S15Pup - Discussion

[8Geee]

I tried the +1 version on my Atom N270 2Gb. The CD loaded and ran properly altho with painfully slow touchpad defaults. Of course I can't tweak the OS as a one-burn session. I could go multi-burn to fix what I want.

However, when using Puppy installer (for non-PAE, which the N270 is) the bootup broke, generally with errors pointing to "the kernel must have a path". Chainloader, and kernel options failed. Grub is presumed to be 046 or 046a. Is it possible that some files DID NOT transfer using burniso2cd? The USB stick is a Sandisk 8Gb USB2.0. These have never been a problem booting puppy for several years. Is the distro PAE ONLY?

Thanks and regards
8Geee

PS: BTW... this might be good for ARM MPU's (esp RK3599 64-bit for Orange Pi 4 LTS)

[peebee]

Hi @8Geee

If you can run from CD you should be able to run from USB as well......... i.e. the components must be correct so its the method used to prepare the usb that is suspect.........

I would personally do a manual frugal install to the USB after formatting it with GParted using Grub4dos as the boot loader - presumably this is a 32-bit BIOS machine?

If you're not confident to do this, and need some assistance then maybe try the FrugalPup installer.

Cheers
peebee

[Clarity]

Or, merely create a USB and where you only need to add 32bit ISO files for all future tests and use. Boot any at anytime you choose. No need to tie up disk space for frugal because the ISO file is a frugal in and of itself.

I have this on my netbook that I test from time to time. Works with every modern 32bit PUPs tested thus far.

the other thing I did today is to blow away the OS that came with the Netbook and burned the image file directly to the system disk. Then, a booted each of the 32bit forum distros directly from their ISO files using this new bootable system disk arrangement..

this is a temporary test and will be retired very soon. Reason: I have a even better idea for a easy to use setup for its ISO file booting.

[Jasper]

Hi all

Is anyone experiencing difficulties in obtaining the files from SourceForge today?

[peebee]

There was a problem, reported, should now be fixed.....

[Jasper]

@peebee

Thank you for "fixing" this

Can confirm it is working correctly now

[Tahrbaby]

Hope this is in the correct thread.

Ive just tried a USB install of S15 on my UEFI Acer Aspire XC-830 box which has onboard Wi-Fi.
Got it booting fine in the end with Grub 2 config but unable to connect to the onboard Wi-Fi.
I have to plug a USB WI-FI dongle in before it can connect up to it.
Not tried installing this Pupp to my internal SSD's as yet to test from them.
I do have other Pupps installed to the same USB stick,all of which are able to connect to the onboard WI-FI without this issue.

Any ideas please?

[Wiz57]

Hope this is in the correct thread.

Ive just tried a USB install of S15 on my UEFI Acer Aspire XC-830 box which has onboard Wi-Fi.
Got it booting fine in the end with Grub 2 config but unable to connect to the onboard Wi-Fi.
I have to plug a USB WI-FI dongle in before it can connect up to it.
Not tried installing this Pupp to my internal SSD's as yet to test from them.
I do have other Pupps installed to the same USB stick,all of which are able to connect to the onboard WI-FI without this issue.

Any ideas please?

May need to get firmware referenced in this post https://forum.puppylinux.com/viewtopic.php?t=7464
You need to run dmesg | grep firm in a terminal and note the output, then follow peebee's instructions.
Wiz

[Tahrbaby]

Hope this is in the correct thread.

Ive just tried a USB install of S15 on my UEFI Acer Aspire XC-830 box which has onboard Wi-Fi.
Got it booting fine in the end with Grub 2 config but unable to connect to the onboard Wi-Fi.
I have to plug a USB WI-FI dongle in before it can connect up to it.
Not tried installing this Pupp to my internal SSD's as yet to test from them.
I do have other Pupps installed to the same USB stick,all of which are able to connect to the onboard WI-FI without this issue.

Any ideas please?

May need to get firmware referenced in this post https://forum.puppylinux.com/viewtopic.php?t=7464
You need to run dmesg | grep firm in a terminal and note the output, then follow peebee's instructions.
Wiz

@Wiz57

Many thanks for the info' Sir.

I tried adding the extra FDRV files but it didn't seem to work.
I then downloaded the latest ISO which seems to have sorted it now

[Wiz57]

Hope this is in the correct thread.

Ive just tried a USB install of S15 on my UEFI Acer Aspire XC-830 box which has onboard Wi-Fi.
Got it booting fine in the end with Grub 2 config but unable to connect to the onboard Wi-Fi.
I have to plug a USB WI-FI dongle in before it can connect up to it.
Not tried installing this Pupp to my internal SSD's as yet to test from them.
I do have other Pupps installed to the same USB stick,all of which are able to connect to the onboard WI-FI without this issue.

Any ideas please?

May need to get firmware referenced in this post https://forum.puppylinux.com/viewtopic.php?t=7464
You need to run dmesg | grep firm in a terminal and note the output, then follow peebee's instructions.
Wiz

@Wiz57

Many thanks for the info' Sir.

