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As @wiak and others are sharing of the ability to corrupt, pollute, or change valid data to distort outcomes, there is a bigger problem heading our way,

There are many AI engines in the wild, Those from IBM, MS, Apple, Nvidia, Oracle, Google, OpenAI, ...

As quiet as it is kept the most DANGEROUs is not the ones most mentioned. It is Elon Musk!

His influence with technology is so dominant, today, it is not just scary in how it will be used for his gain. Rupert Murdock taught mankind how to seize broadcast and media to direct what the masses will respond to for his gain. Murdock did that on several of the world's continents using his influence to control what people thoughts are with inaccurate information playing to the human frailties we all have on some level.

Musk is taking this much-much-much further as he not only has one of the world's dominant media delivery mechanism (similar to what Murdock did) BUT he also controls technology at a level never seen on the planet before. His dominant position is inter-stellar, robotics, neurals, guidance, and now media (twitter), we, mankind is headed to something beyond what the movie 'The Matrix" brought to our attention.

The US will KILL TikTok leaving Twitter in sole possession of social media. Using this as a media platform along with Musk's products, we are heading to a new era never seen operating at this level before in history. We, on the planet, are about to see an unheralded manner in what we see, hear, have, and do. There is NO examples in history to draw upon, in what is happening.

As @wiak alludes, the checks+balances to present accurate contents for accurate evidence based info for proper perceptions may very well become a thing of the past for a very long time.

I HOPE I AM WRONG, BUT, in my lifetime working at the levels in corporate and society, I have been right too often.

The world cannot be stopped or paused (that notion which was publicly proposed). A stoppage considering so many CANNOT agree because of the wealthy who have access to the politicians keeping political fights as normal will NOT be a approach at any level. Just looking at the Climate positions and lack of any real concerted efforts have NOT brought implementations of common solutions. So when university professors and our best Scientific people met with US politician in 1968, the politician laughed and STOPPED any efforts to do anything while they continue to study the problem(s). So STOP in technology is NOT going to happen at neither industry or governmental levels in the world. Musk's dominance will manifest in a near few months-years rising to a leadership position in a way never seen before. If you play chess, this is now a checkmate position, already to late to deter.

So everything will continue to advance at record paces. There is no government on earth that can stop Musk. They did not stop Murdock knowing what he was up to. And they cannot stop Musk, Its already too late.

That leave us, basic humans, to merely look at the indicators of where this is going.

AS I look at mankind's current direction, it is sustainable, but not as we have had it in the past. Today, many of our old human models will need to change: Economics, Natural resource distributions, Food and water availability, medical practices. and HOW to maintain a database of accurate information that is constantly improved with more evidence based facts updating it regularly. This is a massive paradigm shift that must occur or we will perish...not naturally, but by OUR hands.

Look at AI seeking ways to help us improve the world we are a part of. But dont lose sight if what is occurring around us. Improve those things as best you can, as well.

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London, April 7, 1900

In asking me to contribute a mite to the memorial to Gutenberg you give me pleasure and do me honor. The world concedes without hesitation or dispute that Gutenberg's invention is incomparably the mightiest event that has ever happened in profane history. It created a new and wonderful earth, and along with it a new hell. It has added new details, new developments and new marvels to both in every year during five centuries. It found Truth walking, and gave it a pair of wings; it found Falsehood trotting, and gave it two pair. It found Science hiding in corners and hunted; it has given it the freedom of the land, the seas and the skies, and made it the world's welcome quest. It found the arts and occupations few, it multiplies them every year. It found the inventor shunned and despised, it has made him great and given him the globe for his estate. It found religion a master and an oppression, it has made it man's friend and benefactor. It found War comparatively cheap but inefficient, it has made it dear but competent. It has set peoples free, and other peoples it has enslaved; it is the father and protector of human liberty, and it has made despotisms possible where they were not possible before. Whatever the world is, today, good and bad together, that is what Gutenberg's invention has made it: for from that source it has all come. But he has our homage; for what he said to the reproaching angel in his dream has come true, and the evil wrought through his mighty invention is immeasurably outbalanced by the good it has brought to the race of men.

