ci.

Details of computer? Age? CPU? Memory? Type of install?

The browsers in this folder are provided as SFS add-ons for UPup 32bit builds

The versions of the browsers as of 23-Jul-2021 with their md5sums are:

ChromiumUBB_92.0.4515.107 RUNS-AS-SPOT for BionicPup32 :f728c97b01db4c12967d8f58ae1a1ff9

firefox-90.0.2 :b9c09dab90fd3f0620c170224ae3ffc2

palemoon-29.3.0 :82ad7a2889586b7cdc1ee880f02c92cd

seamonkey-2.53.8.1 :dd6a11887488c1f5befd8d8a82d669c8

+ Vivaldi, Iron, SlimJet etc.