F96_4-CE 4th Gen Dev Tester with a New Kernel 6.0.9 Made for F96

[Jasper]

I would like to "second" the request for TLDR to be included in a future build. It is helpful and can be used offline too.
Or an alternative if someone could make a suggestion?

[Clarity]

Hello @radky

I've already reported on the booting of this distro via its ISO file. So far, I have booted this via every ISO file booter I have without issue; namely Ventoy, SG2D, QEMU, and ISObooter. Every one of this also is capable of pristine operations, creation of their save-session, and finding the saves upon reboot with NO interruption or change in any boot stanzas at boot time. EXCELLENT Builds allow this kind of Frugal operation with no need to move ISO contents for any reason for a complete and thorough PUP operation.

This POST is to share something extraordinary in past PUP use on the LAN. As most members do, I use SAMBA to share specific PC folders from the local PC to others on the LAN (TV, etc.). On this PC that I have exchanged and written files to/from it for years, running Slacko v8 bare-metal.

I dont know what you may have done, but for some unknown (at this time) F96 is exchanging files to and from it at a speed unseen on this PC before. Your implementation of SAMBA does not show anything different, but, something has affected performance exceptionally for writing files to it over the LAN from others as well as the behavior of the SAMBA utilities baked into this distro. File transfers have ALWAYS been faster than writing files to most all of my USB sticks (they are slow by any metric). But, this F96 best the prior distro(s) used on this old PC.

If you know, pat yourself on the back, if not, then just smile...I am.

Hats off to both you and @rockedge for this thread and the work effort you present us, here, on the forum. THANKS!!!

P.S. 15% faster using F96 for 2GB file transfer tests.

[geo_c]

So I finally booted the iso I had downloaded. Really nice! I'm just checking to see if I've got the latest and greatest. My iso is: F96_4-CE_radky4. Is that the latest release?

Fossapup has always had a nice toolset, and this is new one is even better.

[wizard]

@geo_c

radky5 is here:
https://www.smokey01.com/radky/Testing/ ... radky5.iso

wizard

[rockedge]

Due to most likely a technician flipping the wrong switch while servicing a neighbor I have lost Internet service until the provider sends another tech to turn the switch back on. Which may take up to four days and is no fault of my own or my equipment's.

This has given me the opportunity to try out the USB tethering to a mobile phone with cellular data. Conman does identify the usb tether device but I have not been able to switch over to use it, I used the Network manager switcher to select the Network Wizard to make the connection which worked as expected. Network Wizard "saw" the usb network device and allowed it's selection. Using the wizards steps the connection to Internet was made.

In summary: F96_4-radky5-CE works well with a tethered Internet connection via an inexpensive mobile phone.

So I can type this and work on some things but will need to wait to upload anything significant (i.e. ISO files)

[wizard]

@rockedge

The fortunes of tech, I lost mine last week for a couple of days when someone chopped a fiber cable up. Have dumb phone, so had to wait for them to fix.
Luckily, I have movies on my file server, so still had plenty of entertainment.

wizard

[keniv]

Well I thought I would try this as it seems to be an example of the way in which puppy linux is moving. There are now three posts on this which I found a little confusing. I made the mistake of downloading the version on the first post of this thread before reading all the posts in the thread. I have also now had an attempt to download the latest version F96_4-CE_radky6.iso. This took well over an hour then "failed" at 482MB. I have tried again and had problems with the download each time. Has anybody else had this problem? I am trying yet again to download it as I type this. It's currently sitting at 7m to go. Sorry just gone back up again. I am not confident this download will work either. However, I have installed F96_4-CE 4th Gen. I have a manual frugal install on an hdd formatted as ext3. I'm booting from grub4dos. I largely copied what I used to boot FossaPup64 95. i.e.

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title F96-4-CE (64bit) (sda2/F96-4-CE)
  find --set-root uuid () 60e6917a-e1db-44f9-8d58-6f0df737eeb5
  kernel /F96-4-CE/vmlinuz  psubdir=/F96-4-CE pmedia=atahd pfix=fsck
  initrd /F96-4-CE/initrd.gz

This worked but gave a number of errors which flew by at a rate which made them impossible to read. It did boot to a desktop. I did some setting up all of which worked. I then shutdown and chose to make a save file (I like them). I had a look at the "boot" folder in the iso and looked at the examples in grub>menu.lst and found this

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title fossapup64 9.6
  kernel /vmlinuz    pmedia=cd pfix=fsck
  errorcheck off
  initrd /initrd.gz
  initrd /ucode.cpio /initrd.gz

I included errorcheck off in my code below the kernel line hoping it would suppress the errors I see at boot up but it doesn't. So I have a number of questions.
1. What's causing the error codes?
2. Should including errorcheck off stop them and is it in the correct place?
3. Have these errors been noticed by others
4. Have any been addressed in the updates?
5. What does ucode.cpio do?
I now appear to have a copy of F96_4-CE_radky6.iso, downloaded while I was typing, at 483 MB. Is there an md5 checksum for this.
I'd appreciate any help with the above. I'll now have a go at installing the F96_4-CE_radky6.iso.

