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@BologneChe :-

BologneChe wrote: ↑Sun Oct 17, 2021 11:38 pm

@mikewalsh

Thanks for the recent versions in 32 bit. It is very appreciated and the work is impeccable as always!

You're very welcome, mate. Enjoy.

Mike.

New SSE-only build - v28.17.0, 'glibc-tweaked', in portable format

Now then, gang:-

Here's a very special new build, especially welcome for those of you running very elderly hardware.

With grateful thanks to new member Fenyo, we now have an updated SSE-only build (v28.17.0).....up from the long-standing v27.9.4 that Walter Dnes kindly provided some time ago. This is the very final 28-series release; apparently, Fenyo can't compile any newer than this, because his OS can't handle the newer tool-chain requirements dictated by the 29-series.

viewtopic.php?p=39503#p39503

I've packed this in the new, 'modularized' portable build format I put together for the 'zilla-based browsers. As always; download; unzip; place the portable directory anywhere you like.....but preferably outside the 'save'. Click to enter, then click on the 'LAUNCH' script to fire it up. Additional scripts permit the addition of a Menu entry if required. The 'MenuReadMe' explains how these work, and how to use them.

YouTube - at least, for ME - is working A-OK.

You can find these at the following location:-

https://mega.nz/folder/zO52VZDQ#F3U5wZYxvb9FNy3aHvMs-w

Hope this proves useful for some of you. Posting from it now.... Enjoy! (And very grateful thanks to Fenyo, for making this build available. It's much appreciated.)

Mike.

All of my 3 browsers are your portables mike and i thank you for them.
Seamonkey,
Firefox
palemoon

All run well and serve different purposes.

@xenial :-

xenial wrote: ↑Sun Oct 24, 2021 4:06 pm

All of my 3 browsers are your portables mike and i thank you for them.
Seamonkey,
Firefox
palemoon

All run well and serve different purposes.

Glad ya like 'em.....and glad to hear they're working for you.

We aim to please...

Mike.

New, updated links to both 32-bit & 64-bit portables now in post #1.

Mike.

Afternoon, gang.

Just wanted to add that new member Fenyo has continued to surprise..! We now have not just one, but THREE relatively up-to-date 32-bit, SSE-only builds:-

• v28.17.0

• v29.1.0

• v29.4.1 (the current release)

A link for all three is in post #1. (These are badged as "NewMoon", since that IS what they are.)

Mike.

@mikewalsh

Mike, is there a palemoon 29.4.1 32bit .pet or .deb? I want to do an install for a remaster of Bionic32 8.0

Thanks
wizard

@wizard :-

wizard wrote: ↑Sun Jan 30, 2022 7:54 pm

@mikewalsh

Mike, is there a palemoon 29.4.1 32bit .pet or .deb? I want to do an install for a remaster of Bionic32 8.0

Thanks
wizard

wizard:-

I don't do .pet or .deb packages, as you know. Almost all my output these days is in 'portable' format......I know these aren't as straight-forward for 'standard' installation in the case of folks doing re-masters.

I have got a 32-bit portable build of v29.4.4, which you're welcome to cannabilise and turn it into a standard install (this is the newest one of Steve Pusser's builds). You can find it here:-

https://mega.nz/folder/vWxRmCQa#MRY_sTdVzBJ5-_NMKlTpBg

Just take the 'palemoon32' directory, rename to 'palemoon' & stick it in /opt, then run up a .desktop entry for the Menu to point at it. Something like the following will do the job (call it 'palemoon.desktop'):-

[Desktop Entry]
Encoding=UTF-8
Name=Pale Moon browser
Comment=Browse the world-wide web...
Exec=/opt/palemoon/palemoon
Icon=/usr/share/pixmaps/palemoon.png
Type=Application
Terminal=false
Categories=X-Internet-browser

.....and pair it with the attached icon. Sorry it's a bit more "manual" than you were perhaps looking for, but it's simple & quick enough to do. Hope that helps.

Mike.

@mikewalsh

Manual is fine, just wasn't sure about if there were other files that needed to be added.

Thanks
wizard

@wizard :-

wizard wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 1:22 am

@mikewalsh

Manual is fine, just wasn't sure about if there were other files that needed to be added.

Thanks
wizard

These recent builds DO need a newer version of libstdc++.so.6. Bugger; I've just realised... I've included this in the portable build, but you will need to relocate it, then use a modified form of the 'LAUNCH' script to point at it via an 'LD_PRELOAD' clause. Hmm; let me think....

