6.1.14 64bit knl - superseded (download still available)

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6.1.14 64bit knl - superseded (download still available)

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Superseded.

If you still want to try it (with old puppies only), it is in Kernel archive:
https://archive.org/download/Puppy_Linux_Huge-Kernels

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Re: 6.1.14 64bit old-style kernel - aufs & overlayfs

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@Dry Falls - wow! another trap for the unwary. Is kernel 5.15 (LTS & hence more secure due to updates) no use to you? It's EOL has been extended to Oct 2026 (was originally this year).

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Re: 6.1.14 64bit old-style kernel - aufs & overlayfs

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Initrd.gz is old. Can I use this kernel?

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Re: 6.1.14 64bit old-style kernel - aufs & overlayfs

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@debianfan - should be OK for Puppies from about 2017-2022 (will default to aufs). If in doubt, test with a plain usb frugal install first.

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Re: 6.1.14 64bit old-style kernel - aufs & overlayfs

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@Dry Falls - I'll pm you my last good kernel-kit - used to make this 6.1.14 & other aufs/overlayfs kernels. My chromebook kernels are over a month behind - stops them being caught out - might be a good mitigation for late aufs patches.

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Re: 6.1.14 64bit old-style kernel - aufs & overlayfs

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Dry Falls wrote: Sun Mar 05, 2023 7:26 am

It seems LTS is meaningless for aufs-patched kernels. I built 5.15.27 with your kernel kit.

We still have bi-weekly 4.19.x, 5.4.x, 5.10.x and 5.15.x builds at https://github.com/puppylinux-woof-CE/w ... el-kit.yml, with the latest longterm releases. Although they still build fine, nobody is actively maintaining aufs for 4.19.x and 5.4.x. Nothing guarantees that aufs is still stable and safe to use (= no data loss or kernel panics) with all the kernel changes since aufs was declared EOL for these branches. I no longer use these kernels in my builds because they're not true LTS kernels, as you say - they have big changes from EOL patches.

Dry Falls wrote: Sun Mar 05, 2023 7:26 am

Consider wayland. You can't even log in as root!

(Off-topic comment: dpup already has usable development builds with dwl and labwc)

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Re: 6.1.14 64bit old-style kernel - aufs & overlayfs

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Indeed @dimkr. Just attempted my quarterly kernel update today for bionicpup64, from your biweekly kernel-kit at github, and the recent build (4.19.275) no longer boots (fails to create an empty aufs stack). 4.19.264 works fine.

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Re: 6.1.14 64bit old-style kernel - aufs & overlayfs

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Above are reasons I personally use overlayfs only. However, as there is little interest in it in the community, & I was encouraged to make a quarterly aufs/overlayfs kernel, I produced the original post's offering.

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Re: 6.1.14 64bit old-style kernel - aufs & overlayfs

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ozsouth wrote: Mon Mar 06, 2023 12:35 am

there is little interest in it in the community

One day, when aufs (or GTK+ 2, or X.Org, or other legacy stuff used by most Puppy releases) is no longer an option, Puppy as we know it will die and the winner in this struggle for existence will be a Puppy that defaults to overlay.

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Re: 6.1.14 64bit old-style kernel - aufs & overlayfs

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dimkr wrote: Mon Mar 06, 2023 7:38 am
ozsouth wrote: Mon Mar 06, 2023 12:35 am

there is little interest in it in the community

One day, when aufs (or GTK+ 2, or X.Org, or other legacy stuff used by most Puppy releases) is no longer an option, Puppy as we know it will die and the winner in this struggle for existence will be a Puppy that defaults to overlay.

Not arguing. Lots has changed since 2005 and we're still here. At this point I'm roughly 50/50, overlay vs AUFS, and its quite nice to have one good LTS kernel that supports both and can be used in all my pups. Toggling is simple via a kernel parameter and the AUFS overhead in the kernel isn't bad so to me it makes sense to support both for now.

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Re: 6.1.14 64bit old-style kernel - aufs & overlayfs

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I also build kernels that have both overlayfs built in and are patched with AUFS so both mechanisms are available. Sure eventually AUFS will fade out because SFS-load-on-the-fly is no longer really needed and has been replaced by portable applications.

I sometimes use Puppy Linux huge kernels with specialized Kennel Linux builds so the overlayfs makes that possible. Is there a real need to do this? No there is not....but it seems pretty cool to do.

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Re: 6.1.14 64bit old-style kernel - aufs & overlayfs

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@ozsouth

Is it possible that you can upload the file/s to Mediafire?

I am unable to view Archive.org as my browser/ISP does not allow me to do so.

If not, you might want to edit your first post and remove the last line re: Mediafire

Thanks in advance!

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Re: 6.1.14 64bit old-style kernel - aufs & overlayfs

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@Jasper - I can - which of the 5 files do you particularly want? The mediafire reference is there because I initially upload to mediafire & wait a couple of days, a) until Ally copies to archive.org & b) to gauge the level of interest in that time. Then I remove them & update links in first post.

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Re: 6.1.14 64bit old-style kernel - aufs & overlayfs

Post by ally »

@Jasper

sorry to hear you cannot access the archive

feel free to shout me with file requests and I'll send them to gdrive or mega if it helps

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Re: 6.1.14 64bit old-style kernel - aufs & overlayfs

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@ozsouth && @ally

It's been a long time since I changed this. So, I had to look again at the files that I downloaded previously.

I believe the only file I need is:

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https://archive.org/download/Puppy_Linux_Huge-Kernels/huge-6.1.14-ubun64oz-ao.tar.bz2

Many thanks to both of you :thumbup:

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@Jasper

pm sent

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Re: 6.1.14 64bit old-style kernel - aufs & overlayfs

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@ally Many thanks :thumbup2:

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