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Re: QuickPup 21.04

Posted: Thu May 20, 2021 1:01 pm
by peebee

I have uploaded :
https://sourceforge.net/projects/spup/f ... a/download
119MB - interim release
which is the delta to produce:
b9760a31468e041a451e9d2d25559e1c ScPup64-21.04+3-T.iso
from
add045380c83383e3ba04338ed200b68 ScPup64-21.04+0-T.iso


Re: QuickPup 21.04

Posted: Thu May 20, 2021 2:38 pm
by tosim

Thanks for the heads-up.


Re: QuickPup 21.04

Posted: Fri May 21, 2021 11:28 am
by mistfire
peebee wrote: Thu May 20, 2021 1:01 pm

I have uploaded :
https://sourceforge.net/projects/spup/f ... a/download
119MB - interim release
which is the delta to produce:
b9760a31468e041a451e9d2d25559e1c ScPup64-21.04+3-T.iso
from
add045380c83383e3ba04338ed200b68 ScPup64-21.04+0-T.iso

I use Scpup64-21.04+2 iso. Your delta files provided will not work. Can you provide 21.04+2--21.04+3 delta file instead?


Re: QuickPup 21.04

Posted: Sat May 22, 2021 10:40 pm
by mistfire

@peebee

I successfully extracted samba from ScPup 21.04+3 and installed it on my QuickPup64 21.04. The main SFS size reduced by 10Mb. What a big file size reduction


Re: QuickPup 21.04

Posted: Sat May 22, 2021 10:50 pm
by peebee
mistfire wrote: Sat May 22, 2021 10:40 pm

@peebee

I successfully extracted samba from ScPup 21.04+3 and installed it on my QuickPup64 21.04. The main SFS size reduced by 10Mb. What a big file size reduction

What compression and blocksize did you use?


Re: QuickPup 21.04

Posted: Sat May 22, 2021 11:01 pm
by mistfire
peebee wrote: Sat May 22, 2021 10:50 pm
mistfire wrote: Sat May 22, 2021 10:40 pm

@peebee

I successfully extracted samba from ScPup 21.04+3 and installed it on my QuickPup64 21.04. The main SFS size reduced by 10Mb. What a big file size reduction

What compression and blocksize did you use?

1Mb block size, xz compression


Re: QuickPup 21.04

Posted: Sun May 23, 2021 6:10 am
by peebee
mistfire wrote: Sat May 22, 2021 11:01 pm
peebee wrote: Sat May 22, 2021 10:50 pm
mistfire wrote: Sat May 22, 2021 10:40 pm

@peebee

I successfully extracted samba from ScPup 21.04+3 and installed it on my QuickPup64 21.04. The main SFS size reduced by 10Mb. What a big file size reduction

What compression and blocksize did you use?

1Mb block size, xz compression

Original is 0.5MB blocksize..........


Re: QuickPup 21.04

Posted: Sun May 23, 2021 6:22 am
by esos

This is the boot screen error picture and after 60 seconds just quit.
It is something wrong with created quickpupsave.3fs


Re: QuickPup 21.04

Posted: Tue May 25, 2021 4:35 am
by mistfire
esos wrote: Sun May 23, 2021 6:22 am

This is the boot screen error picture and after 60 seconds just quit.
It is something wrong with created quickpupsave.3fs

Does your drive where the savefile is created works fine without filesystem corruptions?


Re: QuickPup 21.04

Posted: Wed May 26, 2021 6:06 am
by esos

I think my HDD works fine. It is setup with grub4dos for multiboot, hundreds of bootable ISO files (ntfs-sda5) and frugal folders (EXT3-sda6) for testing.

I replaced the created quickpupsave.3fs with previous version (dont remember which .3fs version it was) and it booted up fine with this menu.lst:
title Quickpup_21.04
root (hd0,5)
kernel /Quickpup/vmlinuz psave=/Quickpup pmedia=atahd pupsfs=sda6:/Quickpup/puppy_quickpup_21.00.sfs psubdir=/Quickpup
initrd /Quickpup/initrd.xz

This G4D configuration also works fine, but it will not create quickpupsave.3fs. It will save automatically without asking YES or NO and will create automatically a lot of folders inside /quickpup/
title Quickpup_21.04
root (hd0,5)
kernel /Quickpup/vmlinuz pupsfs=sda6:/Quickpup/puppy_quickpup_21.00.sfs psubdir=/Quickpup psave=sda6:/Quickpup pmedia=atahd
initrd /Quickpup/initrd.xz


Re: QuickPup 21.04

Posted: Wed May 26, 2021 9:59 pm
by mistfire
esos wrote: Wed May 26, 2021 6:06 am

I think my HDD works fine. It is setup with grub4dos for multiboot, hundreds of bootable ISO files (ntfs-sda5) and frugal folders (EXT3-sda6) for testing.