I tried adding the extra FDRV files but it didn't seem to work.
I then downloaded the latest ISO which seems to have sorted it now

Great! I've also used the latest ISO on an older 4gig USB thumb drive via Unetbootin with success on my old
Compaq CQ62 laptop...everything worked upon first boot!
Wiz

[gychang]

On my S15Pup64 frugal install, I was able to download guvcview from PPM but will not launch from the terminal. There is no libportaudio.so.2. Is there a way to get working guvcview ?

[peebee]

There is no libportaudio.so.2.

https://slackware.pkgs.org/15.0/alienbo ... n.txz.html

https://slackware.uk/people/alien/sbrep ... 1alien.txz

however.....................
Requires
Name Value
jack2

so a slippery slope

This is older (1.7.1 vs 2.0.7) but maybe more suited to S15Pup:
http://distro.ibiblio.org/puppylinux/pe ... x86_64.pet

[gychang]

There is no libportaudio.so.2.

https://slackware.pkgs.org/15.0/alienbo ... n.txz.html

https://slackware.uk/people/alien/sbrep ... 1alien.txz

however.....................
Requires
Name Value
jack2

so a slippery slope

This is older (1.7.1 vs 2.0.7) but maybe more suited to S15Pup:
http://distro.ibiblio.org/puppylinux/pe ... x86_64.pet

I installed jack2 from PPM and also installed the older .pet but now I get this error...

[OscarTalks]

This is one I compiled from source in S15Pup64 some time ago.
Doing this should mean that it is "install and go" with all libraries matched and linked, making it much smaller than the total size if using PPM as well.
http://smokey01.com/OscarTalks/guvcview ... 4-s15p.pet

[gychang]

This is one I compiled from source in S15Pup64 some time ago.
Doing this should mean that it is "install and go" with all libraries matched and linked, making it much smaller than the total size if using PPM as well.
http://smokey01.com/OscarTalks/guvcview ... 4-s15p.pet

@OscarTalks works well!, thanks

[gychang]

I have frugal install into my internal SSD. Before I reboot I pick the card 2 (last one Saiyin USB) as the default card and .retrovolrc is also set correctly, but when I reboot it reverts back to card 0 (top card). Screenshot taken on reboot.

Is this a bug?, is there a work around?

[peebee]

Is this a bug?

I don't know I'm afraid (and have no way to test) ............. do any other Pups make a better job of "remembering" your soundcard selection using the same app??

[OscarTalks]

Before I reboot I pick the card 2 (last one Saiyin USB) as the default card and .retrovolrc is also set correctly, but when I reboot it reverts back to card0

This is not so easy to advise about without having your hardware in front of me, but I can offer a couple of possible pointers.
In the file /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf
The line options snd-usb-audio index=-2 appears TWICE
This is designed to prevent USB soundcards from being set as default at boot
Deleting both instances of that line may help
adding the line options snd-usb-audio index=0 might also work
Maybe also options snd-hda-intel index=1 if you have an integrated soundcard which you want to set as second soundcard
I play around with multiple soundcards quite a lot. Adding options like that means that I do not have to use the multiple sound card wizard as this determines the index numbers of the kernel modules at boot. (index=0 defines the default)
The file /proc/asound/modules should tell you the soundcard modules that are loaded for the soundcards and the index order.

[Grey]

I have frugal install into my internal SSD. Before I reboot I pick the card 2 (last one Saiyin USB) as the default card and .retrovolrc is also set correctly, but when I reboot it reverts back to card 0 (top card). Screenshot taken on reboot.

Is this a bug?, is there a work around?

I had the same problem in Fossapup. I solved it like this.

You need to edit the file that Oscar mentioned above:

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# Keep snd-usb-audio from beeing loaded as first soundcard
options snd_usb_audio index=-2
options snd_hda_intel index=-2

options snd_emu10k1 index=0
options snd_hda_intel index=1
options snd_usb_audio index=2

The names and "nicknames" (and the order in which they are going at the moment) of the cards can be found out by two commands:

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cat /proc/asound/cards

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aplay -l

I have SB Audigy2 assigned first, the second is built-in and the third is usb SB X-Fi.
I also disabled (much later than creating the config) the card built into the motherboard in UEFI (I just still have a PCI-E card). If you don't need the built-in one, disable it in BIOS/UEFI.

Things are even worse in Pulse Audio There, the USB card is always displayed first. It is easier to swap the speaker and headphone connectors than to configure them programmatically.

[Grey]

options snd_hda_intel index=1

I forgot to mention it. Note that the HDMI sound is also designated as HDA-Intel, it can be confused with the built-in card.
In addition, sometimes reinstalling or installing a more recent version of ALSA helps. In general, here it is necessary to try options.

[gychang]

@Grey my geany /proc/asound/modules command result in:

0 snd_usb_audio
1 snd_hda_intel
2 snd_usb_audio

so lines 0 and 2 are the same but the default card I want is the last line, how do I specify this??

