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Hello Guys how are you all ? Got 2 issues and need some help

I have made a script to make a offline instalation of multiple apps and works well in Fossa but in Bionic32 dosen't work.
I need to install first pkg-1.9.22-noarch.pet then i open terminal and run my script and aperently everything is installed but at the end isn't install it, some times some apps are install but in general they never are. since i cant see them in menu or call them via terminal.
I have try it to run script with debs in internal HD, USB 2.0/3.0 and nuthing tooo

P.S. When i close laptop "Sleep", when i hope it again i need to restart "grafic interface server" in order to view the mouse icon.

This is all for now thxx and all the best to all

Is the lead thread for BionicPup32-8.0 the proper place to raise a question relating to programming scripts?
P.S. 'though I welcomed the reminder, I have doubts that kuman's post above is also properly located.

I ask in telegram where i could raise the issue and Pikudoz tould to put it here since i got the issue in Bionic32
And i got a second issue too

AntonioPt wrote: ↑Wed Nov 03, 2021 8:41 pm

I have made a script to make a offline instalation of multiple apps and works well in Fossa but in Bionic32 dosen't work.
I need to install first pkg-1.9.22-noarch.pet then i open terminal and run my script and aperently everything is installed but at the end isn't install it, some times some apps are install but in general they never are. since i cant see them in menu or call them via terminal.

This seems to be a question about why pkg does not work on BionicPup32.........
I know there is some configuration of pkg needed - to ensure it is accessing the correct repositories for example - and it may not be setup correctly for Bionic32............ surmising

You may be better asking at:
viewtopic.php?t=3795
where pkg experts may lurk (I'm not one).

Not 100% sure but I think Pkg might not be installed by default on Bionic32-8.0. Possibly re-installing it might fix it.

https://gitlab.com/sc0ttj/Pkg

rockedge wrote: ↑Thu Nov 04, 2021 9:16 pm

Not 100% sure but I think Pkg might not be installed by default on Bionic32-8.0. Possibly re-installing it might fix it.

https://gitlab.com/sc0ttj/Pkg
pkg-1.9.22-noarch.pet

Thxx but that's not the issue there is some else besides that

peebee wrote: ↑Thu Nov 04, 2021 4:06 pm

AntonioPt wrote: ↑Wed Nov 03, 2021 8:41 pm

I have made a script to make a offline instalation of multiple apps and works well in Fossa but in Bionic32 dosen't work.
I need to install first pkg-1.9.22-noarch.pet then i open terminal and run my script and aperently everything is installed but at the end isn't install it, some times some apps are install but in general they never are. since i cant see them in menu or call them via terminal.

This seems to be a question about why pkg does not work on BionicPup32.........
I know there is some configuration of pkg needed - to ensure it is accessing the correct repositories for example - and it may not be setup correctly for Bionic32............ surmising

You may be better asking at:
viewtopic.php?t=3795
where pkg experts may lurk (I'm not one).

Thxx gonna read all and see if i can fix it

pkg --version
Pkg 1.9.23
and this is the result guys

another test

please don't use cdrkit

Bionic 32 works beautifully with a 2011 DELL E6220 thin business-grade rugged laptop with matte screen, including video, sound, ethernet, and probably wifi but I forgot to turn the wifi switch back on. Precise-Light could not handle ethernet or wifi. I will also try Bionic64 since it is said to do Zoom and the 32-bit Zoom does not work (as I confirmed). The touchpad has the usual problem of acting like you touched it when your thumbs get anywhere near it. The usual solution is to plug in a mouse and disable the touchpad, which I never managed to adjust to work right.

Two older HP laptops (2006 dv5000 and 2009 dv2) have Intel PRO100 VE (dv5000) ethernet which puppy identifies as using e100. They find live network but will not ping or connect. Do I need to run additional software?

Tahr and Precise Lite have the same problem. I did not try Bionic64. The dv2 has a 64-bit cpu and can take 4GB.

No pcmcia slots. Wifi works in both.

The e100 driver needs firmware, but it should be present in most Puppies.

