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Hi AstonX,

DistroBuilder? Is that an application specific to Saluki? or did your download it from somewhere? If it was built into Saluki it probably won't work even from a Frugal Install: Saluki originally had its own repository and it's package manager was configured to use it. As was an application whose name I've forgotten. But this is what that application did: Saluki was the first Puppy to employ an 'adrv.sfs'. It came with one; but you could create your own. Instead of installing applications into a SaveFile, that 'builder' application would download all the applications you chose from the Saluki repository and repackage all of them into an adrv.sfs which Saluki would --like other parts of Puppies system-- copy into RAM on bootup.

That repository no longer exists. While it might be possible to add the current location of specific Saluki applications by re-configuring Saluki's Puppy Package Manager, that's not an easy task. Don't expect anyone else to volunteer to spend a great deal of time and effort.

Saluki was revolutionary; and it and its direct descendant, Carolina, were my favorites for a couple of years. But Saluki was published 10 years ago. That's about 200 "computer years". Both the computers operating systems run on and the applications (especially web and security) operating systems need have changed significantly.

Much of what jemimah pioneered with Saluki is now a Puppy standard. Adding to what bigpup has said about Frugal vs. Full perhaps this will help your understanding. You can mount the Saluki ISO by Left-Clicking it. In the window which opens you'll see files including adrv_lina_xx.sfs --the adrv I mentioned-- puppy_lina_xx.sfs and zdrv_lina_xx.sfs. The "sfs" endings stand for "squashed (compressed) file systems". A frugal 'install' works with squashed file-systems. It reads the content of a still 'squashed' file system and copy that content into Random Access Memory. A Frugal Puppy can do that with many SFSes, merging their content in RAM and thereafter running entirely in RAM; only writing to Storage occasionally and/OR only on user demand. If you Left-Click the adrv_lina_xx.sfs you'll mount/open it. In the window which opens you'll be able to view or file-browse to many folders and files. [Left-Click to Unmount/Close].
If you do a 'Full Install' what happens is that the installation program mounts both the ISO and the SFSes and copies the folders and files onto your Storage medium (Hard-drive). That system does not have Squashed files, nor any means to copy the contents of squash files into RAM.

All modern Puppies can make use of an adrv.sfs (and also a ydrv.sfs) to add entire suites of applications to your base system. And although the applications used differ from jemimah's 'builder', all modern Puppies are able to make such adrv.sfses or ydrv.sfses. These are two of the easiest: the Save2sfs module of the nicOS Utility Suite, viewtopic.php?p=12983#p12983 or PaDS, viewtopic.php?f=106&t=933
May I suggest a modern alternative which, like Saluki, uses the xfce window manager: DpupBuster xfce 32-bit. You'll find a link to it here, viewtopic.php?p=2208#p2208.

What i made first is
copy iso of Saluki to USB
run it and try ifnd this DistroBuilder...there is not listed in mnu
ok then i run pack.manager and sownload that file from repo ..i dont know from where ...
then DistroBuilder is presented in menu ,ok ?
then i run that app...
i get error that Saluki must be installed first ..ok
i install Saluki to hard drive with full install...again i receive message
but this time that must be a "frugal" install...
I dont do that yet but i will.

About some things you talking to me i dont have a clue ???
I download Saluki from sourceForge i thin it is 0.23rc version ....something like that

about your suggestion ..well not new pupplets not work well on old hardware because i need to
install saluki on one old machine with 768MB RAM
But of course i can try i see that there is a 32bit version ...fine
ok i will see

"about your suggestion ..well not new pupplets not work well on old hardware because i need to
install saluki on one old machine with 768MB RAM".

That might be the case with some 'new puppys'; but not those built from debian binaries: For example, viewtopic.php?p=4070#p4070

"Busterpup to the Asus 701SD on initial bootup pup-sysinfo reported:

Memory Allocation:
Total RAM: 418 MB
Used RAM: 334 MB
Free RAM: 84 MB
Buffers: 45 MB
Cached: 201 MB
Total Swap: 377 MB
Free Swap: 377 MB

Actual Used RAM: 88 MB Used - (buffers + cached)
Actual Free RAM: 330 MB Free + (buffers + cached)

After creating a 256 Mb SaveFile, pup-sysinfo reported
Actual Used RAM: 93 MB Used - (buffers + cached)
Actual Free RAM: 325 MB Free + (buffers + cached)

After starting the 48 Mb Koffice Workspace’s blank Text Template pup-sysinfo reported
Actual Used RAM: 111 MB Used - (buffers + cached)
Actual Free RAM: 307 MB Free + (buffers + cached)

Closing that an opening gimp-portable, pup-sysinfo reported
Actual Used RAM: 130 MB Used - (buffers + cached)
Actual Free RAM: 288 MB Free + (buffers + cached)

Closing that and starting palemoon, pup-sysinfo reported
Actual Used RAM: 177 MB Used - (buffers + cached)
Actual Free RAM: 241 MB Free + (buffers + cached)

Closing that and starting Mike Walsh’s Seamonkey 2.46 portable, viewtopic.php?p=2206#p2206,
pup-sysinfo reported
Actual Used RAM: 151 MB Used - (buffers + cached)
Actual Free RAM: 267 MB Free + (buffers + cached)

Entering “Cats Images” into a google-search in seamonkey pup-sysinfo reported
Actual Used RAM: 408 MB Used - (buffers + cached)
Actual Free RAM: 10 MB Free + (buffers + cached)."