I replaced the created quickpupsave.3fs with previous version (dont remember which .3fs version it was) and it booted up fine with this menu.lst:
title Quickpup_21.04
root (hd0,5)
kernel /Quickpup/vmlinuz psave=/Quickpup pmedia=atahd pupsfs=sda6:/Quickpup/puppy_quickpup_21.00.sfs psubdir=/Quickpup
initrd /Quickpup/initrd.xz

This G4D configuration also works fine, but it will not create quickpupsave.3fs. It will save automatically without asking YES or NO and will create automatically a lot of folders inside /quickpup/
title Quickpup_21.04
root (hd0,5)
kernel /Quickpup/vmlinuz pupsfs=sda6:/Quickpup/puppy_quickpup_21.00.sfs psubdir=/Quickpup psave=sda6:/Quickpup pmedia=atahd
initrd /Quickpup/initrd.xz

If the storage device was fine, did you check the filesystem if was not corrupted? Well according to your bootloader configuration, savepath was already specified on PSAVE parameter so it will automatically save the session upon shutdown


Re: QuickPup 21.04

Posted: Sat May 29, 2021 4:00 am
by esos

"did you check the filesystem if was not corrupted?"

Sorry, I dont know how to check the filesystem is corrupted or not.
In my case, the created save file "quickpupsave.3fs" is exist in the /Quickpup folder and at next booting Quickpup v.21.04 give me boot error (see the boot error picture I sent). The result using other PC is exactly the same boot error.

Hope somebody will do the test?
or maybe just my mistake somewhere.


QuickPup 21.04

Posted: Sat May 29, 2021 12:00 pm
by mistfire

64-bit QuickPup is now eminent for release. However it hit another roadblock, double clicking a file on a Desktop shows Dbus error message related to Thunar and it turns out that Thunar crashed when called by dbus upon request by xfdesktop. However launching Thunar from terminal or double clicking /usr/bin/thunar doesn't crash thunar


Re: QuickPup 21.04 & MegaSync Not running!

Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2021 11:16 pm
by +Me

G'day Mistfire, I've Successfully installed this 32-bit Quickpup 21.04 on a 32-bit 2014 Acer C720 KromeBook No longer supported by Google ( ie. No more updates ). Using MrChromeBox Firmware. I don't want 2 use Google Drive because it only offers 15 GB of Cloud Storage whereas We can have 50 GB 4 Free w/ MegaSync. I've installed megasync-Debian_10.0_i3-86.deb But it doesn't run. When I Try 2 run it from the Terminal it just returns megasync: error while loading shared libraries: libmediainfo.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory. Of course I've already ReSearched this Error on the iNet.

Furthermore I've got another Dozen or so of these... Please Help!

;-)K


Re: QuickPup 21.04 & MegaSync Not running!

Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2021 7:49 am
by mistfire
+Me wrote: Sun Jun 06, 2021 11:16 pm

megasync: error while loading shared libraries: libmediainfo.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory.

  • Search List Dependencies on Application Menu

  • Click Browse and select the megasync executable command at /usr/bin then click OK

  • Click Missing to find out what library files where missing

  • Go to https://pkgs.org to search for missing packages. Choose debian version of the package


Re: QuickPup 21.04

Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2021 4:14 am
by +Me

Thanx Mistfire 4 your Quick Reply, I've Tried 3 Packages But they're Not installing. Could it be because the Repository only offers intel 64-bit Not i686 aRchitectures?

;-)K


Re: QuickPup 21.04

Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2021 10:57 am
by mistfire
+Me wrote: Tue Jun 08, 2021 4:14 am

Could it be because the Repository only offers intel 64-bit Not i686 aRchitectures?