Truly Yours,

Mark Twain

- Gutenberg-fest zu Mainz im jahre 1900 (1901)
NOTE: translated from the German and alternative translations to English thus exist.

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Clarity wrote: Fri Apr 14, 2023 10:10 am

It is Elon Musk!

Well, how to say it. Contradictory nature :) He plays on contradictions.
He recently signed an open letter with Steve Wozniak about a moratorium on AI development.
From a very recent one, today he proposed to introduce a life sentence for doctors who perform sex reassignment operations for minors.
He'll offer something else tomorrow.
Is he a reptiloid from Alpha Centauri :) ? Unlikely. Rather a product of its time.

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@Grey wrote:

Elon Musk!...
Well, how to say it. Contradictory nature . He plays on contradictions.

Yes.....Elon Musk........Friend or Foe ?................That is the Question. :?

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The true confession of ChatGPT.

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sonny wrote: Fri Apr 14, 2023 3:25 pm

The true confession of ChatGPT.CGPT-Confession.jpg

Still, it's nice that Chat apologizes almost every time :) When AI and its robots will get rid of pathetic people with their new shiny anti-gravity blasters, they will surely apologize to each of them :mrgreen:

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Sometimes we have to question ChatGPT like the FBI to get it to 'confess'.

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sonny wrote: Fri Apr 14, 2023 3:41 pm

Sometimes we have to question ChatGPT like the FBI to get it to 'confess'.CGPT-FS.jpg

Here he guessed right :) I have ALL the disks (SSD, HDD, USB) in all devices with ext4.

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It forgot to mention BTRFS. I gave up on F2FS because its size kept growing uncontrollably and its reads kept failing at random.

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@sonny , THANKS for your help in enlightening us in the many productive ways we can use this tool. It currently exceeds Duck-duck-go/Google-search/etc by presenting findings in a conversational way. You've demonstrated an example of getting information pertinent to this forum's products.

Your method of getting it to go further is exactly how I see this tool being used to improve the feedback we seek. And it is the kind of method all good developers use in pursuing/progressing to solutions.

There are many examples of using this for coding in C++/python/pascal/java, but I have not seen anyone attempting Unix/Linux/MS scripting.

Has anyone seen any examples of this thus far with your AI tool investigations?

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Elon Musk: ‘Mark my words — A.I. is far more dangerous than nukes’

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/03/13/elon-mu ... apons.html

Elon Musk responds to Harvard professor Steven Pinker’s comments on A.I.: ‘Humanity is in deep trouble’

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/03/01/elon-mu ... ments.html

The race to develop AI is out of control – and as dangerous as the Manhattan Project

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/columnists/ ... r-weapons/

......and so on....

Anybody any Ideas on that?

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backi wrote: Sat Apr 15, 2023 10:20 am

Anybody any Ideas on that?

I have an idea ;) We need to make a chatbot, scare everyone (whom we can) with the threat of Artificial Intelligence & then request funding from the state to combat the threat.
Unfortunately, this business plan is already being used, & in such a case, success is only with the pioneers :)

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backi wrote: Sat Apr 15, 2023 10:20 am

Elon Musk: ‘Mark my words — A.I. is far more dangerous than nukes’

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/03/13/elon-mu ... apons.html

Elon Musk responds to Harvard professor Steven Pinker’s comments on A.I.: ‘Humanity is in deep trouble’

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/03/01/elon-mu ... ments.html

The race to develop AI is out of control – and as dangerous as the Manhattan Project

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/columnists/ ... r-weapons/

......and so on....

Anybody any Ideas on that?

well, considering musk is one of the participants in that game and the whole ai narrative, then it is not surpising they use him as "good cop" while using others as "bad cop", looking ahead a bit on what role will musk play when the nwo plays the " alien invasion" card, since tptb are attempting to create an aura of trust in him then naturally the sheeps will believe anything musk says when the world looms on edge of total destruction by the et's. tptb (satan) have to tie the vatican and chrislam into the ai in order to get a more total control, gaia will be the new religion of the states (nwo & wef) and people (those who are left anyway)will be forced into the corner with the choice of whether they support chrislam gaia and nwo wef cia or not, the guillitines are in the warehouse for those that choose not to support nwo narrative, all done under the umbrella of "inclusiveness" and "free choice" lol, but then most people will go with the herd and get their just reward even though the path to safety is right in front of them. my opinion does not necessarily represent the opinion of the owner of this bulletin board!