--> aplay -l
**** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices ****
card 1: PCH [HDA Intel PCH], device 0: ALC221 Analog [ALC221 Analog]
Subdevices: 1/1
Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 1: PCH [HDA Intel PCH], device 3: HDMI 0 [HDMI 0]
Subdevices: 1/1
Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 2: Audio [Saiyin USB Audio], device 0: USB Audio [USB Audio]
Subdevices: 1/1
Subdevice #0: subdevice #0

want card 2 to be the default on boot.

[version2013]

working with S15Pup64-22.12+2-T.iso

Laptop with AMD APU
(APU=CPU+GPU)

loaded 32bit-compat-s15pup64-22.12.sfs

---------------------------------------------------
Attempting to run game, I get errors:
...snip...

"
libGL error: MESA-LOADER: failed to open radeonsi: /usr/lib/dri/radeonsi_dri.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory (search paths /usr/lib/dri, suffix _dri)
libGL error: failed to load driver: radeonsi
libGL error: MESA-LOADER: failed to open radeonsi: /usr/lib/dri/radeonsi_dri.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory (search paths /usr/lib/dri, suffix _dri)
libGL error: failed to load driver: radeonsi
libGL error: MESA-LOADER: failed to open swrast: /usr/lib/dri/swrast_dri.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory (search paths /usr/lib/dri, suffix _dri)
libGL error: failed to load driver: swrast
0178:err:wgl:X11DRV_WineGL_InitOpenglInfo couldn't initialize OpenGL, expect problems
"
...snip...
-----------------------------------------------------

From S15Pup32-22.12+2-T.iso

copied into directory in /mnt/home:

/usr/lib/dri/radeonsi_dri.so
/usr/lib/dri/swrast_dri.so
/usr/lib/libLLVM*

boot back into S15Pup64

copy/symlink those files into directories found in S15Pup32

Attempt to run game again, success.

[HerrBert]

Running s15pup64_22.12+3

Minor problems with input to report:
Option "XkbVariant" "nodeadkeys" is not persistent when set from xkbconfigmanager. After restarting X it doesn't work although it is present in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
Option "XkbOptions" "compose:sclk" can not be set from xkbconfigmanager. Error message is:

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/tmp/xkboptconfig11745: Zeile 20: Syntaxfehler beim unerwarteten Symbol »&«
/tmp/xkboptconfig11745: Zeile 20: `compose:102 "The "< >" key" \'
cancelled

Manually adding Option "XkbOptions" "compose:sclk" to /etc/X11/xorg.conf also doesn't work.

Running a script in /root/Startup as workaround:

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#!/bin/sh
sleep 1
setxkbmap -rules evdev -model pc104 -layout de -variant nodeadkeys -option terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp,compose:sclk

[OscarTalks]

Compiled from source in S15Pup, the small .pet packages below add an extra loader library for the webp image format to the gdk-pixbuf program.
This enables displaying of .webp image files in viewnior
S15Pup does ship with the vwebp exectuable as a viewer, but being able to use viewnior is better.

There is a thread about this here:-
viewtopic.php?t=8111
but I thought I would post these in this thread specifically for S15Pup users to test

The package contains an updated loaders.cache file and also has a post-install script which runs the cache update. I probably didn't need both, but I dont think it hurts.

The source is here:-
https://github.com/aruiz/webp-pixbuf-loader
Building requires meson and ninja which in turn also requires python3

[Marv]

@OscarTalks Thanks, the webp-pixbuf-loader-0.2.0-x86_64-s15p.pet works perfectly in my LXDE'd install of the current S15Pup64.

Edit: Also tested and working (as expected) in my install of LxPupSc64 23.01 +1d.

[fhwuxue]

Hi, good morning!
After installing VIM, RUBY was installed together. This is not what I want.
I wonder if it is BUG?

[bigpup]

How did you do the install of VIM?
Details????

[peebee]

Ruby is listed as a dependency of Vim:

http://ftp.nluug.nl/ftp/pub/os/Linux/di ... CKAGES.TXT

PACKAGE NAME: vim-8.2.4256-x86_64-1.txz
PACKAGE LOCATION: ./slackware64/ap
PACKAGE SIZE (compressed): 7796 K
PACKAGE SIZE (uncompressed): 37730 K
PACKAGE REQUIRED: aaa_libraries|acl,aaa_libraries|attr,aaa_libraries|gpm,aaa_libraries|ncurses,libsodium,ruby

[peebee]

extra loader library for the webp image format to the gdk-pixbuf program.

Hi OT - Salix provides webp-pixbuf-loader
https://slackware.pkgs.org/15.0/salix-x ... v.txz.html

so I could add that to the build......

Edit: new builds: https://github.com/peabee/releases/rele ... anded=true

[Fossil]

Downloaded webp-pixbuf-loader-0.2.0-i686-s15p.pet and installed to S15Pup32. I forgot that I'd installed GQview 2.0.4 to use as the primary picture browser. Webp images are displayed equally as well.