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Noisy solid state drive

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Wasn't sure where to put this, Feel free to move it.
I recently had issues with my crucial m4 drive and the 5000 hour issue in the firmware.
Ever since I updated the firmware, when I start the computer it makes a strange sound for about 10 minutes. Kind of a whistling, rapid clicking sound. It is reminiscent to a later dial up modem only faster.

I am installed frugal and run in ram and I see no activity on the drive while this is happening.

Has anyone else heard noise from a solid state drive? It sounds just like this one in this video although mine is an internal sata drive.

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Re: Noisy solid state drive

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never had a noisy ssd drive
no moving parts, check mounting screws, maybe try a different cable
i suppose a bad capacitor could make noise but i think its all tiny surface mount components that dont have much smoke to let out

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Re: Noisy solid state drive

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I guess it is time to tear it down again and give it another once over. Might see if I can find a better graphics card before I open it up and do that at the same time.
Interesting it was real quiet until I upgraded the firmware on the drive.

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Re: Noisy solid state drive

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Try running it with the cover off the computer.

Maybe you can tell better where it is coming from.

Kind of a whistling, rapid clicking sound.

Check any cooling fans.
Maybe something with the sound device or speakers.
A loose connection someplace.
Make sure nothing metal has fallen inside the computer, sitting on the motherboard, or across a connection point.

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@bigpup Thanks, I have had it apart and cleaned everything. Might very well be one of the cheap cables I bought with the drive adapters. Sometimes I am a bit stingy for a good reason. Most of the time it is because it is all I can afford the part, but the one I buy has great reviews. :D I have less than $120 into this recycled computer and a lot of that was the computer case. $20 and a 50 minute drive. The rest of the parts were gifted to me from a good friend.

I bought standoffs for the mobo and some connectors and adapters and it has served me well for several years. The biggest investment was a EVGA 500w white label PSU. Most of the rest was donated or scavenged from the pile of old client computers I have been slowly recycling, (although around here recycling costs money too).

My friend is a "Gamer" and most of this, including the hard drive, came out of one of his old systems. He quit using it when the Ethernet controller (on the motherboard) died in win 10, and I am still using that the same ssd he had in it. It has been formatted and replaced with Puppy. Other than the early 90s full tower case and the PSU, I am still using most of his old hardware.

I figure it is time for a tear-down and check from the build up. as soon as I can have a day inside it will get a good tear-down, cleaning and reassemble.

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Check that you aren't getting an odd sourced feedback from mic and speakers. Never heard of a solid state drive making noise.

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If it does have a hard drive, make sure that is not what is making the sound.

Can do the old method of having just enough to start the computer.
Hook up one component at a time, until the last one hooked up is the one making this sound.

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I am also thinking I heard this sound in a computer years ago, (win95 ish) yes sometimes my brain still works ;) It had a bad capacitor on the motherboard and on occasion would not boot.
This one quiets down after about 15 minutes uptime. It may well be that it has to do with the temperature since we keep it rather cool in the house this time of year.
Current cpu temp 21c.
The next rainy day I will see what I can find.

Both drives are ssd sata. I didn't notice the noise when I booted to Tahr on the second drive,(From my old computer).

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I mentioned the feedback issue because my wife had that problem on her laptop when she tried to close the lid under Tahr. It wouldn't also suspend. For some reason there was an audio feedback loop generated from the internal speaker producing a weird squeal when closing.

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Re: Noisy solid state drive

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@peppyy :-

Interesting mention you make of the CPU temp!

When I was still running the old Compaq rig, during the autumn/winter the CPU temps - with pmcputemp - were always on the low side. The lowest I've seen the dual-core Athlon64 X2 display was a very chilly 19°C...

It's amusing to me, 'cos in both cases - my old rig, and your current rig- we're talking about AMD CPUs. And from as far back as I can remember (not withstanding the brand-new Ryzens) everybody always used to reckon that AMDs ran hot.

To this day, I've never seen it!

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@vtpup I used to have a pile of old Thinkpads when I started using Puppy. I too had that on one of them that wouldn't suspend correctly. Turned out it was a bad lid switch. I tore it down and there was a tiny piece of plastic that had broken. Glued it back in place and it worked great.

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@bigpup The hottest I have seen this one was 56c. That was crunching a long video with Openshot. The only other time it got hot was with the palemoon 30.00 issue. Within a minute of launching it the fans were all running full speed but it still didn't get into the red. I can remember a p4 I had that would overheat terribly. Bought the best thermal paste and heat sink I could find and I could run it, but it still ran too hot.

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Re: Noisy solid state drive

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@peppyy :-

Heh. P4s were in a class of their own. They seemed to thrive on heat.....the darned things were near-as-dammit indestructible. The only situation where you could kill one was through repeated, long-term overclocking.

From Wikipedia's Pentium 4 article, sub-section 'Northwood':-

"Overclocking early stepping Northwood cores yielded a startling phenomenon. While core voltage approaching 1.7 V and above would often allow substantial additional gains in overclocking headroom, the processor would slowly (over several months or even weeks) become more unstable over time with a degradation in maximum stable clock speed before dying and becoming totally unusable. This became known as Sudden Northwood Death Syndrome (SNDS), which was caused by electromigration."

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