Run your standard diagnostic: dmesg | grep -i firmware

No reply?

That's too bad. There are more diagnostic tests to help solve this problem.

I read your post and did research on e100 and firmware but have not found the three .bin files needed except in a large Debian collection of non-free firmware. Is there some site that provides individual firmware files? Do I simply copy them to ..../e100/?

@sindi
You should have
d101m_ucode.bin d101s_ucode.bin d102e_ucode.bin
in the fdrv.......

what .bin's do you need??

dmesg | grep -i firmware

pci 000.08.08.0: firmware left e100 interrupts enabled; disabling

Also ifconfig shows that the IP address of enp8s8 is 169.254.97.176, which is NOT in the router's network.

It sounds to me like your Ethernet adapter is working but your Puppy network connection software is not.

Run: ifconfig -a

Is your Ethernet adapter xxx listed?

Run: ifconfig xxx up

Is there an error message?

Run: dhcpcd xxx

Does it acquire a valid IP address?

ifconfig -a enp8s8 is listed with no IP address

ifconfig enp8s8 up (Enter gives a blank line)

dhcpcd enp8s8 Soliciting a DHCP lease. Probing for IPv4LL 169.254.97.176

Other people with the message about disabling concluded there was a bug or bugs. One person found in rc.conf a stray space.
The message has been annoying people since at least 2007. My hardware is 2006 and 2009. I have not tested with 2006 Puppy linux.

Run: dmesg | grep e100

Are there any serious errors?

Are you sure that your wired ethernet setup is working? Does it work OK with other machines or other Puppies?

I wonder if this driver is no longer compatible with modern systems but is still being included in the kernel.

Please excuse me: I have already put, by mistake, the following message in another thread of this forum when I should have put it here:

I did a Bionic 32 frugal install. I had a message "missing system" (or something like this). To make it working with a old computer, I had to add grub legacy. And, this way, it works.
Then I added several things and I tried to remaster it (menu - setup - Remaster Puppy live CD). To be able to do it, I had to burned a CD (strange to remaster an USB...)
I get a new iso. I did a new frugal install with it. But, again, I have a message "missing system" (or something like this). So, I had, again, to add grub legacy. This way, it works and, in this new USB I have everything I added in the first USB frugal install,

So I should like to know what I must add, when I am remastering, to get, already, grub legacy, in the new iso. Remastering, there are 2, or 3, messages telling me I can add anything I want before to go on remastering, but I don't know what to do exactly.

My objective is not to have a new frugal install on a USB-stick for the same computer. I know very well how to do a frugal install, with unetbootin, which will work, not only with the same computer.
My objective is to build a new iso, and to send it to a friend, and so, to add grub legacy, within the iso,
Excuse my bad english.
Thank you for your help

How to uninstall Firefox if it was installed with get browser?

oafunv wrote: ↑Wed Dec 15, 2021 7:05 am

How to uninstall Firefox if it was installed with get browser?

Delete firefox.sfs and reboot

xenialpup-7.5-uefi.iso at 324.7M vs. UPupBB 272M at Sourceforge.
(newer over 50M smaller, maybe 20M of that Pale Moon 27 vs. Light 48)

My present version:

I am stuck with a partition mounting dilemma. Recently I am using LxPup in JWM to use PCManFM & Thunar, but with Places I can mount partitions for XFE & Roxfiler instead. There has to be a facile way to mount partitions besides Pmount or cli. Adding Places to JWM is more project. It's a handy skill.

My Pale Moon has issues with permissions in Bionic (forcing a Profile and not liking my config directories). If Bionic is going to be 50M less, I would not want it to be missing anything important.

I am a little more adept in JWMDesk vs. Ptheme.

I want one JWM version and one XFCE, but the dust remains unsettled.

JASpup wrote: ↑Mon Dec 20, 2021 4:03 am

xenialpup-7.5-uefi.iso at 324.7M vs. UPupBB 272M at Sourceforge.
(newer over 50M smaller, maybe 20M of that Pale Moon 27 vs. Light 48)

My present version:
mybionic.png

I am stuck with a partition mounting dilemma. Recently I am using LxPup in JWM to use PCManFM & Thunar, but with Places I can mount partitions for XFE & Roxfiler instead. There has to be a facile way to mount partitions besides Pmount or cli. Adding Places to JWM is more project. It's a handy skill.