Mostly Fedora, Slackware, Debian still supports 32-bit.
Sadly to say that 32-bit packages was getting rare and I have no choice but to move to 64-bit since QuickPup target was 2010's or newer computers which commonly uses 64-bit cpu. QuickPup64 is now reached BETA and requires fixes for XFCE 4.16 in order to reached stable release.


Re: QuickPup 21.04

Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2021 2:41 pm
by ronriel

Mostly Fedora, Slackware, Debian still supports 32-bit.
Sadly to say that 32-bit packages was getting rare and I have no choice but to move to 64-bit since QuickPup target was 2010's or newer computers which commonly uses 64-bit cpu. QuickPup64 is now reached BETA and requires fixes for XFCE 4.16 in order to reached stable release.

Yay! Great news!

I agree with this direction. I wonder how many people actually have 32-bit machines nowadays. My oldest PC is almost 10 years old, but it's 64-bit already.


Re: QuickPup 21.04

Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2021 5:51 pm
by +Me

But I don't understand the point of having an eMbedded 64-bit CPU on a device that's Ltd 2 an eMbedded 2 GB RAMemory!?!

Puppy iz / has Always been the Best or ideal Candidate for 15 - 20 year Old Hardware Pre dating X64-bit aRchitecture.

;-\K


Re: QuickPup 21.04

Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 5:36 am
by +Me

G'day Mistfire, I Really Do like this Quickpup because of the XFCE Desktop.

So I Hope yoU can Help w/ a couple of niggling issues. Those being Boot time iz 1 minute 13 seconds to the Desktop, I'd like 2 Chop that in 1/2, there's a couple of pauses in the Boot Process that I don't know what's happening. The Subject iz a 2014 Acer C720 KromeBook ( 1.4 GHz Dual Core intel Celeron, Handicapped by 2GB RAMemory, But w/ the slight benefit of a 16GB SSD ) it's a Frugal install. Any Suggestion about what I can Do 2 Speed the Boot up Will be Welcome!

Also wunce Desktop iz Loaded the Wireless interNet doesn't Automatically connect even tho I have put in the WiFi SSid Password, I have 2 Manually Clic' on the WiFI Network Connection icon & Choose my SSid & then it Connects, so the Compound eFfect of that iz a less than impressive User eXperience. How can I Remedy that? Please & Thanx

;-)K


Re: QuickPup 21.04

Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2021 6:16 am
by +Me

Mistfire Please Help, X isn't starting! Not even running from USB Flash Dr. I've Typed xwin & xwin xfce ( says, xfce-session does not exist or is not a valid executable.. ) I've Also started xorgwizard, But I'm Not getting any joy...

Please Help!

;-\K


Re: QuickPup 21.04

Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2021 12:45 pm
by mistfire
+Me wrote: Wed Jun 23, 2021 6:16 am

xwin xfce

Use this command to start the xfce

Code: Select all

xwin xfce4

Re: QuickPup 21.04

Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2021 2:20 pm
by +Me

Thanx Mistfire 4 your reply However xwin xfce4 failed 2 start x, what next Please?

Also on another identical Acer C720 KromeBook that I've Run this Quickpup on & am intending 2 install it on ( & like the 3 previous Acer C720 KromeBooks that I've done so ) GParted doesn't offer eXt4 File System Format, so I've had 2 Use an eXternal GParted Live 2 Format the Local internal SSD which iz of course time consuming & a hassle. I've Researched the Default Btrfs & my conclusion iz that it's Mature enough & Better Suited 2 SSD than eXt4 for Primetime, so I'm Keen 2 Try it... However the default Grub4Dos doesn't detect the Default Btrfs so I can't use it! Of course I've Already Researched the issue on the INet & I'm yet 2 find a solution. What's the Secret Please?

Thanx 4 your Support.

;-\K


Re: QuickPup 21.04

Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2021 11:13 pm
by mistfire
+Me wrote: Wed Jun 23, 2021 2:20 pm

Thanx Mistfire 4 your reply However xwin xfce4 failed 2 start x, what next Please?