See also, http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 98#1020898 James Bond's report of running dup-stretch on a computer with only 256 RAM by adding a 256MB for swap. Only 61M is being used at bootup, and this despite that he was running dpup-stretch in a virtual machine.

ok
i read whole topic
and some of things are clear to me very well
old pupies are better for old machines with low ram

Thanks for sharing, it is very helpful to me

mikeslr wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 2:41 pm

The "sfs" endings stand for "squashed (compressed) file systems". A frugal 'install' works with squashed file-systems. It reads the content of a still 'squashed' file system and copy that content into Random Access Memory. A Frugal Puppy can do that with many SFSes, merging their content in RAM and thereafter running entirely in RAM

@mikeslr

Please, could you clear it out do we have system's .sfses loaded into RAM in every case system starts in Frugal or just in case of Pmedia=usbflash (or PUPMODE=77 ?). As I understand in Pmedia=satahd (or PUPMODE=6 ?) we do not load sfses into the RAM, just mount them and merge with a safe_folder, right?

and else..

all the links you referred lead to puppylinux.rockedge.org for me that are redirected just to the top homepage of the forum not to the post itself. Sure anyone can copy the post address 'viewtopic.php?p=12983#p12983' from the link and put it at the end of http://forum.puppylinux.com/ but... I do not know why puppylinux.rockedge.org doesn't work for me... sorry.

Back in 2015, I took Slacko5.7 out for a ride after Slacko5.5XL. Haven't looked back yet. I supported 5.7 until 2018, and forked it for the Atom-powered netbooks, resulting in AtomicPup 2020 today. With thanks to ally and archive dot org, search for 8Geee... quite a history. IT JUST WORKS. Thats the glory days, and they're still here for a few.

Regards
8Geee

Hello

I've been looking to have clear out and free up some drive space and found some older Puppy ISOs. If anyone is interested in any of them reply or message with somewhere to upload to and I'll share.

I have got:

raring-3.9.9.2-SCSI
wary-5.5
lupu-528.005
retroprecise-5.4.3
precise-5.7.1-retro
precise-5.7.1

I'll leave these on my HD for a week or so in case theres any interest

Bye
Will

The easiest and quick upload is if you have a google site
I am interested ...but where you can upload it ?
thanks

You will find (almost) all Puppys and lots of puplets (user remasters) on the archive.org site.Thanks to the uploads of user "ally" over the years. A good place to start: https://archive.org/details/puppylinux

Hello AstonX

Which of the Puppies I have were you interested i. I've just remembered I set up a Dropbox account one time and it seems to be still active so I could use that. I'ts good for 2GB so I could put a couple of Pup ISO on ther and PM you the link.

Reply or PM with what you were wanting and I'll see what I can do.
Bye
Will

I have over 6100 builds archived, all but a handful are mirrored on the archive

list attached

I "just had to look at that list". VERY IMPRESSIVE; THANKS.

you're welcome

wait
i must look into list

This is where my love for Crunchbang derived and started all them years ago

https://archive.org/details/Puppy_Linux_rexbang

Just reinstalled the 2.4 iso and now I'm back into nostalgia heaven

Wow, 6100+ ???
Only Jesus has more saves.

Reply or PM with what you were wanting and I'll see what I can do.
Bye
Will

sorry Will on a long time reply ...
What i am looking for is little bit specific
and nobody from FreeBasic linux users is not interested because they like
big bloated distros to use ....they think that are better but i know ..they not .
Almost every puppy derivate i tried have sirious problem with setting resolution on my AMD graphic card
second i like to have Wine (new-er ) version preinstalled in puppy.

we have now passed the 6700 mark for builds

I wonder if anyone remembers a certain pup with a windows xp look and compiz / beryl preinstalled. Oh and it also came with opera. Around 2008. I remember my radeon card frying and dying after using it lol

https://archive.org/details/puppylinux?query=xp

a start

more info?

https://www.google.com/search?q=windows ... =673&dpr=1

I just found this folder when looking for something else in my HDD:

(BTW my first puppy linux was 2.10)

@fernan ... Let's remember these old days. 14th. September 2006

[Puppy Linux]

Rate this project Puppy Linux 2.10 is out. From the release notes: "A massive upgrade of most package versions - AbiWord 2.4.5, Gnumeric 1.6.3, SeaMonkey 1.0.4, GTK+ 2.8.17, X.Org 7.0...; most of the packages now compiled using the T2 build system; the 'devx' module is a simple method of converting Puppy into a complete C/C++ compile environment; SquashFS now has LZMA compression, allowing us to put more packages into this release, yet the live CD ISO file is smaller; the Smartlink and Lucent soft-modem drivers and support utilities are now in the 'standard' live CD; Sweep replaces mhWaveEdit sound recorder and editor...." Download the Seamonkey edition of Puppy Linux 2.10 from here: puppy-2.10-seamonkey.iso (66.6MB, MD5).