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Oh , the appi /flappi .jwmrc ,did figured it out , only missing flappi entry,forgot to edit my last post..
I still havent found the need to try one flatpak from flappi ,no tester testimony here .

Else ,
- i am using a chrome-latest 112 sfs ,its BK chrome dunfell sfs simply "patched" with stable debian package.
For intrepid users willing to share data with that big brother "1984" LLC ,popular adblockers+ extension still do its job.
-If like me ,in first install you pick US keyboard layout , but afterward need to change it & make it "permanent" ,
a simple bash root/startup script with setxkbmap, e.g. :
setxkbmap -layout "fr,ca" -variant "4" -model pc104

-Hmmm ,curious ,that trim feature on some boot? what triggers it ? is every 20th bootup still default?
did not count them...
Vv

To BarryK

You need to fix the link in previous post.
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Question: Is there a page explaining how to do compiling in Kirkstone?
I'd like to try compiling the nvidia driver.
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Vverve wrote: ↑Sat Apr 22, 2023 5:35 pm

-Hmmm ,curious ,that trim feature on some boot? what triggers it ? is every 20th bootup still default?
did not count them...
Vv

If memory serves me right, it is still every 20th boot.

don570 wrote: ↑Sat Apr 22, 2023 7:48 pm

To BarryK

You need to fix the link in previous post.
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Question: Is there a page explaining how to do compiling in Kirkstone?
I'd like to try compiling the nvidia driver.
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Thanks, link fixed.

Also, there is now EasySetup and EasyJWM:

https://bkhome.org/news/202304/new-easyjwm.html

I uploaded the EasyJWM post last night, edited it this morning.

Regarding compiling, there is a tutorial here:

https://easyos.org/dev/coding-for-easyos.html

For the nvidia driver, you would probably need both the 'devx' and 'kernel' SFSs loaded.
Load them in the main filesystem.

Suggestion for Version 5.2.2

-When booting for first time without a password
there is a message to enter a password for the user 'root'

My suggestion is to rewrite the words 'Note1:' and 'Note2:'
to 'Note 1:' and 'Note 2:'

It would look better and people who aren't fluent in English might understand the word 'Note' in English
and several other languages..
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compiling in Kirkstone - no internet connection at home.

I simply dragged in devx and kernel sources SFS .I didn't bother with specs and icon.

I am having problems compiling in Kirkstone.

'which gcc' command works so gcc is installed

Following BarryK instructions...
https://easyos.org/dev/coding-for-easyos.html

As an example
I tried compiling mtpaint
# ./configure --prefix=/usr --sysconfdir=/etc --localstatedir=/var --build=x86_64-pc-linux-gnu

terminal output

Invalid variable: '--sysconfdir'
Invalid variable: '--localstatedir'
Invalid variable: '--build'

I tried just ./configure
and the make command

make[1]: *** [Makefile:21: main.o] Illegal instruction
make[1]: Leaving directory '/root/mtPaint-master/src'
make: *** [Makefile:8: src] Error 2

Compiling nvidia video driver gave similar problems.
So I haven't set up environment properly for compiling.
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Blog announcement:

https://bkhome.org/news/202304/easyos-k ... eased.html

Few days ago my Vivaldi did an auto update (I think...) and I've lost all my addons, themes and I've got logged off from all websites (this forum, gmail, discord, facebk, etc.), I also had to do all the "new computer" verifications again. Thankfully Vivaldi hasn't lost tabs, so that's the most important thing. Also, help tab says it's 5.7.2921.63 (Stable channel) stable (64-bit), so I'm still not on the latest version 6.

BarryK wrote: ↑Sun Apr 30, 2023 7:51 am

Blog announcement:

https://bkhome.org/news/202304/easyos-k ... eased.html

First observations after update :
The "Apps" icon is a link to /usr/bin/pupsapps that don't exist. In the menu ( "Utilitaires" section ), the entry EasyApps is correct (it opens easyapps)

The "Setup" icon is a link to /usr/sbin/wizardwizard. No Setup or PupControl in the menu

Remarks unrelated to the update:
-The new version of the Audacity AppImage (version 3.3.1) don't work.

-When EasyOS starts, there always an image of an envelope with the number 1 that appears and disappears quickly. Is there mail somewhere?

-When EasyOS starts, there always an image of an envelope with the number 1 that appears and disappears quickly. Is there mail somewhere?

That is just the desktop notification that your network connection has been started. Pops up in the top right of my desktop, with the 'envelope' in the tasbar. It can be disabled.

Keef wrote: ↑Sun Apr 30, 2023 3:43 pm

-When EasyOS starts, there always an image of an envelope with the number 1 that appears and disappears quickly. Is there mail somewhere?

That is just the desktop notification that your network connection has been started. Pops up in the top right of my desktop, with the 'envelope' in the tasbar. It can be disabled.