Also on another identical Acer C720 KromeBook that I've Run this Quickpup on & am intending 2 install it on ( & like the 3 previous Acer C720 KromeBooks that I've done so ) GParted doesn't offer eXt4 File System Format, so I've had 2 Use an eXternal GParted Live 2 Format the Local internal SSD which iz of course time consuming & a hassle. I've Researched the Default Btrfs & my conclusion iz that it's Mature enough & Better Suited 2 SSD than eXt4 for Primetime, so I'm Keen 2 Try it... However the default Grub4Dos doesn't detect the Default Btrfs so I can't use it! Of course I've Already Researched the issue on the INet & I'm yet 2 find a solution. What's the Secret Please?

Thanx 4 your Support.

;-\K

Well, here is the painful option. Boot QuickPup in pristine state without loading your affected savefile and create new save file to work with.

For booting from btrfs. Use grub2 not grub4dos


Re: QuickPup 21.04

Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2021 10:26 pm
by +Me

G'day again Mistfire, I wasn't able 2 Boot Quickpup without the SaveFile or Folder ( I'm Guessing there's Builtin Script preventing it despite there being Menu Options 2 Do so in the default Build ) Anyway my Work around was 2 install CloudReadyOS over the top & then Start again w/ Quickpup which Worked getting X back again, But Obviously this iz a significant time consuming issue when I've got another 13 of these Acer C720 KromeBooks 2 do )

Also once a Fresh Pristine Quickpup iz Running from USB, I Found & installed grub2 from the Puppy Package Manager, after Updating the Package Lists & it Told me it was Successful, However it iz Nowhere 2 be found within the Live OS & when I call it from the Terminal it tells me command not found, yet it iz Definitely installed & Present in the PPM. Obviously I Do Need Grub2 & menu.lst 2 Boot this Quickpup. it's Frustrating about the apparent incompatibility between Btrfs & Grub.

Please Help...

;-\K


Re: QuickPup 21.04

Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2021 11:54 pm
by mistfire
+Me wrote: Thu Jun 24, 2021 10:26 pm

G'day again Mistfire, I wasn't able 2 Boot Quickpup without the SaveFile or Folder ( I'm Guessing there's Builtin Script preventing it despite there being Menu Options 2 Do so in the default Build ) Anyway my Work around was 2 install CloudReadyOS over the top & then Start again w/ Quickpup which Worked getting X back again, But Obviously this iz a significant time consuming issue when I've got another 13 of these Acer C720 KromeBooks 2 do )

Also once a Fresh Pristine Quickpup iz Running from USB, I Found & installed grub2 from the Puppy Package Manager, after Updating the Package Lists & it Told me it was Successful, However it iz Nowhere 2 be found within the Live OS & when I call it from the Terminal it tells me command not found, yet it iz Definitely installed & Present in the PPM. Obviously I Do Need Grub2 & menu.lst 2 Boot this Quickpup. it's Frustrating about the apparent incompatibility between Btrfs & Grub.

Please Help...

;-\K

This link might help you
https://unix.stackexchange.com/question ... -subvolume


Re: QuickPup 21.04

Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2021 7:15 pm
by Clarity

The PPM GRUB2 "appears" to have been crippled by development, I think. I dont know why this is or what the intent is in doing so.

IT would be nice if:

  • the PPM allowed GRUB2 and its utilities to be installed,

  • OR (a better solution) featured OOTB in the WoofCE distros.

Maybe in the future, development will notice and adjust.


Re: QuickPup 21.04

Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2021 3:06 am
by +Me

I guess I'll have 2 stick w/ eXt4 in the meantime because the suggested solution https://unix.stackexchange.com/question ... -subvolume looks a bit Challenging 2 me... ;-\K


Re: QuickPup 21.04

Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2021 11:31 pm
by +Me

G'day Mistfire, Please Help w/ this Locale Problem, when I Need 2 Start AnyDesk, a similar Problem was Solved by peebee the Developer of aRchPup 32 Bit. viewtopic.php?f=33&t=56&start=13


Re: QuickPup 21.04

Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2021 12:11 pm
by mistfire
+Me wrote: Mon Sep 13, 2021 11:31 pm

G'day Mistfire, Please Help w/ this Locale Problem, when I Need 2 Start AnyDesk, a similar Problem was Solved by peebee the Developer of aRchPup 32 Bit. viewtopic.php?f=33&t=56&start=13

Use run-as-spot script to run Anydesk in root account