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Re: SSD Lifespan: How Long Do SSDs Last

Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2023 12:33 pm
by wiak

Cloud storage probably safer ... maybe... but use local encryption if sensitive data to upload. Then again I hate modern cloud dependency.


Re: SSD Lifespan: How Long Do SSDs Last

Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2023 12:51 pm
by ozsouth

For me the win speed thing was essential, as my wife was very unhappy with her win10 startup & picture editor speed. I got the same Crucial MX500 1Tb drive that mikewalsh got, about a month earlier (& told him I liked it, after he'd also bought one). It was not expensive & happy wife . . . .


Re: SSD Lifespan: How Long Do SSDs Last

Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2023 2:18 pm
by wizard

@wiak

Can tell you horror stories about cloud storage, case histories for redundant backups.
wizard's rule #7 "The 'cloud' is great, unless you have no cloud"

wizard


Re: SSD Lifespan: How Long Do SSDs Last

Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2023 3:05 pm
by sonny

Last year, my 7-year-old WD 2TB external drive died suddenly. The drive was connected to a router and shared by family members. I took the drive out, but there were no signs of life. So I ended up paying a local data recovery specialist more than $300.

Lessons learned:

1. Symptoms: A few months before the incident, there were some disconnections, but I just unplugged and replugged the power cable to fix it.

2. External drive cons: They may be cheaper than the bare ones (considering the bonus enclosure etc). But, the 'hidden' drive may have a lower RPM, may be refurbished. Let alone enclosure's connection issues.

So I decided to pay pCloud $300 for a 2TB cloud for life so I wouldn't have to worry about losing data again. Not to mention the trouble of keeping track of the drive's life, its symptoms, and any outside factors (theft, California's fire, flood, earthquake, etc). I use it to mirror my folder AND as an "eternal" external drive.


Re: SSD Lifespan: How Long Do SSDs Last

Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2023 3:46 pm
by 8Geee

One other thing will help with all storage devices in or attatched to a computer... a UPS device. Glitches cause failures... especially traditional HDDs, but SSD's and other memory components are NOT immune. I do believe that part of the reason for long life is a UPS.

Regards
8Geee


Re: SSD Lifespan: How Long Do SSDs Last

Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2023 9:25 pm
by sonny

My modem, router, and USB storage are always on a UPS.
Buying a lifetime cloud is like buying "(digital) life insurance" for my family.
Both commitment and peace of mind cost money.


Re: SSD Lifespan: How Long Do SSDs Last

Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2023 9:41 pm
by wiak
wizard wrote: Thu Mar 30, 2023 2:18 pm

@wiak

Can tell you horror stories about cloud storage, case histories for redundant backups.
wizard's rule #7 "The 'cloud' is great, unless you have no cloud"

wizard

Which cloud service gave you grief wizard? Most losses I've ever had were caused by myself on local machine including electrical faults pulling stuff out when still plugged in... always in a hurry. Dropped my external old backup 1TB drive last week; still going so far. Broken several laptop keyboards taking machines apart - some of these connector ribbons are very delicate on smaller laptops. Usually I am extremely careful, but depends... and once perfect eyesight long gone. Need multiple pairs of glasses on to magnify enough and no coffee helps stop shaky hands soldering. Used to be a whizz at fine soldering - building new electronic boards in design/development used to be my job once. Had technicians to do the assembly but took longer fault-finding their wiring errors so usually did the soldering myself since went for 100% correct first time builds - saved hours overall despite my boss complaining my design time was too valuable to bother with the soldering. But nowadays poor eyesight changes everything. It is annoying to see careless bad work by some electricians and plumbers and so on though. Some are good but some just hopeless despite having the certifications that are legal requirement for such work nowadays. I'm surprised more houses don't burn down - some do...


Re: SSD Lifespan: How Long Do SSDs Last

Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2023 11:01 pm
by pp4mnklinux

The 3 security copies rule.

The best resource... MULTCLOUD.


Re: SSD Lifespan: How Long Do SSDs Last

Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2023 1:26 am
by wizard

@wiak

Which cloud service gave you grief wizard?

No specific one, in each case it was a customers office manager who made a decision to go with a "cloud" backup solution and no redundant local backup. In both cases when disaster struck they were not able to recover their critical business data in a timely manner, one took almost 3 months to regain.

Like you, heavy magnification is my friend and the days of soldering board level components are gone :D

wizard


Re: SSD Lifespan: How Long Do SSDs Last

Posted: Fri Apr 21, 2023 6:49 pm
by Grey

I usually buy Silicon Power products if I need RAM, flash drive and SSD. But this Wednesday I bought a 512 gb SSD by Netac. The most common with 3D nand sata3. I just decided to see how and how long it will work for the second computer :) There will be no secret drawings there, just for emulation and drawing all sorts of nonsense.


Re: SSD Lifespan: How Long Do SSDs Last

Posted: Fri Apr 21, 2023 7:02 pm
by sonny

I ALWAYS buy from sellers who are also the manufacturers


Re: SSD Lifespan: How Long Do SSDs Last

Posted: Fri Apr 21, 2023 7:12 pm
by Grey
sonny wrote: Fri Apr 21, 2023 7:02 pm

I ALWAYS buy from sellers who are also the manufacturers

Manufacturer of what :) ? Memory chips, a control chip, or do you mean assembling everything into a housing? Or is it just to calm yourself down? In any case - no romance and element of surprise ;)


Re: SSD Lifespan: How Long Do SSDs Last

Posted: Sat Apr 22, 2023 1:41 am
by Grey
sonny wrote: Fri Apr 21, 2023 7:02 pm

I ALWAYS buy from sellers who are also the manufacturers

Grey wrote: Fri Apr 21, 2023 7:12 pm

Memory chips, a control chip, or do you mean assembling everything into a housing?

Oh well. Maybe AMD or Samsung still have a full production cycle in some areas. But it's too expensive, overpaying for a name-brand and you support monopolies. Give a chance to novice manufacturers ;)

Yes, Samsung was too expensive and I decided it was better to buy some food and support some "leftist" manufacturer :lol:

Micron and Hynix seem to be still releasing their memory chips. But they are soldered to their products by everyone who is not lazy :)


Re: SSD Lifespan: How Long Do SSDs Last

Posted: Sat Apr 22, 2023 1:42 am
by sonny

Those that manufacture their own flash memory:
- Crucial
- DELL (Kioxia)
- Kingston (Kioxia)
- Micron
- Samsung
- Seagate (Kioxia)
- SK hynix
- Western Digital (Kioxia)