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Okay; something like this should work...

- Move the 'libstdc++' directory inside the 'palemoon' directory.

- Create a new script inside the 'palemoon' directory like this (and call it 'plmn'):-

#!/bin/sh
#
# Launcher for Pale Moon browser
#
HERE="$(dirname "$(readlink -f "$0")")"
#
export LD_PRELOAD="$HERE/libstdc++/libstdc++.so.6"
#
"$HERE/palemoon" "$@"

- Then modify the .desktop file's 'Exec' line to read

Exec=/opt/palemoon/plmn

That should do what you want, I believe. I found it better to use a self-contained libstdc++.so.6 rather than replace the 'system' one, since you then risk breaking other stuff. The version I've used is from Xenial 7.5, because it just works with these recent builds from Steve Pusser. It'll run fine under Bionic as long as you construct it as I've outlined above.

Any probs, just ask.

Mike.

Aha, will let you know how it goes, the remaster will be for older hardware, here's why:

Ran an interesting experiment last week that surprised me.

Computer
Compaq n610c laptop, 2001-2003 vintage
cpu = Intel P4m 2ghz, single core 32bit
ram = 512mb
video = ATI Radeon 7500 1400x1050

All test run from frugal installs on internal HD using 1gb swap file.

My acid load test for a older computers is to run a Youtube video.
Puppy's tested:
-Precise Lite 572
-Dpup Stretch 7.5rc5
-Bionic32 8.0

Browser = Palemoon 29.4.1 portable.

Of the three Pups, Bionic32 was the only one that could run the video without
stuttering, pausing or stalling and badly freezing the mouse/keyboard. Stretch was second best.

All three pegged the cpu at 100%, but running the free command in terminal showed that
Bionic32 was managing the ram/swap better. It used almost all of the ram and a lot more of the
swap than the other two.

wizard

@wizard :-

Hm. Interesting, indeed. Well, let me know how you get on with it, won't you?

Mike.

@mikewalsh

Finished the remaster of bionic32 8.0 with Palemon 29.4.4, turns out peebee had a .sfs from here https://sourceforge.net/projects/lxpup/ ... /browsers/, which saved me some work. Added a few apps and help files similar to Friendly Fossa64 remaster, also has a newer Firefox running as a portable from /mnt/home.

Not a small package, about 700mb. I'll use it for older hardware and/or if cpu can't use x64. Not sure it needs publishing, but will upload for you if you'd like to try it.

If I should move this post elsewhere, let me know.

Thanks for your help
wizard

@wizard :-

Heh. Are you taking a leaf out of MyCrudSoft's book with that wallpaper, eh?

I wouldn't mind taking a look at it, if you don't mind. I may try it on ye anciente Dell, though even Pale Moon will have the P4 pegged at 100% as it is. Firefox will be way too much for it.

Let me have a link or summat, yeah? Cheers.

Mike.

leaf out of MyCrudSoft's book with that wallpaper

As they say, you need some "curb appeal".

Here's a link, it problably still has some flies on it, but if you find some, let me know.

Thanks
wizard

Updated 2/10/22
https://sourceforge.net/projects/friend ... o/download

@wizard :-

Cheers, wiz. I'll let you know how I get on with it; won't be till tomorrow at the earliest, maybe Thursday. Have to see how my week goes.....

Mike.

Are you taking a leaf out of MyCrudSoft's book with that wallpaper, eh?

Really can't believe you think I'd copy them.

wizard

Re: USE CAUTION BEFORE UPDATING TO Version 30. See this thread, viewtopic.php?t=5451

p.s. I followed by own advice given on the above thread and am now posting using Version 30. So far I am not experiencing any problems. But then, unlike peppyy, I don't store any login credentials within any of my web-browsers. [They are on a buried LibreOffice writer file which I only open when needed. They are not needed for a couple of sites --one being this one-- that I've memorized].

I suggest that you follow the link FeodorF provided to Palemoon's website to find out if and how version 30 may effect your usage.

Version30 did not play well with my computer and the constant high cpu usage was not acceptable and so i uninstalled.
Themes are not accesible at the moment and the GUID has been changed to firefox so that may have something to do with it.

xenial wrote: ↑Fri Mar 18, 2022 9:21 am

Version30 did not play well with my computer and the constant high cpu usage was not acceptable and so i uninstalled.
Themes are not accesible at the moment and the GUID has been changed to firefox so that may have something to do with it.

the same for me. even with hardware acceleration checked, My cpu usage is very higher than previous build

Now then, gang....

