Blueman Bluetooth not working

[Tahrbaby]

Bluetooth does little when clicked on from menu.In terminal 'Command not found'.
Blueman-adaptors is found in usr/share/applications but not in menu and also does nothing when clicked.

Quite important in this day and age.

[rockedge]

@Tahrbaby Oh no...looks like we'll need to pull F96 from the shelf for now. The Bluetooth features were working but I do not have any really intense way of testing out the Bluetooth connectivity. This failure will be looked into.

[Tahrbaby]

@Tahrbaby Oh no...looks like we'll need to pull F96 from the shelf for now. The Bluetooth features were working but I do not have any really intense way of testing out the Bluetooth connectivity. This failure will be looked into.

@rockedge

Always possible it could just be down to my PC?
Its an Acer Aspire X Desktop with onboard Bluetooth.

[wizard]

@Tahrbaby
@radky
@rockedge

Desktop, Intel 4 core, 4gb ram, using cheap Chinese USB Bluetooth v2.0 adapter.(working on MS W10)
-Menu>System>Bluetooth Manager
Opens bluetooth and will pair & connect with bluetooth speaker and play, only finds one of my phones and will not do file transfers.
Getting bluetooth notifications across the top of the screen

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With that said, I've always found bluetooth to be a hassle and I always have trouble finding which device will work with which device. Think maybe is related to hardware, BT version and drivers no matter if it is MS Windows, LInux, or Android.

Thanks
wizard

[Tahrbaby]

I should have added that using the same PC and peripherals,Bluetooth works in Vanilla dpup..
Any clues there?

[Tahrbaby]

Replaced with latest fixed ISO,plus new save-file and still no working Bluetooth?
I presume its a missing driver issue?

[wizard]

@radky
@rockedge
@Tahrbaby

Based on Tahrbaby's statement that bluetooth is working on VanillaDpup, I loaded v9.3.6 on my same hardware.
Sure enough it finds, pairs, and connects to my devices.
BT speaker = OK, plays
Samsung S5 phone = OK, file transfers both directions = OK

Latest version of F96-CE fails on file transfers

Thanks
wizard

[rockedge]

@wizard Vanilla Dpup was nominated to be the next official Puppy, but that was declined by it's creator it seems.

There is a revision F96-CE being worked on to address and fix some more of the problems, like Bluetooth.

I have not tried to connect an Android device yet.

[wizard]

@rockedge

Vanilla Dpup was nominated to be the next official Puppy, but that was declined by it's creator it seems.

Yes, I followed the tread and saw that dimkr did not consider it qualified as an official Puppy. In my brief tryout, it lacks a lot of the programs, usability and ease of use that is in F96. It's good work, but pretty stripped down at this point.

Looking for differences between the BT functions here's what I've found:
F96 = Blueman v2.1.2
VDP = Blueman v2.1.4

Attached are the contents of the Blueman device info files. Hope it might offer clues.

f96ce-bt.txt

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vdpup-bt.txt

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Thanks
wizard

[Tahrbaby]

@radky
@rockedge
@Tahrbaby

Based on Tahrbaby's statement that bluetooth is working on VanillaDpup, I loaded v9.3.6 on my same hardware.
Sure enough it finds, pairs, and connects to my devices.
BT speaker = OK, plays
Samsung S5 phone = OK, file transfers both directions = OK

Latest version of F96-CE fails on file transfers

Thanks
wizard

@wizard

Thank you for confirming this.

[rockedge]

It would be worth it to attempt a bump up in version to Blueman v2.1.4 and see if it can smooth out and become more reliable.

[wizard]

@rockedge

Downloaded a 2.1.4 deb package and installed it, file transfer still fails. Something still missing.

Thanks
wizard

[rockedge]

maybe some differences in the kernel construction?

[radky]

I think F96 uses blueman_2.1.2-1 from the ubuntu-focal-universe repository, but the package is modified by Woof-CE.

Specifically, /usr/bin/blueman-applet and /usr/bin/blueman-manager are modified to allow blueman to run as spot in Puppy. An unmodified upgrade of blueman would not conform to the Puppy configuration.

Maybe dimkr could help us resolve the Bluetooth issue in F96.

[dimkr]

I'll be able to take a look on Sunday.

[radky]

I'll be able to take a look on Sunday.

Thank you dimkr !

[dimkr]

@radky Try this:

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@wizard If you confirm that fixing the service file followed by reboot fixes file transfer using Blueman, I can integrate this fix into woof-CE.

[radky]

@radky Try this:

cat /usr/share/dbus-1/services/org.bluez.obex.service

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[D-BUS Service]
Name=org.bluez.obex
Exec=/usr/lib/bluetooth/obexd
SystemdService=dbus-org.bluez.obex.service

@wizard If you confirm that fixing the service file followed by reboot fixes file transfer using Blueman, I can integrate this fix into woof-CE.

@dimkr

Thanks for the fix of /usr/share/dbus-1/services/org.bluez.obex.service.

I don't use bluetooth devices, so can't effectively test but I'm sure @Tahrbaby, @wizard and other bluetooth users will test and report soon.

Thanks again !

[wizard]

@dimkr
@radky
@Tahrbaby

Ran the command, but my output came back a little different.

