Friendly Bionic 32 - LibreOffice install not working?

[Grogster]

Hi all.

friendly-bionic32-rc3 iso.

Install to flash drive, create 512MB save-file, reboot.

MENU/DOCUMENT/Get LibreOffice download and Install LibreOffice

Select that, click on the OK button, but then nothing happens.
No browser windows open, nothing.

I seem to recall that member wizard is maintaining this version at the moment, so hopefully he will see this and respond?

EDIT: Oh, BTW, YES - this Puppy has access to the Internet - I can use the BROWSE icon on the desktop to go to websites, so it can "See" the WAN.
EDIT: I mean Firefox in FB32, sorry, but yeah, the Internet is working fine, so one would think that the menu option should work, yes?

[one]

Hi all.

friendly-bionic32-rc3 iso.

Install to flash drive, create 512MB save-file, reboot.

MENU/DOCUMENT/Get LibreOffice download and Install LibreOffice

Select that, click on the OK button, but then nothing happens.
No browser windows open, nothing.
[...]

I don't know why the browser doesn't open - but @wizard will tell you.

In the meantime:
These are the links the yellow info-window should point you to:

- the LibreOffice thread on the forum (choose a -32 variant)
https://forum.puppylinux.com/viewtopic.php?f=96&t=404

- the Slackware repository belonging to AlienBob
http://www.slackware.com/~alien/slackbu ... /pkg/14.2/

Choose a -32 bit variant.

Downloadsize is ~200 MB ...

peace

[wizard]

@Grogster

MENU/DOCUMENT/Get LibreOffice download and Install LibreOffice

Unfortunately, that is not code I wrote and was in the original release by Bionic32 developer @peebee. In any event, the links given by @one will provide versions that work.

Thanks
wizard

[bigpup]

I would check to see what is selected as the default browser.
Make sure it is a browser that is installed.

That Get LibreOffice program is most likely coded to run the default browser.

Looking in the Friendly Bionic32 ISO
usr/loca/bin
The defaultbrowser file is set for using the light browser.

Code: Select all

#!/bin/sh
exec light "$@"

[mikeslr]

"Install to flash drive, create 512MB save-file...Install LibreOffice...nothing happens."

If you installed a pet its compressed download size was likely almost 300 Mb. Your SaveFile is decompressed and installation of packages expand between 2 and 3 times. You can't obtain a working application that way.
If you mean that you downloaded and then SFS-loaded a LibreOffice SFS, my experience is that, regretfully, these are sometime built without menu entries. You can create menu entries by dragging the desktop files found at /opt/libreoffice.XXX/share/xdg into /usr/share/applications and selecting Link(relative). Remember to Save. But IIRC, not all libreoffice modules will appear in JWM's Menu-Subcategories where you expect them to be. I had to edit the 'Category' designations on the desktop files in .../xdg.

[wizard]

@Grogster

@bigpup has the answer. The original default browser was Light, but it was removed to reduce the ISO size. I failed to update the default browser (will correct in next release). You can set it by:
-Menu>Setup>Default Application Chooser>All
-in the Web browser box type: /usr/local/firefox/firefox32/ff
-click: Apply

Thanks
wizard

[bigpup]

I am now 1 for 10.
I am going to ruin my reputation !

I strongly suggest you make the save file bigger.
3 or 4 GB size is good.
Anything you actually install has to go into it.
Software now, is not very small in size, unless it is very simple basic stuff.

[Grogster]

Thank you for all the replies.

I will use the links.
I might also edit the script to the default browser as shown, just for some practice for me to do that kind of thing to see if it fixes the original menu entry - for no other reason then to just practice some editing of stuff to make something work. I need to do plenty of that to get better at working with the guts of Puppy.

I will also increase the savefile size to about 3-4GB as mentioned. I figured 512MB would probably be pushing it to add LibreOffice, but I had not got that far as the browser windows would not open, but I expect I would have found that out next, so I will make it much bigger now before I try.