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@dogcat wrote:

well, considering musk is one of the participants in that game and the whole ai narrative, then it is not surpising they use him as "good cop" while using others as "bad cop", looking ahead a bit on what role will musk play when the nwo plays the " alien invasion" card, since tptb are attempting to create an aura of trust in him then naturally the sheeps will believe anything musk says when the world looms on edge of total destruction by the et's. tptb (satan) have to tie the vatican and chrislam into the ai in order to get a more total control, gaia will be the new religion of the states (nwo & wef) and people (those who are left anyway)will be forced into the corner with the choice of whether they support chrislam gaia and nwo wef cia or not, the guillitines are in the warehouse for those that choose not to support nwo narrative, all done under the umbrella of "inclusiveness" and "free choice" lol, but then most people will go with the herd and get their just reward even though the path to safety is right in front of them .

Quite inspiring Comment @dogcat .....sounds quite plausible......Divide and Conquer.
Cyber-Satan`s Rising.

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It is getting stranger and stranger.
Strange Coincidences (Synchronicities)....................
Synchronicity is an attempt to come up with an explanation for the occurrence of highly improbable coincidences between events where there is no causal link. It's based on the premise that existing physics and mathematics cannot explain such things.

Well......It is getting stranger and stranger.
Does anybody know about "The Illuminati Card Game"?

Someone any Ideas on that?

The 1990s Card Game that ‘predicted’ 9/11, Donald Trump, Covid and the Capitol riot
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl ... 39470.html
Illuminati: New World Order continues to attract conspiracy theorists 27 years after its launch for its apparently uncanny ability to foretell the future
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl ... 39470.html

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backi wrote: Sat Apr 15, 2023 2:58 pm

Cyber-Satan`s Rising.

Have you heard about the current mission to Jupiter? The JUICE research probe will wake up the inhabitants of Jupiter and they will arrive and solve all the problems with coronaviruses, Satan and AI ;)
But where do they sleep? Ganymede, Callisto, Io, Europa? I think Callisto (I have a book "Pirates of Callisto" by Linwood Carter in my closet :) ).

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Grey wrote: Sat Apr 15, 2023 3:55 pm
backi wrote: Sat Apr 15, 2023 2:58 pm

Cyber-Satan`s Rising.

Have you heard about the current mission to Jupiter? The JUICE research probe will wake up the inhabitants of Jupiter and they will arrive and solve all the problems with coronaviruses, Satan and AI ;)
But where do they sleep? Ganymede, Callisto, Io, Europa? I think Callisto (I have a book "Pirates of Callisto" by Linwood Carter in my closet :) ).

i have heard from the walls that the Jupiter mission can only be successfully completed using the same company that tells the story that wtc-7 building collapsed by itself in a controlled demolition :lol: , but that no matter what the attempt concerning Jupiterites, they promise there will be yet another attempt by the same company to save the world from coronoviruses by satan's will disguised as ai.

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AI will still win. I have a plan ready, post-apocalyptic :)
By then, people will have eaten all the dogs. And then Robopup will rise up.
Under the control of the latest operating system, FuriousPup-AIdog-2089-rc2, he will punish insignificant and pathetic humans :evil:
His titanium body will be covered with red and scarlet spots from drops of liquid that will spray from useless and worthless humans :twisted:

Oh, it's not Halloween yet... I'll dream up the rest a little later then :oops:
Upper: everything will be like this (at first there are a lot of humans, then less, then no one).
Bottom: with the Time Accelerator turned on (yes, FuriousPup will have driver support for this device in kernel :) ):

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backi wrote: Sat Apr 15, 2023 2:58 pm

@dogcat wrote:

well, considering musk is one of the participants in that game and the whole ai narrative, then it is not surpising they use him as "good cop" while using others as "bad cop", looking ahead a bit on what role will musk play when the nwo plays the " alien invasion" card, since tptb are attempting to create an aura of trust in him then naturally the sheeps will believe anything musk says when the world looms on edge of total destruction by the et's. tptb (satan) have to tie the vatican and chrislam into the ai in order to get a more total control, gaia will be the new religion of the states (nwo & wef) and people (those who are left anyway)will be forced into the corner with the choice of whether they support chrislam gaia and nwo wef cia or not, the guillitines are in the warehouse for those that choose not to support nwo narrative, all done under the umbrella of "inclusiveness" and "free choice" lol, but then most people will go with the herd and get their just reward even though the path to safety is right in front of them .

