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Will this keyboard work with Puppy? (solved)

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FossaPup64 9.0.5.
Logitech k380. 2 Questions:
✦ Will the Bluetooth connect to, and work in this computer?
✦ Can I use it with FossaPup? Because I've watched videos about the keyboard ― where they show that there is a program where you change the settings; and maybe even that you need to change some settings. Where is this program from; is there a Linux version?

(edit: works with F96-CE 4)

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Re: Will this keyboard work with Puppy?

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I assume you are asking about fossapup64 9.5

If the computer has Bluetooth, it should work.

The Bluetooth connection software in fossapup64 9.5, is a little problematic, getting a connection.

But there are several topics on this forum, about getting Bluetooth working, and some offering better software to use.

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OK, in the computer description - there is Bluetooth.
About the software ― I was referring to the keyboard software. Here - click on "System Requirements" ― Linux isn't listed there.
In this video - he explains how to set the keyboard in Ubuntu. Do you think it will work in FossaPup - or should I not risk it, and find another keyboard? Just that it was recommended, and I started to fancy it, with its round keys and all :-P.

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@MrAccident

Bluez is the module that provides Bluetooth support.

I do not know which version is currently provided with Fossapup95. One of the development team should be able to tell you.

However, you can grab the source files from here if you wish to compile the latest build:

http://www.bluez.org/download/

I have limited success with Bluetooth connectivity with FP95. However, the latest incarnation of FP96 worked perfectly for me. There appears to be a new application that makes it easier to connect devices.

The screenshot is confirmation that BlueZ supports the newer Bluetooth Low Energy standard that your device has capabilities of.

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Re: Will this keyboard work with Puppy?

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Good info about trying to use Fp96 that is just about at release status.

Latest version is here:
viewtopic.php?t=7678

That supported operating system list not having Linux in it.
Probably has to do with any additional software for providing special features of the keyboard.
Special software they provide to run the keyboard.
They provide for about any other type operating system. :roll: and some are Linux based.
I guess they do not want to make a generic Linux software.

Still you would think a common keyboard setup would still work, which is probably what is being used in the video.
Set to use a generic keyboard layout in Puppy.

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What is FP96 ― the next version of FossaPup?
I'm about to install Puppy ― so should I install it? And there isn't a link, so where do I get it?

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Re: Will this keyboard work with Puppy?

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@MrAccident F96 is a Fossapup64 built with woof-CE then collaborated on to tune and improve it. In principle F96_4-CE_radky6 is an advanced Fossapup64 and can be installed the same way

Here the latest ISO can be downloaded from -> https://www.smokey01.com/radky/Testing/ ... radky6.iso

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@rockedge - thanks, I will install it.

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Re: Will this keyboard work with Puppy?

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@MrAccident :-

One piece of advice I will give you. Whenever you're checking "Requirements" & "Specifications", 9 times out of 10 you are only ever going to see Windows and MacOS mentioned. These two systems are maintained and produced by big-name companies who are in this game purely and simply for one thing.....to make a profit.

Many people tend to assume that a thing is only worth using if it has to be paid for. And if one thing is more expensive than another, that the more expensive thing MUST, automatically, be "better".

The open-source Linux community generally works on what it wants to, when it wants to, and usually gives the results away for free. So it's regarded by many as not being worth bothering with.....because it doesn't generate large amounts of capital.....and is regarded as being "second-class" by these same individuals. Capitalism rules our lives in the Western world, and everything is judged on what somebody is prepared to pay for it.

Just because you don't see 'Linux' listed in black & white alongside 'Windoze' and 'Crapple', it doesn't mean that the software/hardware in question won't work with Linux. Almost always either a newer kernel provides support OOTB, OR there's a 'workaround' of some kind that's well enough known to be usable. But you never see this advertised.

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Almost ALL USB keyboards/mice/HID ("human interface devices") work OOTB. USB support has been in the kernel almost since Noah built the Ark.

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@mikewalsh - thanks. It's just that I'll buy it... like with money! :-D I thought it'll work basically. But also - someone wrote in an AliExpress review ― that some keys don't correspond to the letters on them (which they could change in the program, but didn't know). I ordered it - so hopefully it will work.

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Re: Will this keyboard work with Puppy?

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@MrAccident :-

Well, if it's Logitech, I don't see it giving you any problems. I've been using their gear for years; keyboards, mice, webcams.....you name it. I cannot remember buying anything of theirs and NOT having it just "work", OOTB.

Keyboards/mice.....pretty fool-proof. Admittedly, my Master 2S mouse was only giving basic functionality until I got Solaar working in Fossapup64 a couple of days ago (Solaar is like the Linux, open-source equivalent of Logitech's own, rather bloated Windows specialist software package for the 'Master' series of mice.....written in Python). Now I can pair multiple devices to a single 'Unifying' dongle, make all sorts of adjustments, etc, etc. The current version is way more functional than an early version I had working under Xenialpup64 a few years back, and offers many more adjustments. Instead of building adjustments, buttons, controls, etc, into the mouse itself, Logitech have always preferred to make adjustments in software instead. Great idea, sure.....but a crap one if you can't access said software. Which I now can! :D

Their keyboards have never given me any trouble at all.

Webcams take a bit more research; even today, not every Logitech sensor/chipset combo works with the kernel. In the case of the c920 HD 'Pro', it's supported by the UVC (USB Video Class) driver OOTB, which has been in the kernel for ages. I'd been after one of these for 8 or 9 years (yes, it's been around for that long), but initially they were up in 3-figure plus territory.....way out of my reach. 4 years ago, I found them on sale in our local PCWorld for £39.99 on Black Friday.....clearing out old stock to make way for the hyper-pricy 'Brio' range (which I'm not impressed by). So I grabbed one; and I haven't been disappointed. It's a damn good 'cam. So good, in fact, that I've just treated myself to a second one for the recently-acquired Dell Latitude lappie..!

Nah, Logitech gear is alright in my book. Even under Linux, it works well.

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