@Keef , thanks for the information.

szept wrote: ↑Sun Apr 30, 2023 12:20 pm

Few days ago my Vivaldi did an auto update (I think...) and I've lost all my addons, themes and I've got logged off from all websites (this forum, gmail, discord, facebk, etc.), I also had to do all the "new computer" verifications again. Thankfully Vivaldi hasn't lost tabs, so that's the most important thing. Also, help tab says it's 5.7.2921.63 (Stable channel) stable (64-bit), so I'm still not on the latest version 6.

I didn't know that Vivaldi has an auto-update feature. See if you can turn that off.

Easy can do an update for you, whenever you require. Just choose The "latest Vivaldi" entry in the "internet" menu category.

You can update, then see if all bookmarks etc are retained. If not, can shutdown without saving, which will revert to situation before the update.

don570 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 28, 2023 9:25 pm

Suggestion for Version 5.2.2

-When booting for first time without a password
there is a message to enter a password for the user 'root'

My suggestion is to rewrite the words 'Note1:' and 'Note2:'
to 'Note 1:' and 'Note 2:'

It would look better and people who aren't fluent in English might understand the word 'Note' in English
and several other languages..
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The text in the initrd is translated when the user chooses a language, so that "Note1:" and "Note2:" is translated. For example:

bg: "Zabelezhka 1:"
cs: "Poznámka 1:"
da: "Bemærk1:"
de: "Anmerkung1:"

So I don't see any problem with how it currently is.

Caramel wrote: ↑Sun Apr 30, 2023 1:15 pm

First observations after update :
The "Apps" icon is a link to /usr/bin/pupsapps that don't exist. In the menu ( "Utilitaires" section ), the entry EasyApps is correct (it opens easyapps)

The "Setup" icon is a link to /usr/sbin/wizardwizard. No Setup or PupControl in the menu

Yes, it is a bug. I have posted the fix to the blog:

https://bkhome.org/news/202305/buglets- ... m-522.html

Caramel wrote: ↑Sun Apr 30, 2023 1:15 pm

-The new version of the Audacity AppImage (version 3.3.1) don't work.

Yes, I have lamented the serious shortcomings of the AppImage format on my blog. So serious that I am very half-heartedly supporting AppImages in EasyOS.

Audacity offers to update; however, usually this does not work with an AppImage. The app thinks it is just installed in the normal way. The creators of the AppImage should have disabled updating.

Appi can update, and I did that, it installed 3.3.1, updating from 3.2.5, and you are correct, it doesn't work. This is the second serious problem, the most serious one. There is a high probability with AppImages that if you update, it will no longer work.

Fortunately, can easily roll back to version 3.2.5. Just rename /usr/bin/audacity.bin to audacity.binV3.3.1 and rename /usr/bin/audacity.binOLD to audacity.bin

I did that, and Audacity worked again.

What's the recommended way to put EasyOS 5.2.3 on an SD memory card or a USB flash memory stick? Easydd didn't do the job the last time I tried it and EasyOS 4.5.5 won't update to 5.x.x.

What I tried, that didn't work, was to tell easydd to put the Easy5.2 img onto both a SD card and a USB stick. It seemed to do it. No errors were reported. But when I tried to boot either one, I got errors. Sorry, I don't remember what the errors were. Do I need to wipe the SD card and USB stick with Gparted before telling easydd to use them? It seemed to work before without doing that.

I never have a problem using EasyDD for Kirkstone-series fresh install and updating on a USB stick.
I have not tested yet on SD cards.

Flash wrote: ↑Mon May 01, 2023 3:04 am

What's the recommended way to put EasyOS 5.2.3 on an SD memory card or a USB flash memory stick? Easydd didn't do the job the last time I tried it and EasyOS 4.5.5 won't update to 5.x.x.

What I tried, that didn't work, was to tell easydd to put the Easy5.2 img onto both a SD card and a USB stick. It seemed to do it. No errors were reported. But when I tried to boot either one, I got errors. Sorry, I don't remember what the errors were. Do I need to wipe the SD card and USB stick with Gparted before telling easydd to use them? It seemed to work before without doing that.

You don't have to wipe them beforehand.
It should just work. All that easydd does is use 'dd' to write the drive-image file to the target drive.

Two possibilities:

1: the .img file could be wrong, you would need to do a md5sum check that it got downloaded correctly.
2: the drive media is faulty. Flash drives do deteriorate, el cheapos can go downhill fast.

@Flash and @BarryK :

EasyDD is working perfectly for me, I'm not using anything else anymore it really must be a faulty download or damaged USB. If you are sure your stick or SD is okay, you could try USB image writer from AntiX/MX Linux. That's available as Appimage too, but useless for me, coz EasyDD is so perfect, I don't need anything else.

Concerning sticks: since 2011(!!!) I got a "Verbatim Store and Go" stick 8GB, reformatted an repartitioned a million times, but still working. Kingston is good also, but I stay away from SanDisk. There are so many fakes of this brand, you never know what you get.....

