Manual Frugal Install with some Rox Tips

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I'm not sure I understood; so tell me if I'm correct:
⚬ you created this manual ― just for your purposes.
⚬if I want to just install Puppy, as a regular user that is not going to mess around with it ― I can just use FrugalPup, and point to the ISO file of the system I want to install; without doing anything from this manual.

Also - is F96 already installed on the flash-card, since I followed all the instructions? If not - what do I do now?

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MrAccident wrote: Tue Apr 25, 2023 8:07 am

I'm not sure I understood; so tell me if I'm correct:
⚬ you created this manual ― just for your purposes.
No. By manual I mean I decompressed the ISO and manually copied contents to a folder rather than using an application which would automate those steps. Why would I bother to post a procedure I was only doing for my own purposes? .

⚬if I want to just install Puppy, as a regular user that is not going to mess around with it ― I can just use FrugalPup, and point to the ISO file of the system I want to install; without doing anything from this manual.

Maybe, see below. frugalpup writes the grub2 bootloader to the partition you select and creates on that partition a text file named grub.cfg. grub2 can boot an operating system within an ISO which has not been decompressed IF the argument in grub.cfg is properly written. Off hand, I don't know how to write that and I'm not going to take the time to search for it. See below.

Also - is F96 already installed on the flash-card, since I followed all the instructions? If not - what do I do now?

Which instructions did you follow?
The reason I not going to do any further investigation and writing about your problems and questions here is THIS IS THE THREAD ABOUT DOING INSTALLS USING EITHER GRUB4DOS OR GRUB2CONFIG. You used frugalpup. It has its own thread. viewtopic.php?p=1588#p1588 Please direct your questions to that thread if for no other reason than that by doing so they will come to the attention of those who use frugalpup and understand it better; and it will be easier for future users of frugalpup to find the information provided in reply.

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I followed the instructions in this thread.
I continued the instructions in the post that starts with "Boot your Puppy. Open Menu>Setup>Puppy Installer". It talks about FrugalPup. Is this not part of the instructions?
I finished all the instructions prior. I used Grub4Dos; cause that's what I have inbuilt.

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Re: Manual Frugal Install with some Rox Tips

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My apologies. I forgot that I did write, Frugal Install to USB-Key using the 'Universal' Puppy Installer, https://www.forum.puppylinux.com/viewto ... 911#p51911 on this thread and am now sorry that I did. I should have started a different thread; or not mentioned it at all, leaving to someone who uses it the job of explaining it. In retrospect, including it in this thread was an invitation to create confusion.

As I've often said, I have a flaky memory. It's likely that the last time I used the 'Universal Puppy Installer' was while (or just before) writing that post. So I'm guessing from your original post that you had a running Puppy somewhere and wanted to make a copy of it somewhere else. For example, you're running Puppy is on a USB-Key and the somewhere else is on a hard-drive. In that case, the 'Source' is your USB-Key (or folder on the USB-Key if Puppy is in a folder) while the 'Destination' would be the folder on your Hard-drive.

I've moved the post regarding using the 'Universal Puppy Installer' here, https://www.forum.puppylinux.com/viewto ... 591#p87591

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Re: Manual Frugal Install with some Rox Tips --Change Major Distros

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Each Puppy only needs its own folder. But AFAIK, All Major distros require an entire partition. Worse, each insists on creating your computer's primary boot-manager and AFAIK none of the boot-manager they write will automatically recognize your Puppys as operating systems to be offered when you turn on your computer.

Having a hard-drive with several Terabyte capacity, I created one partition to hold "Major Distros"; to explore them and see if any offer something Puppys lack. FYI, I haven't found anything. By selecting their 'Custom Install' option, they can be installed without wiping out either my Puppys or the Windows 7 (or 10) operating system which came with the computer. But, as aforesaid, such installs don't recognize any of my Puppys as an operating system to be offered when I turn on the computer.
My computer is configured to give boot-priority to USB-Keys.
Enter grub2config:
After installing the 'new major distro' to a hard-drive, I boot into a recent Puppy on a USB-Key, open grub2config and select sda as the location for its grub2 to be written. It has never had a problem creating a boot-system whose grub.cfg offers to boot into Windows, the new Major Distro and every Puppy.

I'll leave it to the experts to explain how grub2config accomplishes that and provide any necessary caution.

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It's not from the running Puppy, it's from an ISO file.
This is still too complicated for me. So tell me if I can install Puppy in the following way (very consice):
⚬ Insert Flash-Card → open GParted → Device > Create Partition Table > msdos > new Partition 150Mb fat32; boot flag > the rest ext4 → create folder on the ext4 “Puppy_Name”
⚬ Menu>Setup>Puppy Installer (on some puppys named Universal Installer) > "Frugalpup - Install/manage Installs":
Then to click first on the Boot? And install it on the fat32 partition?
Then to click on the Puppy button, and to choose the ISO file (F96)?
And that's it?

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