Here are the current Pale Moon Puppy-portables. As stated previously, with Tobin's departure from the project v30.0.0 is "on ice" for the foreseeable future, so we're now at v29.4.5. 32- and 64-bit versions are both available.

(Moonchild now has to sort out all the coding issues for v30 by himself, so I guess we're going to be on v29 for a while..... (*shrug*))

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Downloads at the usual link in post #1. CPU usage (and temps!) seem to be back within acceptable limits again. Any issues, you know where to find me.....

Enjoy.

Mike.

@mikewalsh
Hi Mike,
Installed the 32 bit version in DpupStretch and all appears to be working as usual.

Thanks again,

Ken.

If a version of Palemoon 28 does in fact work on Puppy Linux 5.2.8 is there a chance it will work on 5.2.5?

I installed that DEB PET but it had no effect. The versions of Palemoon 28 and 29 used were uninstalled portables (they work with later OS).

Is there a particular version of 28 which needs to be used? Where can I download it from?

'Kay, gang. Update time again.

Another update on the 32-bit 'portable', again making use of Steve Pusser's sterling compiling efforts - v29.4.5.1. This, according to Moonchild, is to fix a serious 'regression', so.....recommended to upgrade.

You can find it at the usual link in post #1. D/l - unzip - move it anywhere you like, outside the 'save'. Click to enter, then click 'LAUNCH' to run it as a 'portable', or use the MenuAdd/Remove scripts to add (or remove) a Menu entry if one is required.

Enjoy.

Mike.

Afternoon, gang.

Following a post from JASpup earlier on, it got me to thinking; could the 'zilla-based 'portables' be modified to run-as-spot in the same way as I've done for the Chrome-portable?

Answer - not unsurprisingly - yes, they can. And I know some of you prefer running this way.

So; here are alternative 'LAUNCH' scripts for both 32- and 64-bit versions of my portables. I've attached them to this post; choose the one you want, download, remove the fake .gz, and simply swap with the existing launcher.

Upon launching, this will create a 'spot' directory, along with 'profile' inside. Ownership & permissions are set accordingly, prior to starting up.

Downloads/uploads will, of course, now have to be moved out of/moved into the 'spot'directory, prior to doing what you want with them. To make this easier, my 'Spot2Root' .pets provide an easy, GUI method to manage this.....both in AND out.

mikeslr posted about them here:- https://oldforum.puppylinux.com/viewtopic.php?t=118078
And you can find them here:- https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/ ... sp=sharing

Hope some of you find these useful.

Mike.

mikewalsh wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 12:58 am

'Kay, gang. Update time again.

Another update on the 32-bit 'portable', again making use of Steve Pusser's sterling compiling efforts - v29.4.5.1. This, according to Moonchild, is to fix a serious 'regression', so.....recommended to upgrade.

You can find it at the usual link in post #1. D/l - unzip - move it anywhere you like, outside the 'save'. Click to enter, then click 'LAUNCH' to run it as a 'portable', or use the MenuAdd/Remove scripts to add (or remove) a Menu entry if one is required.

Enjoy.

Mike.

Hi Mike,
Just updated to v29.4.5.1 32bit as per your recommendation and it's working in DpupStretch. I'm posting from it now.

Thanks again,

Ken.

Okay, gang. Upgrade time again....

Here's the 32-bit Pale Moon-portable, using Steve Pusser's invaluable work. We're at v29.4.6.....couple of weeks late, I'm afraid! Link as in post#1; navigate through and help yourselves, as always.

Just a bug-fix & security release, basically.

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Usual routine:-

• D/l

• Unzip

• Move anywhere you like outside the 'save'

• Click to enter

• Click 'LAUNCH' to run as a 'portable; MenuAdd/Remove scripts give better system integration if required, by providing a Menu entry

Enjoy.

Mike.

mikewalsh wrote: ↑Sat May 07, 2022 9:00 pm

Okay, gang. Upgrade time again....

Here's the 32-bit Pale Moon-portable, using Steve Pusser's invaluable work. We're at v29.4.6

Hi Mike,
Thanks for this. Posting from it now in DpupStretch 7.5. Thanks, as well, to Steve Pusser.

Regards,

Ken.

hello mike.!
Updated and running perfectly on xenial32.

Thank you kind sir.!

@keniv / @xenial :-

You're very welcome, both of you. Enjoy.

Mike.