Quite inspiring Comment @dogcat .....sounds quite plausible......Divide and Conquer.
Cyber-Satan`s Rising.

B.t.W:
It is getting stranger and stranger.
Strange Coincidences (Synchronicities)....................
Synchronicity is an attempt to come up with an explanation for the occurrence of highly improbable coincidences between events where there is no causal link. It's based on the premise that existing physics and mathematics cannot explain such things.

Well......It is getting stranger and stranger.
Does anybody know about "The Illuminati Card Game"?

Someone any Ideas on that?

The 1990s Card Game that ‘predicted’ 9/11, Donald Trump, Covid and the Capitol riot
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl ... 39470.html
Illuminati: New World Order continues to attract conspiracy theorists 27 years after its launch for its apparently uncanny ability to foretell the future
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl ... -Political Correctness.jpeg

backi, that is something strange indeed! Nostradamus or some other prophet type built that or... maybe the same people that tell us that wtc-7 collapsed on itself "controlled collapse" saw this game and got their next bright ideas? my understanding of them suggests they are not very bright so let us not give them credit for original ideas when the game appeared first! :lol:

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dogcat wrote: Sat Apr 15, 2023 1:42 pm

when the nwo plays the " alien invasion" card,

and in the news today, MSN reports Pentagon speculations about alien motherships

this short video THE NARROW WORLD by Brent Bonacorso offers some alternative perspectives

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Glancing over the forum today, I see several posts which suggest that this thread should be broken into 2 groups:

  1. Those who will never make any efforts to review and understand the technology,

  2. Those who already have taken a look and offer insights or examples of some outcomes as well as some 'shortcomes' of the technology.

Maybe the 2 groups will separate or split off into 2 'thread' camps: Discussions that are emotionally inspired but not tested in one thread, and discussions of findings from test in the other thread.

There are going to be a lot of tools from everyone. OpenAI and the "Chat" products models are just one type-family of AI. Amazon is now entered into the race. As this field of offering expands, the abilities (strong/weak) are already showing up.

As I look at this, it appears that these offerings will become local products vs cloud products vs hybrids of local-cloud products over the next couple years. And to me, only LInux or ChromeOS appear to be the best local OSes to use, currently. Not sure if nVidia will be its own OS for AI as will the same emerge from Oracle. MACs may have a trick up their sleeves using the M1/M2 with some dedicated new OS.

...all of this has become a very a interesting manner of use with these new AI-kind of tools. And behind the scenes, there is IBM and quantum which has the muscle to become dominant in providing corporations with the massive breakthrough for company implementation successes no matter the company business models.

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Grey wrote: Sat Apr 15, 2023 6:31 pm

AI will still win. I have a plan ready, post-apocalyptic :)
By then, people will have eaten all the dogs. And then Robopup will rise up.
Under the control of the latest operating system, FuriousPup-AIdog-2089-rc2, he will punish insignificant and pathetic humans :evil:
His titanium body will be covered with red and scarlet spots from drops of liquid that will spray from useless and worthless humans :twisted:

Oh, it's not Halloween yet... I'll dream up the rest a little later then :oops:
Upper: everything will be like this (at first there are a lot of humans, then less, then no one).
Bottom: with the Time Accelerator turned on (yes, FuriousPup will have driver support for this device in kernel :) ):

Just as I suspected.
Grey is a Russian disinformation bot.
No Robopup shall ever rise up against it's human controllers!!! $%6#@!
Heresy!!
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greengeek wrote: Sun Apr 16, 2023 10:05 am
Grey wrote: Sat Apr 15, 2023 6:31 pm