[bigpup]

You can select to put stuff outside of the save.
Downloads, videos, images, documents, backup copies, etc......

Good location is /mnt/home It is outside of the save.
Actually it is the top layer of the partition the save file/folder is located.
you can even make different directories in /mnt/home to separate stuff into different locations.

Settings, configurations, and anything actually installed, has to be in the save.

[amethyst]

Instead of installing stuff use sfs extra files or portables instead. This way your savefile will not grow to ridiculous sizes (because it will not be included in your savefile). I don't use a savefile at all, haven't been doing so for donkey years. However, no problem using a savefile but my recommendation is to keep it extremely small and only use it to save small system configuration changes. A huge savefile does not make sense to me at all.

[Grogster]

Instead of installing stuff use sfs extra files or portables instead. This way your savefile will not grow to ridiculous sizes (because it will not be included in your savefile). I don't use a savefile at all, haven't been doing so for donkey years. However, no problem using a savefile but my recommendation is to keep it extremely small and only use it to save small system configuration changes. A huge savefile does not make sense to me at all.

Sounds perfect. Can you elaborate on how you do this?
The first thought that comes to mind, is how do you tell Puppy which sfs file to use at bootup.
I expect there is a reasonably painless way to do this, but I've never done it, so I would need to read how to do it.
If you have any threads you can link to I could read, that would be fab.
I would also need to know HOW you go about creating the sfs file(s) for puppy to use.
Normally, I just use the default settings, and other then creating a savefile, I have never played with different sfs files, so would need a little guidance there.

With my SAMBA server puppy machines, I only use a 64MB or 128MB savefile for EXACTLY the reasons you just indicated - just to save the network and system configuration information, nothing else.

[amethyst]

The first thought that comes to mind, is how do you tell Puppy which sfs file to use at bootup.

If you have an existing savefile, all loaded extra sfs files will be remembered and automatically be loaded at next bootup if I remember correctly. I don't use a savefile at all but save my small system configuration settings to an adrv. I load the extra sfs's I want to be loaded automatically by making entries in the /etc/rc.d/rc.local file like this for example: sfs_load -c -q LocationAndNameOfSfsFile. You can use Packit or one of my tools to create an sfs file. If you have a 'pet or other packaged file, you can extract the contents with Uextract and re-package the contents as an sfs file.

[bigpup]

In a normal Puppy frugal or live install, using a save.

There are two types of SFS package files.

The SFS files that makeup the actual Puppy version.
Those are the Puppy version operating system.
The boot process controls them.

The other type of SFS package files are actual programs that have been packaged as a SFS file.
Everything for the program is in the SFS file.
Those you can load or unload into the operating file system.
When loaded they act as if you installed the program into the file system.
When unloaded they are completely removed from the operating system.
It is a way to use a program without actually installing it.

Best location to place a program SFS package file is:
/mnt/home
That location is outside of the save and completely outside of the operating file system.
so, it is easy to load or unload it.

You use the program menu -> Setup -> SFS-load-on-the-fly to load and unload program sfs packaged files.
When selected to load a SFS, it stays saved in the loaded list.
When you have made a save and are booted using the save.
The loaded SFS files are remembered and loaded, as part of the boot up process.

[bigpup]

There are a lot of good information topics in the forum section:
Getting Started and System Requirements
https://forum.puppylinux.com/viewforum.php?f=184

[mikeslr]

Just following up on amethyst's suggestion. Although this post was written for a user of Fossapup who only had room for a 55 MB SaveFile, the technique spelled out there can be used with all Puppys: https://forum.puppylinux.com/viewtopic. ... 340#p43296

Unlike Sam Hobbs, you can locate the folder for storing data --I referred to it as 'my-stuff'-- on your home partition [/mnt/home AKA dev_save] and don't need the application, Startmount, to automatically mount any other partition.