My Pale Moon has issues with permissions in Bionic (forcing a Profile and not liking my config directories). If Bionic is going to be 50M less, I would not want it to be missing anything important.

I am a little more adept in JWMDesk vs. Ptheme.

I want one JWM version and one XFCE, but the dust remains unsettled.

The size depends on the method and level of compression. I've just checked the sizes of the base sfs's of Bionic 32 and Xenial 7.5. Bionic base sfs is 795MB uncompressed (the base does not include a browser) and Xenial 780MB uncompressed. But Xenial base sfs includes Palemoon, so you can exclude another 97MB uncompressed so Xenial base is actually 683Mb without the browser. So Xenial base sfs compared to Bionic base sfs is actually much smaller. BTW: I think standard issue Xenial was compressed with gzip and Bionic with xz compression. xz compression makes for much smaller archival sizes. As a matter of interest - you can run that Light browser with Xenial, I actually run it with Precise too.

amethyst wrote: ↑Mon Dec 20, 2021 8:55 am

The size depends on the method and level of compression. I've just checked the sizes of the base sfs's of Bionic 32 and Xenial 7.5. Bionic base sfs is 795MB uncompressed (the base does not include a browser) and Xenial 780MB uncompressed. But Xenial base sfs includes Palemoon, so you can exclude another 97MB uncompressed so Xenial base is actually 683Mb without the browser. So Xenial base sfs compared to Bionic base sfs is actually much smaller. BTW: I think standard issue Xenial was compressed with gzip and Bionic with xz compression. xz compression makes for much smaller archival sizes.

That's an insight.

I find no performance handicap with higher compression. I do not remember if Barry's remaster script offers a choice, but perhaps I should resquash it making sure it's .xz.

Really what this is all about for me is partition mounting. I want Places so I don't have to use Thunar or PCManFM or Pmount or visible desktop partitions (they still have to be activated present or not to use Places).

A smaller distro in 2gb ram is a fringe benefit.

Norgo cobbled together something that is supposed to make the alt-file managers work in 32 Xenial, but the 'opaque box' fixes don't work for me as well as instructions or standard options.

I think needing the likes of peebea or norgo to use a standard file manager in an alternative desktop environment is pretty ridiculous.

Before Places I was booting LxPup Xenial for PCManFM standard mounting.

Now its Bionic for the tray utility.

It's the same cause with different constraints.

As a matter of interest - you can run that Light browser with Xenial, I actually run it with Precise too.

Light is useful but I'm usually in a new Pale Moon about double the .sfs size (still smaller than everything else). Just undid Bionic's adrv.

I find no performance handicap with higher compression.

Gzip is much faster compressing data (very noticable when doing a remaster) and also a lot faster decompressing. However, you won't find much of a performance difference in terms of decompressing for running the operating system as Puppy is a relatively small distro. You will find that applications compressed as extra sfs with gzip opens a bit faster.

amethyst wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 10:05 am

Gzip is much faster compressing data (very noticable when doing a remaster)

That I've noticed.

I'll run Firefox off a USB 2.0 standalone.

Decompressing nothing, the speed handicap is straining the CPU running these big browsers and loading pages, no matter how/where the app is stored (save anything short of a USB 1.0).

Don't wish to go too off topic here. On track is Bionic offers Places in a Upup (currently using it in Slacko6).

Is that better than:

• LxPup Xenial?

• Hacking glib or whatever for alt-FM mounting in Mainline Xenial?

• Trying to make X-Tahr do everything Xenial JWM does?

• Hacking Places into Tahr/Xenial?

AntonioPt wrote: ↑Fri Nov 05, 2021 2:32 am

pkg --version
Pkg 1.9.23
and this is the result guys

installed the same packages for test ( used pkg 1.9.22 )
worked without problems for me