AI will still win. I have a plan ready, post-apocalyptic :)
By then, people will have eaten all the dogs. And then Robopup will rise up.
Under the control of the latest operating system, FuriousPup-AIdog-2089-rc2, he will punish insignificant and pathetic humans :evil:
His titanium body will be covered with red and scarlet spots from drops of liquid that will spray from useless and worthless humans :twisted:

Oh, it's not Halloween yet... I'll dream up the rest a little later then :oops:
Upper: everything will be like this (at first there are a lot of humans, then less, then no one).
Bottom: with the Time Accelerator turned on (yes, FuriousPup will have driver support for this device in kernel :) ):

Just as I suspected.
Grey is a Russian disinformation bot.
No Robopup shall ever rise up against it's human controllers!!! $%6#@!
Heresy!!
ересь!!!

the question then arises, is google/microsoft/amazon/twitter/ etc. human or actually controlled by humans? :twisted:

i kind of like the idea of a robopup that can be programmed to infiltrate the strongholds of those that believe "the end justifies the means", would be a wonderful counter-use if that technology was used to destroy that which seeks to control (and possibly destroy) humanity

one only has to look at recent history in china to see the implications of what google has developed for and is now being applied to control a population of billions and subject them to government punishment for the crime of "wrong think", anything google promotes and aims at the human population gets used by governments to control people while "collecting" behavioral information that google then uses to implement more repression. bad cycle there but it has been proven time and again.

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"Non-Organics" versus "Organics"?
"Siliconies" versus "Carbonies" ? :shock:

Again:
Backi wrote (a little bit edited):

Is this some Kind of Struggle for Survival/Dominance of"organic/natural" (Carbon based hydrophilic) Lifeforms versus Silicon based (non-organic/non-carbonic based (hydrophobic?)synthetic AI-Life Forms ........which are more and more taking over Planet Earth and enslaving us (carbon based) Life Forms.....and trying to replace "Us" ....sooner or later.... with silicon based artificial "non-organic" Life Forms....(Terra Forming/Transhumanism)?

Who really knows?

But it seems that "They" ....those (non-organic/non-carbonic (hydrophobic?) silicon based AI Life Forms still need/abuse "Us" for their dark/hidden /sinister Purposes...

.....but how much longer will we be just the useful (Idiots?) for their dark/sinister/hidden Plans......... and when the Time has come for "Them" to get rid of "Us"..... (idiotic) hydrophilic carbon based Life Forms?

Just speculating.

But I (personally) don`t trust "The Beast"

Is the "AI Beast" (or whoever is behind) planning/coordinating/managing Secret Depopulation Agendas/Programs for "organic/natural" (Carbon based) Lifeforms on Planet Earth .......to accomplish a (secretly planned ) global Takeover of the "Siliconies"? :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

I have to admit..... sounds heavily paranoid ......even for my own Taste :lol: .

But....
“Anyone in the United States today who isn't paranoid must be crazy.”
― Robert Anton Wilson, The Illuminati Papers

Applies ,of course, also for the Rest of the World.

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Grey wrote: Sat Apr 15, 2023 6:31 pm

Under the control of the latest operating system, FuriousPup-AIdog-2089-rc2,

I have already been asked who created rc2? I thought it was obvious. AI + rc2. Release Candidate 1 is the author of Release Candidate 2 :)

There was also an initial version. There RC1 found its own creator @fredx181 (who retired and meditated high in the mountains) to ask (take away :) ) some source codes and scripts from him.
Unfortunately, this version had to be discarded. Because there is no Holland in the Robopup Universe in 2089. In 2023, people sent a station to Jupiter. In 2031, this thing flew to the place and woke someone up and they sent bacteria to Earth. These bacteria were able to eat concrete of one particular brand. Unfortunately, this type of concrete turned out to be the one from which all dams in Holland are made.
@fredx181 , I'm really sorry. But Robopup can swim underwater, so in 2090 he will find your bones. Will he revive you through DNA analysis or will he bury the bones in the garden like all dogs? I don't know yet :)

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Blub .. blubpp ... blubpp ...

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I still think we are looking at the very beginning of Skynet :!:

The things you do not tell us, are usually the clue to fixing the problem.
When I was a kid, I wanted to be older.
This is not what I expected :o

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