I am not surprised if there are fake SanDisks around.
Here in Australia I have been buying the SanDisk Ultra from OfficeWorks and they have been reliable.

Probably a good indication of genuine-ness would be the write speed. Using easydd, writing to the SanDisk Ultra is about 24MB/sec

Yes, that's really good, well in the "Western world" inclusive Australia you buy SanDisk, you get SanDisk, but if you're ordering online from China for example, or buying at street vendors here in the Philippines, I wouldn't rely on that it's original

Ha, me again...

@Flash

I just remembered, maybe your stick has too much memory? About SD cards I don't know, I never could boot from SD, but I think it could be the problem with the FAT filesystem.

For me all USB sticks with not more than 8GB work, the ones with 16 or 32GB are working as memory, but I cannot boot from them. But I am still using legacy mode, turned off UEFI. Dunno if there's a connection to this subject....

I have two 32G and two 64G SanDisk Cruzer Blade, 8G Kingston, and a 32G *No brand USB stick--all of them perfectly runs on EasyOS using DD.

Google translate

Note2 translated in simplified Chinese (apparently correctly) 记2

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The change of folder encryption from v1 to v2 has eliminated all the hassles, everything is much simpler now. Blog post:

https://bkhome.org/news/202305/flatpak- ... pt-v2.html

v2 was introduced in 2020, in 5.4 kernel, and I should have updated, it is so much simpler.

In the initrd, Easy has, up until now, used the 'e4crypt' utility to encrypt ext4 folders. That utility is v1 only. It works on a per-process basis, which also per-user, causing great difficulty for apps that run as their own user. And flatpaks can't handle it.

v2 encrypts at the filesystem level, and encryption works for all users.

As I have mentioned in the blog post, there is going to be challenge to handle updating.

@don570

Ey sorry, don't get me wrong, I didn't mean that all Chinese are betrayers! I'm ordering many many things from there and 99% are very good - even better than European and especially US products.
But this is getting a little off-topic na, sorry again....

What's the recommended way to put EasyOS 5.2.3 on an SD memory card

SD-card has much higher read/write speed than usb-stick.
I have multiboot OS on my laptop, in general just easy to install grub2 bootloader on usb-sticks.
In reality only some OS's support sd-card install, so installing on sd-card is not on usb-stick at all.
I did many try in the past to install grub2 on sdcard include F96.

Now I am using limine bootloader on sdcard for multiOS.
F96 is bootable also on sdcard but with many errors during bootup.
Hope useful information.

BarryK wrote: ↑Sun Apr 30, 2023 10:23 pm

I didn't know that Vivaldi has an auto-update feature. See if you can turn that off.

Yup, I didn't know that either - still looking o how to turn it off:P

BarryK wrote: ↑Sun Apr 30, 2023 10:23 pm

Easy can do an update for you, whenever you require. Just choose The "latest Vivaldi" entry in the "internet" menu category.

You can update, then see if all bookmarks etc are retained. If not, can shutdown without saving, which will revert to situation before the update.

I didn't know that - this is great! I think I've lost some of the toolbar icons settings, but as you said I can simply revert it by not saving - doing it now to make sure it was different before update

szept wrote: ↑Tue May 02, 2023 7:44 pm

BarryK wrote: ↑Sun Apr 30, 2023 10:23 pm

I didn't know that Vivaldi has an auto-update feature. See if you can turn that off.

Yup, I didn't know that either - still looking o how to turn it off:P

BarryK wrote: ↑Sun Apr 30, 2023 10:23 pm

Easy can do an update for you, whenever you require. Just choose The "latest Vivaldi" entry in the "internet" menu category.

You can update, then see if all bookmarks etc are retained. If not, can shutdown without saving, which will revert to situation before the update.

I didn't know that - this is great! I think I've lost some of the toolbar icons settings, but as you said I can simply revert it by not saving - doing it now to make sure it was different before update

Or, you can take a snapshot (Filesystem -> Easy Version Control) when you have a good setup, then if things go wrong, you can roll back to it.

BarryK wrote: ↑Tue May 02, 2023 9:04 pm

Or, you can take a snapshot (Filesystem -> Easy Version Control) when you have a good setup, then if things go wrong, you can roll back to it.

Did the first snapshot few days ago. If I want to delete the snapshot do I delete the file manually?

Two more questions:

1. I'm trying to get this free licence video, but once I click on the magnet and then I click on xdg-open on the dialog window (ss below) - nuffin happens. I thought it'll open the Pctorrent app, but it doesn't. I could do it manually - download just the torrent file and open it with Pctorrent, but I don't even know how to get the torrent file in this situation. I'm using Vivaldi browser.
   

2. Would it be possible to add CANCEL button to the SHUTDOWN - SAVE or SAVE-NOT interface?