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File transfer=no
Rebooted,
File transfer=no

Thanks
wizard

[radky]

Ran the command, but my output came back a little different.

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[D-BUS Service]
Name=org.bluez.obex
Exec=@libexecdiir@/obexd
SystemdService=dbus-org.bluez.obex.service

File transfer=no
Rebooted,
File transfer=no

Thanks
wizard

@wizard

@dimkr changed the third line.

Try editing the third line in /usr/share/dbus-1/services/org.bluez.obex.service as follows, then reboot.

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[D-BUS Service]
Name=org.bluez.obex
Exec=/usr/lib/bluetooth/obexd
SystemdService=dbus-org.bluez.obex.service

Thanks

[wizard]

@radky

The cat line is executed, the rest are output from that line.

Thanks
wizard

[Tahrbaby]

Ran the command, but my output came back a little different.

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[D-BUS Service]
Name=org.bluez.obex
Exec=@libexecdiir@/obexd
SystemdService=dbus-org.bluez.obex.service

File transfer=no
Rebooted,
File transfer=no

Thanks
wizard

@wizard

@dimkr changed the third line.

Try editing the third line in /usr/share/dbus-1/services/org.bluez.obex.service as follows, then reboot.

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[D-BUS Service]
Name=org.bluez.obex
Exec=/usr/lib/bluetooth/obexd
SystemdService=dbus-org.bluez.obex.service

Thanks

@wizard
@radky
@dimkr

Tried all of the above methods but still Bluetooth won't start for me.

[dimkr]

Tried all of the above methods but still Bluetooth won't start for me.

Have you modified /usr/share/dbus-1/services/org.bluez.obex.service? Did you reboot after the modification?

EDIT: try to run blueman-applet and blueman-manager in the terminal - what does it say? Also, you can try to run bluetoothctl, then type devices to see if any Bluetooth devices are available.

[wizard]

@dimkr
@radky
@Tahrbaby

OK, lack of understanding by me. Dimkr's post was to say:

Edit the file:
/usr/share/dbus-1/services/org.bluez.obex.service
To read:

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[D-BUS Service]
Name=org.bluez.obex
Exec=/usr/lib/bluetooth/obexd
SystemdService=dbus-org.bluez.obex.service

-reboot

When I did this it works. File transfer=OK

Thanks
wizard

[dimkr]

Thanks @wizard, I will test https://github.com/puppylinux-woof-CE/woof-CE/pull/3890 soon, then merge it to ensure this problem doesn't return.

[radky]

@dimkr

I don't have bluetooth devices to actually test functionality, file transfer, etc.

However, the following output on F96-CE may be helpful.

First, I modified /usr/share/dbus-1/services/org.bluez.obex.service as follows, then rebooted:

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[D-BUS Service]
Name=org.bluez.obex
Exec=/usr/lib/bluetooth/obexd
SystemdService=dbus-org.bluez.obex.service

Second, in a terminal:

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# blueman-applet
blueman-applet version 2.1.2 starting
blueman-applet 10.11.55 WARNING  PluginManager:147 __load_plugin: Not loading DhcpClient because its conflict has higher priority
blueman-tray version 2.1.2 starting
blueman-tray version 2.1.2 starting
There is an instance already running
blueman-applet 10.11.57 WARNING  PluginManager:147 __load_plugin: Not loading PPPSupport because its conflict has higher priority
blueman-applet 10.11.57 WARNING  TransferService:189 _make_share_path: Failed to get Download dir from XDG

(blueman-tray:13135): Gdk-CRITICAL **: 10:11:58.717: gdk_window_thaw_toplevel_updates: assertion 'window->update_and_descendants_freeze_count > 0' failed

Third, in a terminal:

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# blueman-manager
blueman-manager version 2.1.2 starting
Failed to enable bluetooth

EDIT: one additional terminal command

Fourth, in a terminal:

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#bluetoothctl
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/blueman/main/indicators/GtkStatusIcon.py", line 19, in <lambda>
    gtk_item.connect('activate', lambda _, idx=index: activate(idx))
  File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/blueman/main/Tray.py", line 37, in _activate_menu_item
    return AppletService().ActivateMenuItem('(ai)', indexes)
  File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/gi/overrides/Gio.py", line 351, in __call__
    result = self.dbus_proxy.call_sync(self.method_name, arg_variant,
gi.repository.GLib.Error: g-io-error-quark: Timeout was reached (24)

[wizard]

@dimkr
@radky
@Tahrbaby

The Blueman program does have strange behavior that is not user friendly, I will work up a "howto" for review.

Thanks
wizard

[dimkr]

@dimkr
I don't have bluetooth devices to actually test functionality, file transfer, etc.

Do you have a Bluetooth adapter that doesn't see any devices or don't have Bluetooth at all?

[radky]

@dimkr
I don't have bluetooth devices to actually test functionality, file transfer, etc.

Do you have a Bluetooth adapter that doesn't see any devices or don't have Bluetooth at all?

I have an old (? broken) Bluetooth portable speaker but currently no Bluetooth adapter for my vintage 2010 laptop.

Note: I added results for one additional terminal command (bluetoothctl) in the above post.

[rockedge]

The one computer I have with Bluetooth is 32 bit only........