Regards,

Ken.
Edit: Now have a manual frugal install of F96_4-CE_radky6.iso. using a similar boot stanza to that for F96-4-CE including errorcheck off. Do not see errors at bootup anymore. Did a basic setup and made a save file. Have both rebooted and shutdown and rebooted and all seems fine. I'm posting from it now. My initial impression is that it looks much more polished than F96_4-CE 4th Gen. Will spend some more time on it latter.

[rockedge]

@keniv Yes all of the boot errors in the F96 versions have been fixed in all of radky versions and can be ignored in the F96 version prior to the radky versions.

Many many improvements and fixes have occurred between this earlier version and the current version. The kernels have been changed several times to find the right fit.

Please transition to F96_4-radky6-CE for a real look at this new Fossapup, early versions before the radkyXX versions are depreciated.

Install it just like any Fossapup64.

The file ucode.cpio is micro code for the kernel to add enhanced kernel hardening.

If you have continued problems downloading the ISO, I can make another download location available.

[geo_c]

Please transition to F96_4-radky6-CE for a real look at this new Fossapup, early versions before the radkyXX versions are depreciated.

Is radky6 available on the same link you provided me above for radky5? Or should I just wait for the upcoming official release? I'm in no hurry.

[rockedge]

@geo_c Here is the link for the ISO :
F96_4-radky6-CE

If there are any problems downloading it I can make another download location available!

[keniv]

@rockedge
Sorry I made an edit to my post and have obviously crossed with yours. Here's the edit.

Edit: Now have a manual frugal install of F96_4-CE_radky6.iso. using a similar boot stanza to that for F96-4-CE including errorcheck off. Do not see errors at bootup anymore. Did a basic setup and made a save file. Have both rebooted and shutdown and rebooted and all seems fine. I'm posting from it now. My initial impression is that it looks much more polished than F96_4-CE 4th Gen. Will spend some more time on it latter.

Thanks for your answers to my questions.

The file ucode.cpio is micro code for the kernel to add enhanced kernel hardening.

Should I include the ucode.cpio in my boot stanza then?

If you have continued problems downloading the ISO, I can make another download location available.

Well it still took quite a time to download though this time it appears to have been successful. It might be helpful to me and others particularly if there are further updates.

@geo_c

Is radky6 available on the same link you provided me above for radky5? Or should I just wait for the upcoming official release? I'm in no hurry.

I got it from here.
https://www.smokey01.com/radky/Testing/

Regards.

Ken.

Edit: Sorry, posts crossed again.

[one]

@geo_c Here is the link for the ISO :
F96_4-radky6-CE

If there are any problems downloading it I can make another download location available!

Yes, please.

I have the same problem as @keniv,

I reported here:

viewtopic.php?p=75662#p75662.

peace

[tosim]

F96_4-radky6-CE downloaded fine for me. Thanks.

[radky]

@keniv & @one

Prior reports have indicated chrome based browsers may have problems with Smokey's server.

You could try a different browser, or perhaps a dedicated download application such as Uget.

[one]

Hi @radky,

yes - I was using chromium. As I wrote in my linked post I moved to firefox after several unsuccessful attempts ("network error") and all went well.

The problem with chromium arises only with big files like the FP96 iso, smaller files are no problem.

Thanks for your answer ...

peace

[keniv]

@radky

Prior reports have indicated chrome based browsers may have problems with Smokey's server.

I first tried to download last night. I originally started using palemoon. It was on palemoon that the download took more than an hour then "failed" at 483 MB. I tried a number of times with palemoon but the download attempts were always very slow and I ended up aborting them. I have firefox and iron as portables both up to date. I then tried firefox and had the same problems as with palemoon. I then tried iron and again had the very slow download problem. I think of these three browsers only iron is chrome based. When I finally got it to download this morning I was using palemoon but it was still slow though not as bad as yesterday. It's interesting that @tosim didn't have a problem downloading.

or perhaps a dedicated download application such as Uget.

I have a vague recollection of using Uget in the past but I think that was under somebodies instructions. I'll have a look and see if I can work out how to use it.
Can I just take the opportunity of thanking you for the work and time you've put into this. I've only been using it for a shot time but I'm already impressed with it.

Regards,

Ken.

[mikeslr]

@ One, rather than trying to download large files with browsers, use Uget. It's builtin to most (all?) Puppy's. See this post, viewtopic.php?p=77188#p77188 and the others on that thread.

[one]

Thanks @radky and @mikeslr,

for mentioning uget.

It is not included in my current jammypup32 (you can install it via PPM),
so I used wget with the -c option.

Happy new year and ... peace